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Hack my food poisoning ....

by (8757)
Updated about 5 hours ago
Created July 28, 2011 at 4:42 PM

Saturday I did two things I never usually do when invited over for dinner,

1) I ate a plate they prepared especially for me and no one else ate (chicken breast stuffed with veggies in a roll-far as I could tell it was safe),

2) I ate a dessert, my first real big cheat, I ate 2 helpings too! (a passion fruit puddingy type thing with whipped sugared egg whites on top-sugar, raw egg whites and probably flour and lime-which am intolerant to-in the pudding)

So Since Sunday I've been terribly sick! Started feeling better Tuesday, but that didn't last long. I'm now day 5 with the same exact symptoms and immodium is doing absolutely NOTHING afer 5 days straight and several doses as instructed...usually this is the one thing I can count on to work for me.

We sent a sample to the lab and got rushed results back, the dr. said either a bacterial poisoning or parasites. He started me on a med yesterday for the parasite, only 6 pills in 3 days to be safe. Said if its bacterial we'll switch to some sort of antibiotic.

So lab results in hand, no parasites, no abnormal bacteria.

This morning I drank a glass of water with a big helping of charcoal (why I didn't remember it until now), and things have settled for now, breakfast is still with me. (I'm also doing bananas, eggs, home made chicken broth, pototes and cooked carrots, lots liquids-will add pumkin as posted on another hack question).

So, my question is, food poisoning? after 5 days would this not show in the test results?
Is this food poisoning? I have no fever but definitely feel the body chilling and heating as I fight this off. I definitely feel this is different than a bout from eating an intolerant food, usually clears up in 24-48 hours and with immodium.

I'm traveling on Tuesday and will be running around looking for housing, so I need to have this under control. What worries me mostly is that the immodium isn't working. I'm going to take the charcoal again this afternoon and see how things are tomorrow. I have no issue IF'ing, been pretty much doing that now, but am feeling very weak in general and trying to fight the dehydration.

Any other suggestions for getting this under control if a poisoning?

EDIT: Add symptoms: (this is going to be TMI!!) awoke early with liquid dirreaha, got worse as the day progressed with heavy feeling and severe pain in the lower part of intestines and (R) lower quadrant, right side back, relief after movement (this would happen before I needed to go running to bathroom all days). Uncontrollable dirreaha and naseau throughout the day, Monday awoke the same afternoon soreness in same area mentioned above, but not heavy nor additional liquid movement, Tuesday return to Sundays symptoms mid afternoon thru evening (was still eating broth and chicken, potatoes at this point), same Wednesday, same this morning. After the charcoal this morning, no additional movements. I still feel chilly, sweaty and need to hudle under the covers until I feel better. Now up and moving.

My husband has corrected me, there was one other person eating the same chicken I ate, she didn't have any issues from what we know. Everyone else also ate the dessert.

EDIT: Labs: done by light microscopy

consistency: loose and uniform

color brown

ph: 7.0

reducing sugars: neg

neutral fat: neg

mucus: neg

yeast: neg

blood: neg

leukocytes: none

bacterial flora: normal

intestional parasites: none observed in sample

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 10:46 PM

thanks Jesuisjuba!! maizena is from corn so I'm intolerant to that. But I'm drinking lots decafinated herbal tea and water. making a hot soup with ginger as well. I'll hope this passes soon, if not, I'll be back in the testing room!! Thanks for the help!! <3

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20519 · July 28, 2011 at 10:01 PM

ok got the reply "dude, sounds like she has a really shitty flu. if she isn't better by day 7 then she needs another round of screens run.. something may be brewing that wasn't caught." he asked about bites, i said no, he asked if you were healthy, i said yes, he said for you to be careful and hydrate hydrate hydrate. i also remembered the first time i was sick the woman who ran the hostel made me a drink of maizena (atole) with lemon and water. i think altogether it was 1c of liquid. it seriously helped calm my nausea.. kind of coats the stomach. feel better, k??

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19220 · July 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Hope you feel better soon.

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 8:17 PM

excellent links Matthew thank you!

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19220 · July 28, 2011 at 7:25 PM

It is usually to expensive to make it worth testing.

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19220 · July 28, 2011 at 7:24 PM

If it is a bacterial disease then most of the bugs making you ill remain firmly attached to the walls of your small intestine untill your immune system kills them off.

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19220 · July 28, 2011 at 7:21 PM

To find out you would have to have specific microbiological tests carried out on your stool sample. These are not usually carried out in non-serious cases, even in the UK, as treatment is the same for all of them.

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 7:15 PM

thanks Matt, I'm starting to think this is it! Just for future knowledge, how would they determine if its Salmonella, ecoli? via bloodwork?

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7540 · July 28, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Yeah, lots of liquids is a good idea (when I was sick I didn't do that and passed out when I got up to go downstairs...not good) I hope you feel better soon!

