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by 0 · September 06, 2013 at 10:03 AM

hi, i'm from Malaysia and started going paleo. However, the problem is, i can't find any grass-fed cows' fat, bones, organs. The only grass-fed beef here is lean meat, no fats whatsoever. This is because the meat is imported, so i guess they only... (more)

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by 1365 · August 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Main Question: Anyone switch from grain to grass-fed meat and notice big health benefits? Why I am asking: Been "paleo" for going on 3 years, finally can afford it and considering the switch. Will cost another 2000+/year for my situation (I've... (more)

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Justin_16 0 · March 17, 2013 at 4:31 PM

$2000... are you crazy... do you feed a family of 12 or something?

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by 2272 · March 13, 2013 at 10:30 PM

If I am out to eat and I am choosing between conventional chicken eggs or conventional chicken breast as my protein, which would contain less "bad stuff" from conventional feeding, raising, etc? I am thinking a white meat chicken breast would be... (more)

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by 2909 · December 01, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Generally the farms where the farmers are killing their own stuff, are the grass-fed, organic pastures, yuppie-loved farmers. Does the traditional, agricultural CAFO farming model kill more animals than the grass-fed, organic meat industry? In... (more)

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CD 0 · December 01, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Does Cafo? Of course, the vast majority of meat on the market is not grass fed or organic. Raw numbers don't prove anything. You'd have to build a bayesian belief net to properly calculate expected value of both.

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by 2036 · September 28, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Thankfully I don't have to make this sort of decision, but I know many people whose resources for meat are limited to the local Walmart. In this particular store, the options are limited to beef, pork, chicken, turkey, and fish. All CAFO, and no... (more)

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Jay_15 0 · September 26, 2012 at 11:07 PM

WalMart has liver so I'm going to over rule your no offal rule ;)......Liver. The toxic load is no more (or barely more) than what is found in other areas of the animal, but with a substantially larger dose of beneficial nutrients. If not that... (more)

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by 292 · October 29, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Frankensteer (2005) is a documentary about the Canadian beef industry that I discovered last night on Netflix. It's truly disturbing. It discusses the use of hormones and antibiotics in cattle, and even gets into some of the government debates... (more)

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Matt_11 0 · October 29, 2012 at 10:55 AM

I watched it a while back. And the focus is only growth hormones, interesting that they demonized them so much. I know there was a talk at AHS'12 that put residual hormones in meat into perspective with endogenous hormone production, that makes me... (more)

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by 2423 · December 31, 2012 at 12:17 AM

I live in Cincinnati, OH and it's really hard to find grassfed beef around here unless you are a CSA member. Whole Foods here does have grassfed beef, but I am looking for something more local. I was at a local meat market today and they were... (more)

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SarahH 0 · May 06, 2012 at 1:12 AM

I raise my own rabbits, and most feeds found at farming/feed stores are primarily hay (and some grains/veggies). Rabbits do have fat, but it's on the skin. You'd have to request that and render it for food usage. My rabbits are on an organic... (more)

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by 1614 · April 26, 2012 at 9:37 PM

I'm pondering the health pros and cons of either 1) paleo with conventional meat/farmed fish, or 2) vegetarianism that excludes grains/seed oils/processed foods but includes traditionally prepared legumes, pastured eggs, and organic dairy... (more)

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Mscott 0 · April 26, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Eating 2 pounds of beef will probably provide you about 2500 calories (assuming it's particularly fatty). The 14 eggs will give you about 1000 calories. Thats 3500 calories, which is 500 calories a day per week. 36 grams of protein and 500... (more)

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by 20 · March 28, 2012 at 12:06 PM

I've been doing paleo for a few months now and cut out all grains, dairy, sugar, junk oils and have seen HUGE improvements in my skin, health, hair etc. But I still have been eating the supermarket grain fed hormone beef. ( all I can get at the... (more)

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Aglaee_the_Paleo_RD 0 · March 28, 2012 at 10:42 AM

