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Why have I suddenly been diagnosed with cancer?

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Created June 15, 2012 at 4:28 AM

Hi. I'm brand new here but I really feel comfortable after reading a lot of the questions and answers. I never had any health problems until this past December when I was diagnosed out of the blue (for me anyway) with cervical cancer. Had a hysterectomy, told I was cured ( everything was clean, including PET scan, CT scan, surgery margins) and then, three months later, the cancer is back and now spread to 2 lymph nodes, on my colon, and a bigger tumor than the original. Now I am going for chemo (had my third round) and being told I will be lucky to live 5 years.

So...for the past 8 years (I'm 35) I have been following a fairly strict paleo diet, although I don't do a ton of meat. I am trying to understand what happened...what did I do wrong? How did I end up Here? It's not genetic, both parents eat like crap and are old and healthy. Does anyone have any ideas at all? I am at a loss :-/

BTW I know a lot of people are very down on chemo, but it has been palliative for me. All the pain from my tumors pressing on sensitive nerves in my pelvis and my colon is gone and I was totally off pain meds the first week after chemo. I know it is poison and I suffer with the side effects every day, but I think being on a fentanyl patch for pain and sleeping all day was worse.

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1000 · December 23, 2012 at 6:38 AM

Cancer's not real. !! I know what youre thinking, but if you want to get better, stop treatment/meds, and believe in yourself.

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12702 · December 22, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Neu5Gc probably more important than viruses? That explains why meat eating is associated with a higher risk cervical cancer than having HPV...oh wait, sorry, the opposite is true: http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v101/n1/full/6605098a.html http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/(SICI)1096-9896(199909)189:1%3C12::AID-PATH431%3E3.0.CO;2-F/abstract

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17344 · December 22, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Um, what? The China Study has been repeatedly shown fraudulent, and most cancers prefer carb consumption, so whose ass did you pull fats, cholesterol as promoters?

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48 · December 22, 2012 at 10:01 PM

The brain prefers sugar above all other fuels. Same for red blood cells, and it seems most cells prefer sugar.... We always have sugar in our blood, so tumors can always get sugar. Tumors can't grow without building materials (protein and fat) and misleading the immune system. Cancer has similarities to autoimmune disease, and Neu5Gc seems involved: http://nutritionfacts.org/index.php?s=Neu5Gc

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10 · July 10, 2012 at 4:49 AM

check this book out http://www.amazon.com/Crazy-Sexy-Diet-Veggies-Ignite/dp/0762777931/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1341895709&sr=1-2&keywords=crazy+sexy+cancer this lady has terminal cancer on her liver, she is thriving now. its a very hopefull and interesting book. Hope you are doing good. Praying for your healing.

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15400 · June 18, 2012 at 4:30 AM

I think the goal is to boost your overall immunity so your body can fight cancer cells better. From what I know foods that build your immunity are ORGANIC cruciferous vegetables (cabbage family, broccoli, kale), onions (different kinds), mushrooms, preferably shiitake, garlic, ginger, organic and wild berries. If you have a garden, all kinds of "weird" berries could be beneficial, organic raspberry, blackberry, sea buckthorn, black currant, etc. Not extracts - real organic berries. From protein sources I know that wild Alaskan salmon has healing properties unmatched by other protein sources.

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105 · June 18, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Hi Chinaeskimo, I use an Australian brand called Bioceuticals which comes in drops. I take the equivalent of 5000iu per day. I don't think brand matters so much as long as it's cholecalciferol D3. I was also able to get from my nutritional doctor an injection to bring my D3 up to a safe level in one go, now I maintain it. This may be something you can investigate if your levels are shown to be deficient. I found the D3 also lifted my mood significantly. All the best!

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Dragonfly thank you. This forum has been incredibly wonderful and a wealth of knowledge with wonderful people

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Thank you. I am reading it now.

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Hi VB I was veggie from age 12 to age 27. A long time. Chinaeskimo is Chinese food (husbands business) and American Eskimo dogs. Two big things in my life :-) I can def do any berries but I have never ever eaten fish. I seem to have an aversion to it. What berries are weird?

