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Stressed out??!

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Created August 12, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Hey everyone, I am a teen girl on the paleo diet, and have been on it for abut 4 months now. I am about 5'1 and 78-80 pounds. I'm not really trying to loose weight, unless you all think I should? I love eating whole, nutritious foods and I love the way I feel when I do. What I am stressed about is cheat meals. Sometimes, I just really crave something and really do want it! I know everyone says there is always a paleo option to satisfy your craving and blah blah blah, but I Reaallly want some Coldstone ice cream! Suturday was my nephews first birthday party and I have half a cupcake and half a piece of cake, which I consider to be a cheat. Me and my mom are going to a big shopping mall and they have a coldstone there. When I eat cheat meals, I never feel the side effects that some people mention they do, and I always make sure that the cheat fits into my macros. But will it throw me off the paleo track? I don't go wild when I cheat and crave more and more, the craving actually goes away for a while and I'm satisfied. Will it harm my body and cause weight gain? I know we will be walking around the mall a lot so I'm not too worried about gaining, but I just want to be sure it won't make me unhealthy, especially since I had a cheat meal on saturday. I always eat very healthy at home and when I go out, and i excersize almost everyday, but sometimes I really just want something really naughty! Please help me to decide!

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10 · August 13, 2013 at 2:51 AM

If you have an ice cream maker, it's definitely cheaper (and more fun!) to make it from a recipe. It's also nice to be able to choose your preferred amounts of sweeteners or add-ins. However, I have always loved and still love the So Delicious brand, it's just very pricy: http://sodeliciousdairyfree.com . Glad I could help!

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13 · August 12, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Thank you, your comment made me feel 100000 times better! Your right, I shouldn't stress too much about this stuff? Is the coconut milk ice cream sold in stores, or is it a recipe?

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11683 · August 12, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Sabertooth, are youkidding me?!! An 80-pound teenager worried about gaining is posting on here and you're guilting her about cheating??! This has eating disorder written all over it. Brianna, get some help - somethingfishy.org.

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1826 · August 12, 2013 at 8:39 PM

I'm not following what either of you are saying. From a mom's point of view, raising teens and observing lots of teen behavior, I think many teens, boys and girls, have eating disorders. Much more than when i was that age, 30 years ago. I don't think it's healthy to stress out so much over food, unless you have some serious health issues and this girl didn't mention any. Just IMHO.

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41312 · August 12, 2013 at 8:33 PM

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10480 · August 12, 2013 at 7:51 PM

+1 for balance, dear. Eating healthy and knowing when to look in shades of grey and when to look in black and white is something that takes time to develop. Especially for a teen girl. It is totally okay not to know when to "trust your gut" and when you should "follow the rules" because you're learning. That being said you absolutely do not need to lose weight, and should not stress about eating some unhealthy food sometimes, just because you enjoy it. I think Sabertooth has some great comments to think about. Best of luck!

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10480 · August 12, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Also cause THAT ISN'T WHAT NEWPALEON SAID.

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529 · August 12, 2013 at 7:44 PM

/ You might try making ice creams with raw milk cream & raw honey and find the process quite pleasurable. Is that worth the effort? Is it a "social" or "convenience"-based desire to cheat? // Without understanding the root of said worry, it will likely continue to be a worry, even if a decision is made one way or the other, especially because it seems like a genuine question.

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529 · August 12, 2013 at 7:40 PM

--diet, etc.? ) // (In general, level of consumption of processed foods, along with degree of sedentariness seem the most directly and closely correlated with ill health -- whether now or in the future. But, it is quite honestly possible that a human body, especially one <16, can handle some amount fairly alright. It is also possible the effects will manifest far later, or that your cheats are not very occasional and actually fairly frequent. And, it is also possible that the stressfulness, if extreme, will have worse effects than an occasional or semi-occasional cheat at the moment.)

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10480 · August 12, 2013 at 7:38 PM

+1 for balance.

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529 · August 12, 2013 at 7:35 PM

--is mild, from an energetic/emotional standpoint, & doesn't snowball. But, are you worried about deleterious effects to your health? Longevity? Feeling unpleasant in the present? How often are the cheats, and how stressful would going without be? // // In brief, **why** does cheating worry you, or which goals does it potentially impact? (e.g. Is energy very important to living well now, and living without specific cheats impacts mood/energy too negatively? Is it an unclear worry as to the ill effects of cheating "occasionally"? Does it require more research, or a deeper understanding of--

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529 · August 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM

While this is not an answer regarding cheating v. not cheating -- keep in mind that calories in, calories out is incomplete at best, and quite harmful, or misleading, at worst. // Thus, the main worries of processed cakes or ice creams might be the preservatives, derivatives with free glutamates, additives, and various other likely additives such as high fructose corn syrup/sucralose/sugars. (I.e. Exercise or no exercise is irrelevant to whether these will be harmful, and it will not mitigate the chemical impacts of additives on your body.) // That being said, it does seem that your cheating--

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112 · August 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Seriously, this person just suggested that eating 80% of a paleo diet, whatever the hell that actually is, is a baseline measurement of health. There is nothing, absolutely nothing backing that up yet it was suggested to a teenager to follow. That kind of thinking leads to disordered eating.

