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by 233 · September 16, 2014 at 8:13 PM

For shits n gigs, I'm watching 'How Beer Saved the World' and although filled with shaky claims IMO, I think their theory on the origin of agriculture has some merit. After all, why else go through tons of processing in order to make grains... (more)

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Anon_9 0 · August 23, 2013 at 6:35 PM

It actually has some merit. I think I read that the earliest piece of writing is a recipe for beer from the ancient Sumerians. The Egyptians paid a lot of the pyramid builders in beer as well. For a long time, beer was a source of liquid that... (more)

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by 35 · September 16, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Something that has been baffling me, are there instances of religion, literature, or just general historical records of where people have warned against the effects of grains/wheat? You would think in the last 10,000 years many people would have... (more)

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Canis_Minor 0 · November 27, 2012 at 8:00 PM

At the risk of stating the obvious, agrarian culture made larger populations possible.

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by 78417 · September 16, 2014 at 7:51 PM

Agriculture stopped physical peak evolution. Most men today look feminine and soft and have significantly less testosterone and muscle mass than men of previous generations amd it seems to get worse with time. Also most people nowadays are... (more)

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Acumen_Athletics 0 · August 06, 2012 at 1:38 AM

You don't say? What's going to happen to my little swimmers when verticale farming kicks in?

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by 5828 · September 16, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Chris Kresser published a podcast and transcript yesterday of an interview with Mat Lalonde. The theme of the interview was "What Science Really Says About the Paleo Diet." Now, I'm not one to get caught up in the science of paleo. I do paleo... (more)

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interrobung 0 · June 14, 2012 at 1:33 PM

By definition, a species cannot adapt to something to which they've never been exposed. pre-existing favorable conditions in a species, upon exposure to new stimuli, are called exaptations. But Lalonde's point is still salient: there are... (more)

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by 0 · September 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM

i am a student doing doing agricultural economics and development internship , i was informed to submit my reseaerch topics i was looking for topics related to environmental management or macroeconomic policie or development strategies.

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by 169 · September 16, 2014 at 7:43 PM

I'm wondering what the best scientific resources are that relate to the paleo diet. There is a lot of money that big agra risks losing and I feat it won't be long before they go full force on the smear train. I for one would like us to be highly... (more)

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Aglaee_the_Paleo_RD 0 · April 14, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Here are a few scientific papers supporting the Paleo diet: A Palaeolithic diet improves glucose tolerance more than a Mediterranean-like diet; Diabetologia; Linderberg et al; 2007... (more)

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by 11142 · September 16, 2014 at 7:42 PM

Inspired by the other thread I started, Have any other Paleo women opted to go bra-free? it made me wonder if unmanageably large breasts which are fairly common these days are a result of natural selection/preference in an agricultural-based... (more)

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by 8979 · September 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM

I was surprised that he was featuring Joel Salatin so much. While there is an almost-worship of grass-fed meats around here, there seems to be little talk or interest in how we actually pull that off. Where I come from, Joel Salatin is just old... (more)

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Hurricane 0 · September 05, 2011 at 3:28 AM

I for one think it's nice to see him bringing up people who have done a lot to move grass-fed beef into the limelight. I can't even imagine if I had tried to go paleo 10 years ago what the market for grass fed meat would of been. Salatin has... (more)

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by 230 · September 16, 2014 at 7:28 PM

I was asked this question at a cookout last weekend, and I think I answered it with a few good points, but would like to hear how everyone else would respond? In 2 million years + of evolution, we were still living in caves. In a blip on the... (more)

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Householder 0 · August 23, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Well grains and agriculture may have been harmful to the individual human when it comes to long term health and longevity, but the truth is it was vital to the explosion we experienced as species. It allowed us to live in concentrated areas... (more)

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by 78417 · September 16, 2014 at 7:27 PM

when discussing paleo with vegan/vegetarian friends, they always retorted with the claim that aztecs/mayans thrived on grains yet were successful. "The Aztecs, coming south from the deserts of New Mexico, had in the 14th century occupied sites in... (more)