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Melissa adeno is harder to diagnose because the tumor is up in the cervix or growing out up into the uterus so you don't get cells during a pap smear and cannot see a lesion. It has nothing to do with the technology of reading the pap

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15400 · June 17, 2012 at 8:35 AM

Could you please try to get wild Alaskan salmon and start eating it? Also organic berries, even the weird ones.

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15400 · June 17, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Hi (are there eskimos in China?) How long have you been a vegetarian? Sorry to ask all those questions. I am just wondering what could have affected your immunity.

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6719 · June 17, 2012 at 5:50 AM

Then msg me, I got your back.

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Lambchop...I love that name. Thanks for sharing your experience. Is there any brand of vitamin d you like? Also Ty for the book recommendation. I will look it up.

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Stella, thank you. It seems like your cancer is hopefully confined.

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Hi VB I never ate any fish, and I was vegetarian for a long ti e. It's mostly beef.

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7660 · June 16, 2012 at 3:56 AM

+1 for "But with that has come a new habit, where every day I insist upon myself to choose life."

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4100 · June 16, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Lol Ive been wanting to try that!

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15400 · June 15, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Also, do you eat fish? What kind of meat do you eat - chicken, beef?

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32518 · June 15, 2012 at 11:04 PM

First, get tested. It's the 25(OH)D test. Carlson's Solar D Gems or NOW D3 supplements are the ones I recommend. More info at www.vitamindcouncil.org

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15400 · June 15, 2012 at 10:56 PM

My address vb10vb10@yahoo.com but I have to warn you - please make sure with your regular doctor that this is okay for you - after all, all herbs are supplements, and they have very potent properties. My doctor okayed it, and I feel they do make the difference in how I feel.

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56616 · June 15, 2012 at 10:51 PM

nothing new about pap smears, but the technology behind them has gotten more accurate

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15400 · June 15, 2012 at 10:49 PM

You really eat very clean. I don't think you did anything wrong.

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 10:20 PM

What is newer about the pap technology?

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56616 · June 15, 2012 at 10:00 PM

newer pap technology is also less likely to miss adenocarcinoma

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Jessecurry, I don't know when I got it, maybe 15-20 yrs ago, but when I was diagnosed I came back positive for HPV 16 and 18, the high risk strains.

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85 · June 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM

It may be a bit personal, but at any time did you contract a human papillomavirus? AFAIK, HPV types 16 and 18 are responsible for around 3/4 of all cervical cancer.

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56616 · June 15, 2012 at 7:12 PM

that's the worst thing about HPV. Because of the "sex" stigma, people miss it. It affects anyone who has ever had sex with anyone who has ever had sex with anyone else. Unless you are truly completely monogamous and have a long-term partner who has never been with anyone and you yourself have never been with anyone, it's worth getting screened for at least every few years. I guess I'm on the other end and I was over-screened because I am a Diethylstilbestrol granddaughter. And a false positive can be quite traumatizing too.

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290 · June 15, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Its not that you are or have done anything wrong. Cancer cancer is a biological expression of a mutation of a gene/genome. Individual factors, environment, stress, time, age, etc. all play a role in the expression and mutation of genes. To attribute the paleo diet as a failure because it did not adequately protect you is false security because we must remember that diet while it is an extremely powerful player of our health, diet itself is not an invisibility cloak. Be well and stay strong, we are all here for you!

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8757 · June 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM

One of the worst for a man, prostate, and he was 46 at the time. very aggressive, caught in time and so far still testing clean...I guess the first year after is the riskiest time after for regrowth but all good for now. My son now has to start testing when he hits 30 because they say it is a question of genetics for him.

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Thank you for the link...looking right now.

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Oh wow. I had a very similar experience, hemorrhaging during my surgery, getting 5 units of blood. If it doesn't pain you to talk more about went through (I understand not wanting to relive it) I would like to speak to you as I have never found anyone else with recurrent CC.

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:26 PM

It is wonderful that they caught your husbands cancer in time. My I ask what kind?

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:24 PM

P.s. I am sorry about your scare. I really dislike vaccines, but this may be one to consider as there is no test for HPV in men, screening often misses adenocarcinoma (my type) due to location, and there are no real great treatments for advanced CC

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Until recently I was blissfully naive about the stigma cervical cancer carries (that you must be some kind of nymph/hussy). The funny thing is that I have been married for 15 years and have zero risk factors for this type of cancer....although I can say that I never went for regular checkups, never went to the doctor in general (dad is a doc, mom is a nurse, why bother?) so I missed any early detection

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Hi Dragonfly. Stupid question, but other than sunshine, how would I raise Vitamin D3? I am always intimidated by the very large selection of supplements available by so many different makers

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:16 PM

P.S. I am interested in herbs, but I am not sure how (or of it's okay) to contact people privately here?