If you buy meat from the supermarket, it is important that you choose lean cuts to decrease your omega-6 intake as much as possible. Even if your ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 may be good by taking in lots of fish, too much PUFAs is not... (more)

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by 32175 · March 29, 2012 at 4:03 AM

So lots of threads on this site about whether it is OK to eat CAFO meat for budgetary reasons and what to do if that's all you can afford. My question is simply, if we are telling people to eliminate the NADs (neolithic agents of disease):... (more)

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Richard_N 0 · March 03, 2012 at 1:13 AM

It's not OK, improvise and budget if need be. You don't need to eat it everyday or the absurd amounts of meat eaten at one sitting posted by some here (which raises uric acid levels and is harmful to the liver and kidneys)

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by 1669 · February 12, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Hey all! So I am currently out of work and living off my student loans, and let me tell you it is SUPER easy to go over budget on Paleo. When it comes to my meats I can no longer afford strictly grass-fed beef....the only place I can get it costs... (more)

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TCM 0 · February 12, 2012 at 4:37 AM

Do you have a Whole Foods near you? The ones in my city sell grass fed ground beef for $7 per pound. It is an economical way to get your grass fed beef. I too struggle with the grass fed/price issue, but if you really do some reading and research... (more)

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by 6629 · January 30, 2012 at 7:29 PM

I have humbly looked over my diet over the last year and came to the conclusion that much of that time I was not really eating 'Paleo'. I was drinking 'heavy cream' with coffee every day, sometime 2x a day, and I didn't go light on it. It was... (more)

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Phazo 0 · January 28, 2012 at 9:34 AM

God, this question makes me feel guilty about being cheap.

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by 1605 · January 25, 2012 at 11:40 PM

So I came across some very very low priced beef heart in a local market, though not a chance it's anything but CAFO meat. My idea was to indulge in this meaty delight as a cheap and thus abundant source of animal protein in lieu of pricier steaks... (more)

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Joshua_1 0 · January 25, 2012 at 11:09 PM

According to the USDA Beef heart has 5.02gm of protein per ounce and 1.12gm of fat. To compare... Beef sirloin has 8.31gm of protein per ounce and 2.74gm of fat +1 for the tag btw...

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by 1037 · December 17, 2011 at 6:46 PM

After learning about the benefits of eating beef liver from various Paleo websites, I have been doing that once a week for a few months now. However, the one health food store I have access to that sold non-CAFO beef liver stopped selling it for... (more)

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Rhubarb 0 · December 16, 2011 at 9:17 PM

You've probably come across this article by Mark Sission, Does the Liver Store Toxins?, but it's a great overview of the issue you haven't. It would appear in most cases the liver doesn't contain many more toxins than lean muscle meat, and some... (more)

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by 1681 · October 31, 2011 at 11:23 AM

If a CAFO animal, like a cow, were to show up at their Cow-doctor, would that cow be diagnosed as sick? I hear that all CAFO cows are obese, so i guess the question is a matter of 'How sick'? What sickness plagues CAFO animals the most? What... (more)

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Matt_11 0 · October 31, 2011 at 11:23 AM

They're not necessarily sick, per se, but suffer from inadequate nutrition that leads to inflammation which ultimately over time will cause infectious disease to set in.

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by 892 · August 29, 2011 at 3:05 PM

I recall there being a question about this, but I can't seem to locate it. Anyway, there have been a lot of studies recently claiming "red meat causes X", and people typically like to refute it with "grassfed beef is different." However, I'm... (more)

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Eric_12 0 · August 29, 2011 at 4:04 AM

When the meat quality is low.. Eat lean meats and supplement with fat from other sources.

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by 5002 · April 21, 2013 at 5:15 AM

The short answer is obviously No. However, I want to see what people think about a McDonalds hack that I've been implementing. I order 3 McDoubles plain (ie no sauce) and only eat the cheese and meat, which sums to 3 slices of cheese and 6... (more)

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scilla 0 · April 21, 2013 at 5:15 AM

Just order a bunless angus burger, no sauce, wrapped in lettuce, and unsweetened tea. That's what I do.I've gotten some snotty remarks from the kids that work there but hey, you do what you gotta do!

