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Why are carbohydrates counted as grams and not as a percentage of total calories?

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Created April 18, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Why is it that in the paleo community carbohydrates are usually counted as grams as opposed to fat and protein which are counted for as a percentage of total calories?

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25467 · April 19, 2011 at 11:56 AM

AB.....my point is this. If you ask why your not getting results on this diet and you are eating insulinogenic foods you need to stop it. This is the likely reason why. Not everyone in the world has to worry about it. My responses were based upon the context it was asked in and then several posters immediately generalized my comments. I have always maintained on here context is critical. And this is true here as well. If you want optimal you should avoid suboptimal foods. Because you can tolerate it does not mean it is optimal. Testing tells you if you really can tolerate it.

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93 · April 19, 2011 at 1:57 AM

@Dr K - Insulinogenic is not hyperglycemic as you know. If fasting insulin levels are low, then why is dairy an issue. You obviously have heard about Chris Voight and his all potato diet. He was eating tons of insulinogenic potatoes but because his fasting levels were low, he lost 21 lbs in 60 days. So can you explain your views on this. Specifically, since I do dairy, I am curious. Thanks!

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93 · April 19, 2011 at 1:51 AM

@Dr K - Insulinogenic is not hyperglycemic as you know. If fasting glucose levels are low, then why is dairy an issue. You obviously have heard about Chris Voight and his all potato diet. He was eating tons of insulinogenic potatoes but because his fasting levels were low, he lost 21 lbs in 60 days. So can you explain your views on this. Specifically, since I do dairy, I am curious. Thanks!

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3521 · April 18, 2011 at 10:24 PM

So do we have to ingest 130 grams of glucose, either from carbohydrate or gluconeogenesis to meet daily liver glycogen needs.

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3521 · April 18, 2011 at 10:21 PM

This is similar to how I eat.

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24523 · April 18, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Good idea, but "a lot us" is a bit of a stretch!

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7967 · April 18, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Because most people in the paleo community are hype about ketosis and eat a VLC diet to stay in it. To these people more than 50g carbs per day is not a low-carb diet.

To me, whether your diet is low, moderate, or high in carbohydrate depends solely on the macro-nutrient proportions of your diet. I eat around 400-800 cals (100-200g) of carbs per day. I still consider my diet to be low in carbs because I also eat 1800-2500 cals of fat and 280-480 cals worth of protein.

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3521 · April 18, 2011 at 10:21 PM

This is similar to how I eat.

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39841 · April 18, 2011 at 8:55 PM

A lot of us are matching up our daily glucose intake to our presumed daily glycogen depletion. On a low-intensity day, this is about 130g of liver glycogen, but on a heavy weight-lifting day, this can easily swell to 3-400g without saturating total glycogen stores.

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24523 · April 18, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Good idea, but "a lot us" is a bit of a stretch!

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3521 · April 18, 2011 at 10:24 PM

So do we have to ingest 130 grams of glucose, either from carbohydrate or gluconeogenesis to meet daily liver glycogen needs.

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25467 · April 18, 2011 at 8:34 PM

i personally dont buy that line in the sand of 50 gms of carbs and ketosis. It needs to be measured. I have found many on a VLC doet not to be in ketosis to turn off gluconeogenesis and it was because of insulinogenic spikes in those who were leptin resistant. If your hormones are not optimal dont assume a thing. And leptin is the most critical one. That is one of the reasons I really give people a hard time about dairy who are not losing weight or hitting plateaus.

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93 · April 19, 2011 at 1:57 AM

@Dr K - Insulinogenic is not hyperglycemic as you know. If fasting insulin levels are low, then why is dairy an issue. You obviously have heard about Chris Voight and his all potato diet. He was eating tons of insulinogenic potatoes but because his fasting levels were low, he lost 21 lbs in 60 days. So can you explain your views on this. Specifically, since I do dairy, I am curious. Thanks!

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25467 · April 19, 2011 at 11:56 AM

AB.....my point is this. If you ask why your not getting results on this diet and you are eating insulinogenic foods you need to stop it. This is the likely reason why. Not everyone in the world has to worry about it. My responses were based upon the context it was asked in and then several posters immediately generalized my comments. I have always maintained on here context is critical. And this is true here as well. If you want optimal you should avoid suboptimal foods. Because you can tolerate it does not mean it is optimal. Testing tells you if you really can tolerate it.

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93 · April 19, 2011 at 1:51 AM

@Dr K - Insulinogenic is not hyperglycemic as you know. If fasting glucose levels are low, then why is dairy an issue. You obviously have heard about Chris Voight and his all potato diet. He was eating tons of insulinogenic potatoes but because his fasting levels were low, he lost 21 lbs in 60 days. So can you explain your views on this. Specifically, since I do dairy, I am curious. Thanks!

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