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Lets see...a typical day would be a sweet potato with butter for breakfast. Lunch is greens with mushrooms and cauliflower in sauce, fruit throughout the day, nuts and more veggies for dinner with a lean piece of meat. Maybe some veggie/fruit juice. If I cheat it's usually a little dairy or a bowl of cereal with almond milk.

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32518 · June 15, 2012 at 5:40 PM

So challenging--my sister had a similar experience with breast/thyroid cancer. Getting your Vitamin D3 level up around 80 ng/ml may be helpful to you in your healing process. (((Hugs))

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24271 · June 15, 2012 at 1:42 PM

I agree completely. Chinaeskimo you've done nothing wrong. You were exposed to a virus and are unfortunate enough to have been born a couple of decades too soon so you were not offered a vaccine to prevent it. Forget the people who are down on chemo. I think many more of us are very much up on people doing whatever they have to do to get better and/or feel better. Best wishes!

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20411 · June 15, 2012 at 1:07 PM

My first thought was something environmental, either exposure to carcinogens or stress. Matthew may be on to something... And, stress can suppress the immune system.

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 5:07 AM

TY...I definitely do not have the most perfect life. I went through some major stress that lasted the last three years and I often wonder if this was the trigger.

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19220 · June 15, 2012 at 9:07 AM

I am very sad to read your story.

I would advise you to go and read this page from the National Cancer Institute.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/HPV

You have most likely become infected many years ago with a type of human papillomavirus.

"Researchers believe that it can take between 10 and 20 years from the time of an initial HPV infection until a tumor forms."

While some environmental factors may contribute to an infection persisting these viruses have evolved to be able to infect healthy people however perfect their diet.

Virtually all cervical cancers are caused by human papillomavirus infections. These viruses are very common in the population, don't cause any symptoms and are easy to catch through sexual transmission.

I don't think you did anything wrong, you have just been unlucky.

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24271 · June 15, 2012 at 1:42 PM

I agree completely. Chinaeskimo you've done nothing wrong. You were exposed to a virus and are unfortunate enough to have been born a couple of decades too soon so you were not offered a vaccine to prevent it. Forget the people who are down on chemo. I think many more of us are very much up on people doing whatever they have to do to get better and/or feel better. Best wishes!

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56616 · June 15, 2012 at 2:10 PM

I'm very sorry to hear about what you are going through.

If you look at bones from the paleolithic and from foraging people, there is evidence that a fair number of people suffered from various possibly sexually-transmitted infections. No one likes to talk about them. I had an cervical cancer scare earlier this year, but luckily if it had been cervical cancer, I was getting yearly paps and it would have been caught early enough to be a nuisance rather than a death sentence. I didn't really want to blog about it, which was stupid, since this is something that can happen to anyone who has had sex with anyone who has had sex with anyone else, so it's something the vast majority of people are vulnerable to. After that, I got the Gardasil vaccine, which prevents most of the viruses that can cause cervical cancer. You didn't do anything wrong, you are just unlucky since Gardasil came out recently and is only available to people under 26 years of age. I know a lot of people in the paleo community are anti-vax, but I strongly recommend this vaccine to anyone I know who is eligible. And if people can't/won't get it, they need to get yearly pap smears if they are female (sadly quite hard in a country where most people don't have adequate health insurance).

Interestingly owsley stanley, a proponent of a keto carnivore paleo diet, had throat cancer, which is also caused by HPV in most cases. Later he died in a car accident. The paleo diet could prevent neither of these things. Luckily modern medicine can heal a lot of people who would have died in the past. Hopefully this is the case for you.

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56616 · June 15, 2012 at 10:00 PM

newer pap technology is also less likely to miss adenocarcinoma

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 10:20 PM

What is newer about the pap technology?

