I want to hear what you guys think about ezekiel cereals, specifically the food for life brand. These cereals do have a ton of carbs, but does that necessarily make them bad for you? They obviously arent paleo, but I have been having a bowl of them, with some grass fed raw milk and cinnamon the last few days, and have felt really good.
They are sprouted grains, which makes me think that the phytic acid content is probably substantially lower than most grains. They are also a complete protein because they are sprouted. They also market it as a low glycemic food. My question is this: If the product doesnt cause a spike in blood sugar (particularly if i am having it with full fat raw milk and cinnamon) and doesnt have any phytic acid, what is the problem with it? I understand it isnt paleo, but to me, the paleo diet shuns certain foods because of their effect on your body, not because of their title as a carb or protein.
In any case, i would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks in advance everyone!
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I guess you have to ask why you are doing paleo? I used to be a regular consumer of Ezekial cereal, but it tore up my stomach. Perhaps your stomach is less sensitive. I think the only way to gauge if you are sensitive to grains is to eliminate them all from your life for a period of time and add them back in.
My own experiences with that are that gluten grains are the main problem. If I eat grits or rice I don't get sick, but I also feel a little less energetic. The effects of grains can be subtle and take awhile to show up, which is why looking at the science is important. After all, as a kid I was a fairly good athlete and my diet was mostly white bread.
But if you actually can tolerate Ezekiel, you might be interested in some of the work of the Weston A. Price foundation, which advocates traditionally sprouted, soaked, and fermented grains.
However, I think it's quite telling though that Stephen at Whole Health Source won't eat gluten. It has some uniquely bad properties.
If you are interested in a cereal in general, it might be worth making your own out of sprouted non-gluten grains. For awhile I was making a nice cereal with sprouted buckwheat, quinoa, and chia...until I realized it was harder to make than just throwing some fish in a pan...and harder to digest.
my GI response after 1 full cup (90 carbs) of ezekial cerial with a pure protein shake ......went from 94.....(before meal) to (98) 20 minutes after. I work for a diabetic sales company in customer service so i love having these glucose meters on hand. so paleo hacks dismiss it based on gut feelings and bias against lorg paleo's scripture.
i utilized ezekial and other low glycemic carbs as part of my carb cycling regimine on my carb up (400g) for 1 day following 3 days of low carbs (50-75g) . This has allowed me to strip body fat while maintaining muscle mass so long as i do weight training on high carb days. now i have been employing a 2 day carb up followed by two day low carb for 2 months and maintained a 8.5 % bodyfat utilizing ezekial breads primarily often consuming OVER A LOAF a day (on the way to 400g carbs on high days) with a Glycemic response never over 110. usually 98-100 after 90 grams of low gi carbs consumed w/ protein (always) and low fat on high carb days...and medium fat on low carb days. peace
Another way of putting Melissa's answer is that there are valid reasons to eat Ezekiel bread: social, emotional, whatever. "Nutritional" is not one of those reasons. There is no upside to eating Ezekiel bread from a nutritional point of view, and potentially a LOT of downsides. You may not immediately be aware of these downsides.
There is also a small chance that the downsides will never manifest themselves for you as an individual. But you have no way of knowing that for sure.
I'll pass on the Insulin Boost, Inflammation and feeding the bad gut bacteria even if all the anti nutrients were eaten by the fermentation, which is not even close.
Even Gluten free spikes insulin, inflammation, poor gut colonies.
I'm in it for my health.
In my book, paleo is about eating the most nutritious foods. Any cereals, grains, etc are not that nutritious. I would much prefer eat a nice cut of meat than eat any cereals because a) it taste way much better b) it has no effect on my insulin levels c) it has everything I need to be a better athlete (proteins, fats, vitamins, etc) d) it has no anti-nutrients.
I occasionally eat true fermented sourdough or some sprouted grains, but I'm under no illusion that it's good for me.
If you feel you have to eat them, do what you can to minimize the harm, and do it rarely.
Ok some of peoples answers r bs. A) ur body is adaptive so if u cut out anything and then start consuming it again- be it veg or meat or processed crap- ur going to have a hard time processing itcause ur body isnt use to it. This relates to the first comme.t.