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UncleLongHair 0 · August 11, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Oats were a staple of some primitive cultures in Scotland, and rye grain was a staple of some primitive cultures in the Swiss Alps. Both cultures were studied by Weston Price and he found their health to be excellent, in fact these and other... (more)

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by 78417 · September 16, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Possible Duplicate: How environmentally responsible/green and sustainable is the paleo diet? How is paleo better for the environment,agriculture and animals? (more)

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Dragonfly 0 · August 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Read Lierre Keith's book, The Vegetarian Myth. She lays out a pretty good argument for sustainable, animal-based agriculture.

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by 2825 · September 16, 2014 at 7:26 PM

I'm really into the nature-respecting aspects of this lifestyle. Part of "The Vegetarian Myth," details how life cycles are vital for good soil cultivation - bones return to the earth, break down and feed plants, essentially. As I bagged up a pile... (more)

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Happy_Now 0 · July 25, 2011 at 8:44 PM

We're lucky enough in Seattle to have a curbside compost program that includes animal products. No liquids though, so if I have old stock I mix that in with a big pile of soil out back or toss it out on the lawn and water it in.

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by 2977 · September 16, 2014 at 7:26 PM

OK, I know this can be a controversial topic, but I think it's very relevant to the whole idea of "Paleo". Because of reading about food I've been reading about food politics (e.g., the role of agriculture in the development of hierarchical and... (more)

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dzone 0 · July 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Caverat - paleo hasn't swayed my political thinking as I've always been a Marxist. I've also been an anti-corporatist since forever. The problem as you suggest, is that our politics has fallen to the evils of sound bites. Our people no longer have... (more)

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by 75 · September 16, 2014 at 7:23 PM

I'm fairly new to the paleo lifestyle and I am loving every second of it. But there's a problem that has been nagging at my conscious and it has been a constant point of contention when discussing my new lifestyle with friends and family. As... (more)

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FED_at_LiveCaveman_com 0 · May 31, 2011 at 10:15 PM

Acre for acre, monocultures of soy, wheat, corn, canola, coffee, etc. are more damaging to topsoil which leads to erosion and desertification, more dependent on the use pesticides/herbicides/fertilizers, and likely to be GMO. Of course, CAFO... (more)

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by 78417 · September 16, 2014 at 7:21 PM

"No species on Earth drinks the milk from another species, except humans (of some agrarian cultures). How did humans survive, even stronger and healthier, before the agrarian revolution?" I just read this. And asked myself, is this true? I know... (more)

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Jack_Kronk 0 · April 12, 2011 at 8:15 PM

If another species had the intelligence to obtain the milk from another animal, they might do it too. The fact is that humans are able to milk other animals and many humans are well nourished by cows' and goats' milk and their by products like... (more)

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by 531 · September 16, 2014 at 7:18 PM

I've been trying for years to tweak my diet to one that fits my ancestry, personal body, is ethical to me, and leaves me feeling healthy. I'm still not there. Much better though than as a kid, where I spent my first fourteen years either going... (more)

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Wozza 0 · February 06, 2011 at 2:59 AM

Just focus on the things you can control. Worrying about things you can't control will stress you into an early grave.

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by 670 · September 16, 2014 at 7:18 PM

http://www.foodtimeline.org/ According to this list, before agriculture, our only sources of animal protein were eggs, fish and insects. Where the heck are the brains and marrow we were supposedly scavenging that helped us become smarter... (more)

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wjones3044 0 · February 02, 2011 at 6:33 PM

According to this narrative, from the same site, there is a reference to pork, venison, mammoth... http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodfaq3.html#firstcooks Seems the top of the timeline has a lot less detail... (more)

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by 826 · September 16, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Undoubtedly everyone is aware of the food shortages around the world that have sparked violence recently. This is not meant to be a political question. I find it interesting and wonder how some of us would survive without our staples... (more)