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:24 PM

P.s. I am sorry about your scare. I really dislike vaccines, but this may be one to consider as there is no test for HPV in men, screening often misses adenocarcinoma (my type) due to location, and there are no real great treatments for advanced CC

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56616 · June 15, 2012 at 7:12 PM

that's the worst thing about HPV. Because of the "sex" stigma, people miss it. It affects anyone who has ever had sex with anyone who has ever had sex with anyone else. Unless you are truly completely monogamous and have a long-term partner who has never been with anyone and you yourself have never been with anyone, it's worth getting screened for at least every few years. I guess I'm on the other end and I was over-screened because I am a Diethylstilbestrol granddaughter. And a false positive can be quite traumatizing too.

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Until recently I was blissfully naive about the stigma cervical cancer carries (that you must be some kind of nymph/hussy). The funny thing is that I have been married for 15 years and have zero risk factors for this type of cancer....although I can say that I never went for regular checkups, never went to the doctor in general (dad is a doc, mom is a nurse, why bother?) so I missed any early detection

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56616 · June 15, 2012 at 10:51 PM

nothing new about pap smears, but the technology behind them has gotten more accurate

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Melissa adeno is harder to diagnose because the tumor is up in the cervix or growing out up into the uterus so you don't get cells during a pap smear and cannot see a lesion. It has nothing to do with the technology of reading the pap

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5828 · June 15, 2012 at 5:01 AM

I'm very sorry for what you're going through. No one deserves to suffer. I wish you the best in your healing journey.

I have some thoughts on your question but please take what works for you and ignore the rest. I know nothing about you or your life situation but I wonder how your friendships, relationships, community life and other important elements of your life are.

I ask myself the hard question of why I focus so much on diet when my diet is pretty darn clean. This piece of a blog article answered my question really well.

It???s easy to get too obsessed and mechanistic in our thinking about the extent to which we can control our health by controlling our diet. If the crazy stuff coming out the field of epigenetics suggests anything, it is that health is about a rich array of dietary and lifestyle factors that all interact with each other in complex ways.

To me, it makes the whole macronutrient debate look pretty silly. And as the New York Times has reported, it???s not about the numbers alone. It???s about the total lifestyle that went into producing the numbers.

In the long run, once you???re eating a relatively clean diet, variants on that just pale in comparison to things like stress levels, time outdoors, sleep, community, etc. In other words, many of the aspects of the lives of traditional/paleo peoples that are so hard to replicate in the modern world. Perhaps given that difficulty, focus on the one thing we can control most easily???diet???is understandable. It???s easy to get too obsessed and mechanistic in our thinking about the extent to which we can control our health by controlling our diet. If the crazy stuff coming out the field of epigenetics suggests anything, it is that health is about a rich array of dietary and lifestyle factors that all interact with each other in complex ways.

To me, it makes the whole macronutrient debate look pretty silly. And as the New York Times has reported, it???s not about the numbers alone. It???s about the total lifestyle that went into producing the numbers.

For myself, diet has become the easy part. It's one of the thing in my life that I can control. Work is another area of my life that's under control. I'm starting to feel this unexplainable urgency to get the rest of my life (in particular family, relationships, and community) into better balance.

Along the same lines of finding balance, Chris Kresser wrote this piece that really really resonated with me:

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link

What I???ve observed in myself, in working with patients and in almost 20 years of meditation practice is that each of us has a significant blind spot or area in our lives where we lack awareness and insight. As a crude analogy, let???s call this a weak link in our chain and assume that the chain represents health.

Most of us invest the majority of our time and energy strengthening the parts of our chain that are already strong. These stronger links are where we feel comfortable and confident, where we can operate safely within the bounds of who we think we are.

And this is where the problem lies. No matter how much we strengthen the links in our chain that are already strong, if there???s still a weak link the chain as a whole isn???t stronger. It can break just as easily.

A better approach, of course, would be to focus our efforts on the strengthening the weak link. But that is much, much harder to do. Why? Because it usually requires us to step out of our concept of self and challenge our very identity. It asks us to grow and evolve and shine the light of awareness into the dark corners of our psyche. This isn???t something that happens overnight. It???s not as simple as popping a pill or eliminating nightshades from our diet. It???s a life???s work.

I sincerely hope that some of this speaks to you or, if not, that others here have some helpful insights.