To other comments.. very little is known about the human body and alot of that knowledge is observational because conducting human tests they way they should be done is unethical ( u need to control all variables in a experiment aka they need to all sleep in the same place/time, same stress, eat the same,exercise the same..so on). So any one claiming one diet is the right way is bs because we dont even know allthe chemical pathways in the bbody. Open a book and ull see a goes to d and we don't know why or somehow a moves across a membrane but we dont know why...there r alot of these wholes in literature. Hence why nothing in science is a fact because they cant account for every variable.
Now the gut. To say bad and good bacteria..is incorrect..all bacteria is' bad' until it adapts to a niche in your gut ( its their greatest goal cause itll provide safety and food and offspring. They dont want to kill u cause it destorys their source of food and so on ) and if you r lucky gives you a bonus by processing ur foods for you. Alot of veggies r processed by bacteria cause u can't do it ur self. the gut bacteria is also adaptive to our environmental food. The bacteria in our ancestors gut will be diff from ours ( each region had certain available foods that certain bacteria could handle and those that couldn't dies.off). today the world's food is available to us
The.food u eat will define what bacteria will grow and which ones will be given to ur offspring. and ur body will be adaptive to a balance. Any.extreme wont provide.ur body with the nutrients it needed.so eating only apples or pecans will.throw ur system out of wack..that food type will.only.support a few bacteria and u need alot of bacteria to process all the diff food types to get the max nutrients.
So.is.paloe.the best..only time will tell. And that is also true for Ezekiel. See how ur body reacts to it.
I eat a hearty bowl of Ezekial cereal (half cup) almost about five mornings a week. I use non-sweetened organic soy milk and mix in tons of fresh organic berries and nuts (almonds, pistachios and walnuts) and it is a great energy source and has kept my weight down significantly.
This may not be for everyone but for me it's great. I'd take it any day over a slab of meat or a hunk of cheese.
Ezekial bread for me has been a staple in my eating habits. Instead of adopting with wide range acceptance to what we must eat because it's "paleo" or not. We should understand that everyone is different, genetically speaking of course. Ectomorph, mesomorph, endomopth, regional adaptation ect.. Before the idea of paleo was presented to me, my nutritional habits were already very similar to the paleo diet. By learning to eat organic, close to the source philosophy and understand when to fuel my body. If you can learn how your body would work in the natural environment aside from the eating habits we have been conditioned to believ. You will adopt a strong nutritional foundation that will work for you. Were all different, if you have brothers or sisters I'm sure you. An understand this notion. Sprouted grains, seeds, nuts, fruits, vegetables, fish, meat, spices and herbs. All should be consumed in terms of balancing the body. Timing is crucial. If your ass just spend an hour hunting a damn buffalo, best believe you were snacking on nuts and berries to have energy. Then you would feast after the exhaustive hunt. Same shit with hitting the gym. Understand how humans have worked for 50,000 years and you will start to dismiss all this bullshit people say for the past thousand... Learn what works for you damnit.
It looks like most of you have not read the book Nourishing Traditions. You don't need to cut out grains completely unless they really bother you. When prepared properly; soaked, sprouted and/or fermented they contain so many great nutrients and minerals. Grains have helped many civilizations thrive! I considered the paleo diet for awhile and then i realized it cut out so many healthy foods like grains and dairy. I was also hungry all the time. We use Ezekiel's cereal, bread and noodles. We also consume dairy, some raw.
I love Ezekiel cereal. Gluten doesn't bother me at all. I know when I eat Ezekiel cereal it regulates my abowels and I am able to weigh less and feel comfortable everymorning. I would recommend it to anyone not having an alergic reaction to glutens. If you eat the serving amount recommended on the box it doesn't take a whole lot to get your day started. It's a meal in itself.
"These cereals do have a ton of carbs, but does that necessarily make them bad for you?"
Yes, that in and of itself is enough to make them bad for you.
Plus everything everyone else said.
Its not just the gluten that is a problem with grains albeit it is a huge one. An Avocado or another quick rich source of fat is still MY best breakfast. Coconut BUTTER is a wonderful quick spoonful delight. Mix some with a few walnuts, etc and out the door- I'm solid.
I love how internet dweebs just make shit up and run with it. Just because you say it doesn't make it true. I eat the Ezekiel cereals because they taste good and I feel better when i eat them...end of story. You can eat whatever you want and so can I, but the only difference is i'm not proclaiming I know something that i don't.