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 6:09 PM

thats kind of what hubby is saying, some sort of bug, flu.....I'll keep with the liquids in hope to flush it out. I tend to get hit harder than anyone when it comes to stomach issues....:)

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7540 · July 28, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Yes, is there any chance it's viral gastroenteritis? I've had that and the symptoms were basically exactly as you described (though a bit less severe, and I had a fever). It took about two weeks to clear up completely, but the worst was over in one week. If that's what it is, apparently taking Immodium (or similar) isn't a good idea because it can just prolong the course of the illness.

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 5:53 PM

no idea. doesnt look like these labs picked up much!

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 5:50 PM

had to look up both of those thing! No bites, no swelling anywhere. I'll post the actual lab results info in an edit see if that prompts anything

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2047 · July 28, 2011 at 5:22 PM

I have no answers, but I hope you get some and start feeling better soon.

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7540 · July 28, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Well it doesn't really sound like food poisoning but can you be more specific about your symptoms and when after the meal they appeared?

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19220 · July 28, 2011 at 7:12 PM

You have my sympathy.

From what you discribe as your symptoms it is most likely that you have gastroenteritis as a result of contaminated food. The chicken or raw egg could easily be reponsible or it could be contamination transfered by hand.

Your symptoms: Diarrhoea, Abdominal pain, Nausea, Chills and sweats are quite typical of bacterial food poisoning. It could be caused by one of several bacteria such as E. coli, Salmonella or Campylobacter. A virus such as norovirus could also be a cause. It is hard to diagnose any these using a light microscope.

Such cases of gasteroenteritis usually last somewhere between 4 to 7 days and in adults resolve without any treatment. Antibiotics are not generally of any help in healthy adults and will only kill all your normal gut bacteria.

Eat if you are hungry. Get lots of rest and drink plenty of water as you will be losing a lot. There is not much else you can do other than wait it out.

Any other causes such as parasites, or other known local causes where you live is something only your doctor can help you with.

From the UK National Health Service website:

Gastroenteritis - Symptoms

Gastroenteritis - Causes

Gastroenteritis - Treatment

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19220 · July 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Hope you feel better soon.

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19220 · July 28, 2011 at 7:24 PM

If it is a bacterial disease then most of the bugs making you ill remain firmly attached to the walls of your small intestine untill your immune system kills them off.

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19220 · July 28, 2011 at 7:25 PM

It is usually to expensive to make it worth testing.

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19220 · July 28, 2011 at 7:21 PM

To find out you would have to have specific microbiological tests carried out on your stool sample. These are not usually carried out in non-serious cases, even in the UK, as treatment is the same for all of them.

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 8:17 PM

excellent links Matthew thank you!

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 7:15 PM

thanks Matt, I'm starting to think this is it! Just for future knowledge, how would they determine if its Salmonella, ecoli? via bloodwork?

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20519 · July 28, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Kelly it really sounds like entamoeba histolytica. I had it twice in Central America but the TMI stool sample picked it up so they knew how to treat. Any weird bites on you? No chance of Chaga???s? Hmm..

I'm sending an email to a friend of mine who works with tropical diseases and see if I can get a response asap for you, will update this post as soon as I can. Be well and take care lady.

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 5:50 PM

had to look up both of those thing! No bites, no swelling anywhere. I'll post the actual lab results info in an edit see if that prompts anything

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20519 · July 28, 2011 at 10:01 PM

ok got the reply "dude, sounds like she has a really shitty flu. if she isn't better by day 7 then she needs another round of screens run.. something may be brewing that wasn't caught." he asked about bites, i said no, he asked if you were healthy, i said yes, he said for you to be careful and hydrate hydrate hydrate. i also remembered the first time i was sick the woman who ran the hostel made me a drink of maizena (atole) with lemon and water. i think altogether it was 1c of liquid. it seriously helped calm my nausea.. kind of coats the stomach. feel better, k??

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 10:46 PM

thanks Jesuisjuba!! maizena is from corn so I'm intolerant to that. But I'm drinking lots decafinated herbal tea and water. making a hot soup with ginger as well. I'll hope this passes soon, if not, I'll be back in the testing room!! Thanks for the help!! <3

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2825 · July 28, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Could it be a viral infection? Not sure if labs would pick that up...

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7540 · July 28, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Yeah, lots of liquids is a good idea (when I was sick I didn't do that and passed out when I got up to go downstairs...not good) I hope you feel better soon!

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 5:53 PM

no idea. doesnt look like these labs picked up much!

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7540 · July 28, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Yes, is there any chance it's viral gastroenteritis? I've had that and the symptoms were basically exactly as you described (though a bit less severe, and I had a fever). It took about two weeks to clear up completely, but the worst was over in one week. If that's what it is, apparently taking Immodium (or similar) isn't a good idea because it can just prolong the course of the illness.

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8757 · July 28, 2011 at 6:09 PM

thats kind of what hubby is saying, some sort of bug, flu.....I'll keep with the liquids in hope to flush it out. I tend to get hit harder than anyone when it comes to stomach issues....:)

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