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 5:07 AM

TY...I definitely do not have the most perfect life. I went through some major stress that lasted the last three years and I often wonder if this was the trigger.

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20411 · June 15, 2012 at 1:07 PM

My first thought was something environmental, either exposure to carcinogens or stress. Matthew may be on to something... And, stress can suppress the immune system.

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20519 · June 15, 2012 at 4:23 PM

I am so sorry and wish I could give you a hundred hugs and a hand to hold. I was misdiagnosed last year with cervical cancer and was bewildered, confused, pissed, freaked in addition to about 300 other emotions. My deal turned out to be someone else' records in my file that a 2nd opinion discovered. I can only imagine what you're going through.

YOU did nothing wrong. I don't know the what/when/how as cancer doesn't run in my family, there is no history, yet my 35 year old brother had colon cancer that spread into his entire body. Who the fuck knows? I literally just punched my couch right now.

I think Matthew is on to something and am with Shari and her Forget the people who are down on chemo. I think many more of us are very much up on people doing whatever they have to do to get better and/or feel better.

I want to tell you that I have a friend who had cancer, went through treatments, and given pretty much a no chance of surviving. 9 years later they're still causing the best kinds of trouble and I wish you the exact same thing. I'm taking all the positivity I have and beaming it towards you.

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8757 · June 15, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Sorry to hear about your news!

My husband was also diagnosed out of the blue with cancer, we were shocked because his side of the family has NO history of any real illness and NO cancers, in fact his father lived to 95, his grandmother 105 and his mother (91) is still alive, well and thriving as well as all his 9 other siblings, all excellent health.

There are a few differences between him and his family, 1) he has a high pressure corporate job, has for the last 25 years. Stress is a factor I believe contributed to this, because in general he has a iron stomach and is as healthy as a horse! 2) He left his country when he was 18 to come to the USA, he eats SAD (as does his family) but he has been exposed to more processed foods, whereas his family is in south american and still cooks from fresh and traditional foods.

He's had his surgery, got it before it spread and 3 years later is still going strong and clean, unfortunately hasn't reduced his stress level, he finds it more stressful not to be doing what he loves....so I do my best to feed and care for him as well as i can.

Do whatever you need to do to get better, chemo etc. At these points of illnesses one has to take into consideration various traditional medical methods to save your life!

You did nothing wrong, likely the first surgery dislodged some cancer cells and they spread. Our surgeon told us the same thing, they have to get the cancer out but if even one cell still remains it can multiply, hence the need to continually monitor.

Stay strong, focus on recovery and all the positives, they found it, its treatable and with a strong will you can beat it!!

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8757 · June 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM

One of the worst for a man, prostate, and he was 46 at the time. very aggressive, caught in time and so far still testing clean...I guess the first year after is the riskiest time after for regrowth but all good for now. My son now has to start testing when he hits 30 because they say it is a question of genetics for him.

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:26 PM

It is wonderful that they caught your husbands cancer in time. My I ask what kind?

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105 · June 16, 2012 at 3:03 AM

Dear Chinaeskimo,

Firstly great big (((((hugs))))) for you!

After 3 years primal, I was diagnosed with breast cancer in Feb last year. I'm 46. I went through exactly the same questioning of, Why did this happen? What did I do wrong? I eat primal! I do yoga for goodness sake! In the end I had no answers, other than life is just like that sometimes. I've learnt cancer has many, many causes. And while diet can certainly help boost the immune system there are many other factors which contribute.

I had surgery, radiotherapy and now drugs that make me a hormonal basket case. One of the biggest things for me has been losing that sense of invincibility.

But with that has come a new habit, where every day I insist upon myself to choose life.

I really recommend a book by Dr David Servan-Schreiber called "Anti cancer". A long term survivor of recurrent brain cancer, he has loads of information on diet, attitude, treatments etc, even delving in to the quantum biology sphere. I have found great inspiration in this book. As there are many causes, there are also a great many paths to wellness and a long full life.

Please don't feel you have to defend your use of chemo. You do whatever it is you need to do and do it with belief. On a practical note, at diagnosis I was found to be very deficient in both vit D and Iodine. So I recommend tests for these. Also, somewhat controversial, but dental health needs to be checked. I had what turned out to be an infected root canal tooth which over the years had been taxing (distracting?) my immune system without me even being aware of it.