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James_3 0 · January 18, 2011 at 6:51 AM

It's definitely a concern to me, and I actually think we're more susceptible to the shortages than the regular person (since we have particular things we want). It all leads back to the sustainability of the Paleo diet for the general population.... (more)

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by 10768 · September 16, 2014 at 7:17 PM

http://www.utne.com/Wild-Green/Cows-Eat-Grass-and-Other-Inflammatory-Statements.aspx Apparently, his cow comment came back to haunt him: The remark that may have sunk Mr. Salvador???s candidacy came 37 minutes into his on-campus... (more)

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Lindsay 0 · February 25, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Best milk in Iowa? Radiance Dairy in Fairfield. Grass fed organic Jersey Cows.

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by 3509 · September 16, 2014 at 7:17 PM

In the last ten years some amazing discoveries have taken place in western Turkey at an archaeological site called Gobekli Tepe: Some twelve thousands years ago tribes of hunter-gatherers created great monuments and villages, and then, over the... (more)

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Dave_S_ 0 · January 13, 2011 at 12:09 AM

I stand by the alcohol argument. The only reason to submit to the pain of agriculture was to have a steady supply of alcoholic beverages. Could also be related to the great megafauna extinction event that occured 12,900 years ago. Nope.... (more)

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by 20411 · September 16, 2014 at 7:16 PM

Just ran across this post by Dr. Art Ayers of Cooling Inflammation: http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/2008/12/paleolithic-perspective-on-biomedical.html "Agriculture focused on seed harvest results in a dramatic shift in diet and disease.... (more)

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Eva 0 · November 26, 2010 at 5:04 PM

The thing is, the people I know with inflammation problems do NOT have good immunity. They are sick people who get even sicker easily. The body has many lines of defense that do not require high levels of inflammation. Personally, I think the... (more)

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by 11478 · September 16, 2014 at 7:15 PM

British scientists have found that cancer is nearly non-existant in Egyptian mummies ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1320507/Cancer-purely-man-say-scientists-finding-trace-disease-Egyptian-mummies.html ). They conclude that... (more)

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Jay_9 0 · October 15, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Limiting omega 6s to about 4% of calories may prevent 90% of cancers. See this randomized trial (Lyon diet) which basically found 90% reductions in cancer (after the first 2 years) among those eating a 4% PUFA diet as compared to controls on the... (more)

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by 56596 · September 16, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Evolution didn't just stop with the invention of agriculture. Genetics have changed and there have been some genetic changes in response to agrarian foods. These genetic changes generally only affect a certain percentage of the population, often... (more)

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Paul_1 0 · September 27, 2010 at 7:59 PM

I've been looking back through a lot of Stephan's older posts, and there's some really great stuff. Not that we didn't know that already. But I came across a nice post, short and sweet, "Grains and Human Evolution", which makes two important... (more)

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by 1288 · September 16, 2014 at 7:15 PM

For the last 15 years or so Doctors, Dietitians - fitness trainers and the like have pushed a low fat high carb diet onto everyone and I fell for it hook line and sinker - only to develop insulin resistance and become overweight- when before I was... (more)

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Stephen_Aegis 0 · September 17, 2010 at 10:42 AM

It will simply slowly morph into accurate information Oh, not all fat is bad, trans fat is the real culprit We found THESE carbs are bad By the way, we found another good fat... Oh look, NON processed red meat IS good, it's the processing that... (more)

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by 2312 · September 16, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Has anyone been reading/watching what Monsanto is trying to do with our food supply? They already have patents on most of the world's soy supply. Most seeds used today also have patents on them? Is there really any food that we eat today that... (more)

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Louisa 0 · April 08, 2010 at 7:16 PM

What can we do about it? Eat paleo and support local farmers for pastured meat, organic vegetables and fruit and cut down on buying food that comes from large agro-companies..... The paleo diet automatically cuts out most things like grains,... (more)