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baking soda ph, etc.

by 77322 · April 10, 2013 at 05:15 AM

Hi all, I am wondering why baking soda has apparently been the cause of fatigue and lassitude I've been experiencing lately. I had decided to use it as a toothpaste substitute as I can't purchase any of the "special" toothpastes(such as TOm's of maine, etc.) where I am currently located. Does anyone have any HANDY recomendations for alternatives to the sodium fluoride laced poison masquerading as toothpaste in most drug stores? The fatigue I've been experiencing has been difficult to overcome and the flatulence is another unpleasant side-effect. Perhaps there is another cause of the fatigue but nothing has changed in diet or lifestyle since making this change and the fatigue followed the inclusion of the baking soda. PLease advise.*

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77322 · June 21, 2011 at 09:27 PM

I am having a difficult time believing that baking soda is the source of your malaise. As far as fatigue is concerned, it should have the opposite effect. It bestows energy and helps clear out lactic acid. Of course, everyone is different.

The only reason I can imagine that it would cause flatulence is if you drank baking soda too close to meal time (in which case it would reduce stomach acid and impair digestion).

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6332 · June 21, 2011 at 09:17 PM

My advice? Spit out the baking soda and rinse your mouth thoroughly.

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2297 · June 22, 2011 at 12:10 AM

Calcium release rates from tooth enamel treated with dentifrices containing whitening agents and abrasives. Gen Dent. 2010 Nov-Dec;58(6):e240-5.'

Tooth whitening agents containing hydrogen peroxide and carbamide peroxide are used frequently in esthetic dental procedures. However, lesions on the enamel surface have been attributed to the action of these products. Using conventional procedures for separating and isolating biological structures, powdered enamel was obtained and treated with hydrogen peroxide, carbamide peroxide, and sodium bicarbonate, ingredients typically found in dentifrices. The enamel was exposed to different pH levels, and atomic emission spectrometry was used to determine calcium release rates. As the pH level increased, the rate of calcium release from enamel treated with dentifrices containing whitening agents decreased. Carbamide peroxide produced the lowest amount of decalcification, while sodium bicarbonate produced the highest release rates at all pH levels.

PMID: 21062707

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448 · June 21, 2011 at 10:09 PM

You're now swallowing the baking soda, are you? As with normal toothpaste, you're just supposed to clean your mouth with it, then spit it out and rinse out your mouth thoroughly. Little to none should actually enter your system. Maybe some extra rinses would help you.

Are there any other external factors that could be causing the fatigue and flatulence? A different brand of a food you regularly eat, perhaps?

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10149 · June 21, 2011 at 10:39 PM

i have a water pic. it only needs water and i brush the gums/tongue/roof :)

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0 · April 10, 2013 at 05:15 AM

I really doubt that baking soda can harm enamel via pH. You might have an argument for abrasiveness, but I doubt the pH is going to be a problem. We're talking baking soda, not lye. You can drink baking soda water. You can put it on your skin. It's not an extreme alkali like lye. If you're worried, just use it a couple days a week, alternating with toothpaste.

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331 · June 22, 2011 at 01:54 PM

I personally don't use anything to brush my teeth. I remember reading around somewhere and seeing that it was the ACT of flossing and brushing that cleaned teeth, not the paste/whatever you use. This makes sense to me, as traditional cultures would just chew on fibrous plant materials to clean their teeth. So twice a day I floss and brush my teeth with nothing but water. Once a week I swish coconut oil around my mouth for 15 minutes or so, then spit the stuff out. You'll see the oil turn all murky, remember not to swallow this because it's full of bacteria you don't want in your system. I hear red palm oil's good for this too, but I'm not too keen on the taste.

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2297 · June 22, 2011 at 12:12 AM

if you are extremely sensitive to gluten, baking soda could be causing you problems. See glutenzap for details

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