From Sydney, I'm sending you waves of strength and vitality. :-)

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7660 · June 16, 2012 at 3:56 AM

+1 for "But with that has come a new habit, where every day I insist upon myself to choose life."

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Lambchop...I love that name. Thanks for sharing your experience. Is there any brand of vitamin d you like? Also Ty for the book recommendation. I will look it up.

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105 · June 18, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Hi Chinaeskimo, I use an Australian brand called Bioceuticals which comes in drops. I take the equivalent of 5000iu per day. I don't think brand matters so much as long as it's cholecalciferol D3. I was also able to get from my nutritional doctor an injection to bring my D3 up to a safe level in one go, now I maintain it. This may be something you can investigate if your levels are shown to be deficient. I found the D3 also lifted my mood significantly. All the best!

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15400 · June 15, 2012 at 8:01 AM

My mom was diagnosed with uterine cancer back in 1992. She had a hysterectomy, but her cancer came back in less than a year and it spread. She was told that if she was lucky, she would get another five years to live. Then she had three chemo treatments. In 1996 she had a surgery to remove her breast cancer.

She is still alive, not sure how well she is because we have a rule never to talk about health problems. She looks fine to me. I believe she developed her cancer due to a huge amount of stress she is under (my dad is the biggest stress factor I know). Some people are stress-resistant and some are stress-prone. She is the latter one.

She has always ate not a very clean diet. Lots of bread, butter, smoked sausages (salami type), cold cuts, cheese, milk, grains galore, meat, etc. I think my mom is gluten intolerant (because I am) but she just does not care and keeps eating gluten.

She was never big on vegetables. The only three vegetables we always had in our house were potatoes, carrots and onions. She also has very little fruit.

What keeps her alive? I believe it is her fighting spirit. She wants to outlive my dad - I think it is quite a noble goal. She also takes things easy now and tries not to stress over little things, although it is hard with her personality type. She has the best sense of humor than anybody else I know and this helps her a great deal. She laughs a lot and tries to find things in life that makes her happy. She is retired and she never knew how to swim, so she enrolled in a swimming class. She has not learned how to swim yet, but she had a lot of fun and even participated in a competition - she did not drown in shallow water and that's a big win for her! She also took a computer class and sometimes she goes to a karaoke studio.

So here is my advice for you - do anything possible to keep yourself happy on a daily basis. Try to find a way to laugh as often as possible and find pleasure in every day things.

I also have a question for you - what is a fairly "strict" Paleo diet that you have been following? Because everybody eats different things - some people eat Ray Peat, some eat safe starches, etc. What exactly do you eat? Thanks in advance.

P.S. I forgot to tell you - if you want to get some herbs after your chemo (for your overall health support) I know a very good herbalist.

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15400 · June 15, 2012 at 10:56 PM

My address vb10vb10@yahoo.com but I have to warn you - please make sure with your regular doctor that this is okay for you - after all, all herbs are supplements, and they have very potent properties. My doctor okayed it, and I feel they do make the difference in how I feel.

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Lets see...a typical day would be a sweet potato with butter for breakfast. Lunch is greens with mushrooms and cauliflower in sauce, fruit throughout the day, nuts and more veggies for dinner with a lean piece of meat. Maybe some veggie/fruit juice. If I cheat it's usually a little dairy or a bowl of cereal with almond milk.

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15400 · June 15, 2012 at 10:49 PM

You really eat very clean. I don't think you did anything wrong.

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:16 PM

P.S. I am interested in herbs, but I am not sure how (or of it's okay) to contact people privately here?

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Hi VB I never ate any fish, and I was vegetarian for a long ti e. It's mostly beef.

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15400 · June 15, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Also, do you eat fish? What kind of meat do you eat - chicken, beef?

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15400 · June 17, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Hi (are there eskimos in China?) How long have you been a vegetarian? Sorry to ask all those questions. I am just wondering what could have affected your immunity.

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Hi VB I was veggie from age 12 to age 27. A long time. Chinaeskimo is Chinese food (husbands business) and American Eskimo dogs. Two big things in my life :-) I can def do any berries but I have never ever eaten fish. I seem to have an aversion to it. What berries are weird?