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by 547 · March 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM

I completely agree on spending money on high-quality foods therefore splurging on grass-fed and organic meats. BUT, say one had to choose the healthiest and least toxin/antibiotic residue conventional meat, which would it be? You know how the... (more)

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Bread_Eating_Beelzebub 0 · March 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Here is my list of meat ranked best to worst I think lamb, goat, and beef are decent choices even if from feedlots. They aren't there their entire lives and often goat is entirely grassfed because there aren't many feedlots that finish it. (more)

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by 4073 · February 05, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Day by day, I am becoming a person who shuns restaurants and when dining out is unavoidable I am considering becoming a "restaurant vegan". I am becoming more edified in my belief that human consumption of CAFO/IRAF animals is ethically wrong and... (more)

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Bread_Eating_Beelzebub 0 · February 04, 2011 at 10:18 PM

If you order lamb there is a 75% chance it's imported and thus not CAFO since the major exporter of lamb is New Zealand, which pastures its lamb. Either way, for future reference based on my agricultural experience, here are the most wretched... (more)

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by 20469 · April 28, 2012 at 11:55 AM

I heard recently that perhaps current CAFO beef feeding operations that are often blamed for salmonella poisoning, not because cows spread salmonella, but most because cornfed cows spread salmonella. The acidification of their stomachs from all... (more)

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John_the_chef 0 · May 07, 2011 at 11:42 PM

I believe that ecoli is the bacteria formed by the infection in the cows stomach from corn, not salmonElla...

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by 1648 · December 27, 2010 at 4:49 PM

I live in Argentina. Here, chickens are given tons of hormones (so I don't eat them); however, cattle are (by law) never given any hormones, so they're fully natural (and mostly grass fed!), so I eat lots of beef. However: I love eggs, and eggs... (more)

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Philosopher 0 · December 27, 2010 at 4:49 PM

The sad news is that most beef currently sold in Argentina (at least in Buenos Aires and surroundings) is no more grass-fed. It used to be that way but about ten years ago the feed-lot products took over, so that grass fed is only for exports, or... (more)

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by 810 · March 29, 2012 at 5:50 AM

Where I live (Israel), I can get either local beef from relatively small (very small, by US standards) CAFO-style operations, with "veterinary supervision" (that's what it says on the package, as if its a selling point!), or totally natural... (more)

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Girl_Gone_Primal 0 · July 18, 2010 at 5:22 AM

First - I would prioritise your own health. Then - I would import pastured beef since the 'evil-factor' of importing vs CAFO balance out for me, whereas supporting CAFO encourages the growth of that industry whilst also being detrimental to your... (more)

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by 15831 · June 24, 2010 at 10:40 PM

hey, if anyone gets barardi's emails they will have already seen this but since some of us spend a good chunk of time talking about grass-fed beef, cafo beef, etc i thought posting this would be... (more)

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Mr__Trashcan 0 · June 24, 2010 at 9:20 PM

Ben, thank you. Since Grok didn't eat cows to begin with, I suspected that it made little difference whether they were grain or grass fed, especially if we're not eating veg fats. And now, knowing the truth about beef farms, I feel more... (more)

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by 13928 · April 12, 2011 at 1:01 AM

Are pastured eggs more paleo? Is there really a nutritional difference between pastured eggs vs free-range/organic eggs vs regular eggs? Are CAFO eggs really nutritionally bankrupt? I'm curious what the general consensus is in the paleo... (more)

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bryceb 0 · February 17, 2010 at 12:08 AM

I think that anytime an animal has access to it's natural food source, the end result is going to be healthier. Here is a post from Whole Health Source on the subject: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/05/pastured-eggs.html Vitamin... (more)