Blood tests, Paleo indicators

by (65) Updated May 26, 2010 at 2:37 AM Created February 14, 2010 at 9:14 PM

To build on the great answers to the blood tests question:

What results/metrics per test indicate that one is in the evolutionary metabolic milieu as described by Dr. Harris? For example, "Test X - desired result is Y - higher/lower is better."

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1205 · March 06, 2010 at 4:08 AM

No, Dr. Harris thinks that LDL is generally useless: ) I only recommend NMR to reassure those on high fat diets that they have low sdLDL and lower particle numbers than direct or calculated LDL would predict. The best alternative is no "lipid" testing at all.

I don't believe in the lipid hypothesis in any of its variants. Incidentally, lowering your measured LDL to 60 is impossible on a high fat diet without poisoning your cholesterol metabolism with statins.

261 · February 16, 2010 at 9:28 PM

I think Dr Kurt recommends these tests as the best panel. What the good numbers are, I don't know. It might be hard to get them if you don't schedule them yourself. After all, you are just a data point between your doctor and the insurance company. I'm sure your doctor wouldn't mind if you got healthy, but that's of secondary concern.

  • NMR lipoprofile
  • Fasting insulin and blood glucose
  • HbA1c
  • TSH
  • fT3
  • fT4
  • 25 OH D3

1576 · May 25, 2010 at 2:19 AM

I have been getting my blood tested approximately every six weeks since adopting PaNu.

The next time I do bloodwork, I plan to order:

  • Cholesterol, lipids, and NMR lipoprofile
  • Fasting insulin and blood glucose
  • HbA1c
  • Thyroid panel with TSH, T3, T4
  • Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy
  • C-Reactive Protein

I don't get these tests through a doctor; I use directlabs.com.


Unfortunately the website doesn't support direct links so I can't link to specific tests. Their monthly specials change all the time so I tend to end up lashing together various combos to give me what I want.

After a few months, I plan to publish my numbers on some dataviz site.

If other people were willing to share their results, we might build shambling momentum towards a sort of Clinical Trials 2.0 concept.

2684 · February 16, 2010 at 4:09 AM

Dr. Davis's "Rule of 60" uses the following:

  • HDL at 60 mg/dl or above
  • Triglycerides at 60 mg/dl or below
  • LDL at 60 mg/dl or below

Since we know now that LDL has many subtypes (some bad, some neutral), the LDL number is somewhat less useful diagnostically. Based on this, I would use just the HDL at or above 60 mg/dl and triglycerides at or below 60 mg/dl as good indicators. Alternatively, if the triglycerides over HDL ratio is at 1 or below, it's a good indicator that you're doing Paleo right.

10 · February 16, 2010 at 9:53 PM

The "Rule of 60" is from Dr. William Davis.

Dr. Kurt Harris does think that LDL is of value (as measured by the standard lipid profile as opposed to an NMR). He does think that the triglyceride/HDL ratio has some value as a marker.

5916 · February 14, 2010 at 10:34 PM

From my recent physical examination and blood tests, it was indicated that:

For fasting glucose levels, a range of 65-99 mg/dL is normal. For Vitamin D levels, a range of 32-100 ng/mL is normal.

My results indicated that my fasting glucose level was at 81, and my Vitamin D was at 30.3

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