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15400 · June 17, 2012 at 8:35 AM

Could you please try to get wild Alaskan salmon and start eating it? Also organic berries, even the weird ones.

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15400 · June 18, 2012 at 4:30 AM

I think the goal is to boost your overall immunity so your body can fight cancer cells better. From what I know foods that build your immunity are ORGANIC cruciferous vegetables (cabbage family, broccoli, kale), onions (different kinds), mushrooms, preferably shiitake, garlic, ginger, organic and wild berries. If you have a garden, all kinds of "weird" berries could be beneficial, organic raspberry, blackberry, sea buckthorn, black currant, etc. Not extracts - real organic berries. From protein sources I know that wild Alaskan salmon has healing properties unmatched by other protein sources.

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118 · June 15, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Although, as I'm sure you know, every body, every cancer, and every circumstance is different per each individual. First, I will say my heart goes out to you and even though it's not easy, one person's diagnosis is not always the final answer. Some things just are the way they are and questioning the cause when it's all past due will only stress your body and can harm your healing. At the age of 17 I was told to have a hysterectomy. I had "bad plumbing" - PCOS, fibroids, endometriosis, etc. I just continued to bounce to other doctors with the same recommendation. Then at 21 I was diagnoses with cervical cancer. Went through treatments and the cancer subsided. Eventually it all took over and at 28 I had an emergency hysterectomy with transfusions and the whole nine as I was hemmoraging. I had no choice. However, less than a yr later, cancer returned. Treated, then what do you know? It came back AGAIN. Now, keep in mind, I was raised Paleo (although I didn't know that's what it was called.) My father was a chef and we grew all our veggies and bartered with our neighboring farms for the meat and eggs. With small, short exceptions, I've eaten this way since birth and I still consider the chance it could return. I even tried pH diet modifications to heal. Perhaps they helped as I am still here against the odds. They may tell you one thing but who is the miracle worker if they are wrong? You have an amazing support group here that will be around for you at any hour. I hope you reach out if needed. Wishing you a speedy recovery and the chance to kick the doctor's words out of existence. If you need an ear or would like to hear more of what I did diet wise (I am a nutritionist but don't judge me for it), I'm always hanging around here. Best of luck to you...

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Oh wow. I had a very similar experience, hemorrhaging during my surgery, getting 5 units of blood. If it doesn't pain you to talk more about went through (I understand not wanting to relive it) I would like to speak to you as I have never found anyone else with recurrent CC.

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504 · June 15, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Im sorry for what you are going through, i dont have clear explanation of why this happened to you, it could be because age, genes, environment, etc, somethings out of your control, the reasons are diffrent for every person, ill keep you in my prayers bud, and keep fighting!

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6719 · June 15, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Eat grass fed meat. And eat brownies cooked with marijuana butter.

Hope you feel better.

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4100 · June 16, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Lol Ive been wanting to try that!

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6719 · June 17, 2012 at 5:50 AM

Then msg me, I got your back.

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10 · June 17, 2012 at 1:25 AM

I'm sorry to hear about you cancer. I'm a 25 year old male and recently had thyroid cancer tumor removed and a painless radiation treatment. My cancer is not as bad as yours but I understand all the worry and things going on with. I don't agree with the last poster to cut down on fruits. That seems ludicrous to me fruits and veggies have antioxidants and phytochemicals to help against cancer.

I wanted to share this woman's story wiht you. http://www.drmcdougall.com/stars/star07_ruth-heidrich.html

Her story is an important example of how he body never ceases in its efforts to heal and stay healthy.

A plant based diet away from meat helped her. Maybe try cutting all meat and dairy out of your diet. Eating fruits and veggies will help you body. I went to a plant based diet and I feel a lot healthier. I hope you give that a try. It seems you are passionate about animals also, its a kinder diet. God bless you praying for healing for you!

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Thank you. I am reading it now.

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10 · July 10, 2012 at 4:49 AM

check this book out http://www.amazon.com/Crazy-Sexy-Diet-Veggies-Ignite/dp/0762777931/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1341895709&sr=1-2&keywords=crazy+sexy+cancer this lady has terminal cancer on her liver, she is thriving now. its a very hopefull and interesting book. Hope you are doing good. Praying for your healing.

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383 · June 15, 2012 at 1:43 PM

hey i am so sorry, i am no expert on this but i have read that following intermittent fasting, ESE (eat stop eat) is beneficial for cancer patients recovery, it is called autophagy, you should look into this in more detail, the author, Brad Pilon, of ESE (eat stop eat) has a book on this, you might want to research his website www.bradpilon.com where he discusses the major advantages of intermittent fasting for cancer patients especially those who have recently gone through chemo and radio therapy. In addition to this, i would eat a lot of cruciferous veg for their cancer fighting phytonutrients, as i said i'm no expert but i really do wish you the best.

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4100 · June 15, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Thank you for the link...looking right now.

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1523 · February 09, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Hello,

I don't know if you already heard about that, but the new way to beat cancer is to fast. A lot of people already beat their cancer by fasting for several weeks.

I am not english, but if you speak a little french I can send you some links about these guys who fasted to beat their cancer. For example, one beat his bladder cancer with a 28 days fast (he have been diagnosed several years before). But it is often longer to heal (40-60 days).

Moreover, a lot of studies show that the chemo is very very more effective and well support with a 2 days fast before to do it. Even if doctors in France or I guess in your country don't recommend the fast (because they just apply what they learned at school and don't know it...), for evident reasons (pharmaceutical economy...), in some countries as Germany for example, to fast against diseases is now recommended.

The fact is that when you are fasting instead of kill themselves to make new ones, your cells prefer to repair themselves. In addition, while you're fasting, your cells run autophagy ; it means that your body will use what is bad in your body to make energy, as cysts or bad cells, before using your critical energy reserves.

I hope it will help you if you are interested. Or maybe other sick people who will visit this post. (Actually, even if you are not sick an intermittent fasting diet is good for you health and reduce chances to develop diseases as cancers. I will just add that intermittent fasting should be included in paleo diet, because human being body is working in this way for 7 millions years...)

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95 · June 16, 2012 at 2:36 AM

I'm so sorry you're going through this! I hope you're getting lots of support in all areas of your life, and wish you profound healing.

I've read many times that it's best to cut fruit consumption WAY down, especially higher sugar fruits, when there's cancer involved, as cancer's preferred fuel is sugar (and apparently fructose counts), NOT protein as many vegans will try to tell you.

cancer IS a strange animal. my grandma got it from unchecked heartburn, if you can believe that.

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48 · December 22, 2012 at 10:01 PM

The brain prefers sugar above all other fuels. Same for red blood cells, and it seems most cells prefer sugar.... We always have sugar in our blood, so tumors can always get sugar. Tumors can't grow without building materials (protein and fat) and misleading the immune system. Cancer has similarities to autoimmune disease, and Neu5Gc seems involved: http://nutritionfacts.org/index.php?s=Neu5Gc

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50 · June 16, 2012 at 1:41 AM

I'm so sorry you're having to go through this. Cancer is a strange animal. I was diagnosed with melanoma 10 years ago. It showed up in the form of a mole on my forearm. The doctors always told me if I could make it 5 years without it coming back, I'd be good to go. Well, this April it came back in the form of a lump under the skin in the same general area of the forearm. Once again, the lymph nodes and margins were clear. Same as last time. I don't know where the cancer is hiding in there but now I know that it can and probably will come back. Why it hasn't spread and hasn't killed me, I don't know. There is no treatment for melanoma. Well, there are experimental treatments but I don't want to try those at this point. I wish you all the best in your battle with this. Just know that you're not alone.

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4100 · June 17, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Stella, thank you. It seems like your cancer is hopefully confined.

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48 · December 22, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Learn about Neu5Gc http://nutritionfacts.org/index.php?s=Neu5Gc

Read The China Study.

Cancer initiators like viruses are not as important as promoters: fats, cholesterol, methionine, and probably Neu5Gc.

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12702 · December 22, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Neu5Gc probably more important than viruses? That explains why meat eating is associated with a higher risk cervical cancer than having HPV...oh wait, sorry, the opposite is true: http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v101/n1/full/6605098a.html http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/(SICI)1096-9896(199909)189:1%3C12::AID-PATH431%3E3.0.CO;2-F/abstract

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17344 · December 22, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Um, what? The China Study has been repeatedly shown fraudulent, and most cancers prefer carb consumption, so whose ass did you pull fats, cholesterol as promoters?

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