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112 · August 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM

And making unfounded statements implying that as long as you're at least 80/20 you'll be alright is not? The advice given on this site and the delusions that follow are dangerous. Where do people come up with this stuff?

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10480 · August 12, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Jesus Pumpernickel Christ, you're obnoxious.

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112 · August 12, 2013 at 7:07 PM

60-79% paleo you will most likely have T2 diabetes, 40-59% will result in coronary artery disease and sub 40% paleo will result in death. Consider weighing all of your food, then calculating the ratio of non-"paleo" to "paleo" food over the course of a week to know your percentage. In several years a blood test should be developed to determine paleo percentage so we can diagnose people with controlled acute vascular epedimelogical malignant arteriol neoplasty or CAVEMAN disease.

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251 · August 12, 2013 at 7:04 PM

We commented at the same time, so I'm glad you mentioned it :)

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251 · August 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Cheating shouldn't stress you out. If you want the ice cream, then eat it. Just don't indulge in the stuff all the time. Isn't there an 80/20 rule?? You can cheat 20% of the time? I'm not sure.

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10 · August 12, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Eat what makes you feel good. Don't stress about the little things, and definitely don't stress about your weight. I fell in love with Paleo because it gave me more energy, motivated me to exercise more, and it just made sense. And while I did find I lost some weight, that was never my reason for starting or continuing.

There are lots of voices and influences telling you and all of us young women that we have to look a certain way to be accepted or valued in this world. Don't buy it for a second. Love your body and all the wonderful qualities that make you who you are. If you ever need a kind reminder of that, beautyredefined.net is one of my favorite websites in the whole world.

Also, by all means enjoy your Coldstone's, but definitely give coconut milk ice cream a try!

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10 · August 13, 2013 at 2:51 AM

If you have an ice cream maker, it's definitely cheaper (and more fun!) to make it from a recipe. It's also nice to be able to choose your preferred amounts of sweeteners or add-ins. However, I have always loved and still love the So Delicious brand, it's just very pricy: http://sodeliciousdairyfree.com . Glad I could help!

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13 · August 12, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Thank you, your comment made me feel 100000 times better! Your right, I shouldn't stress too much about this stuff? Is the coconut milk ice cream sold in stores, or is it a recipe?

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1005 · August 13, 2013 at 4:18 AM

If you eat whole, real foods most of the time, don't get addicted to cheat treats (like I do :(), and don't get side effects from SAD food, I don't see any reason to stress about an occasional cheat treat. Just eat real, nutritious food the rest of the time and enjoy your occasional treats.

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1826 · August 12, 2013 at 7:00 PM

No, you def don't need to lose weight at 5"1 and 80 lbs. My teens (a girl and a boy) eat Paleo foods at home with a little bit of rice and lots of dairy. When they travel with their clubs or eat out with friends (2-3 meals per week) they eat whatever is available/ they want, pizza, subs, ice cream etc. They are both tall and slim with good muscle tone. As long as you are 80% Paleo overall, I would say you are fine.

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1826 · August 12, 2013 at 8:39 PM

I'm not following what either of you are saying. From a mom's point of view, raising teens and observing lots of teen behavior, I think many teens, boys and girls, have eating disorders. Much more than when i was that age, 30 years ago. I don't think it's healthy to stress out so much over food, unless you have some serious health issues and this girl didn't mention any. Just IMHO.

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10480 · August 12, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Also cause THAT ISN'T WHAT NEWPALEON SAID.

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10480 · August 12, 2013 at 7:38 PM

+1 for balance.

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112 · August 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Seriously, this person just suggested that eating 80% of a paleo diet, whatever the hell that actually is, is a baseline measurement of health. There is nothing, absolutely nothing backing that up yet it was suggested to a teenager to follow. That kind of thinking leads to disordered eating.

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112 · August 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM

And making unfounded statements implying that as long as you're at least 80/20 you'll be alright is not? The advice given on this site and the delusions that follow are dangerous. Where do people come up with this stuff?

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10480 · August 12, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Jesus Pumpernickel Christ, you're obnoxious.

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112 · August 12, 2013 at 7:07 PM

60-79% paleo you will most likely have T2 diabetes, 40-59% will result in coronary artery disease and sub 40% paleo will result in death. Consider weighing all of your food, then calculating the ratio of non-"paleo" to "paleo" food over the course of a week to know your percentage. In several years a blood test should be developed to determine paleo percentage so we can diagnose people with controlled acute vascular epedimelogical malignant arteriol neoplasty or CAVEMAN disease.

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251 · August 12, 2013 at 7:04 PM

We commented at the same time, so I'm glad you mentioned it :)

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112 · August 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM

There is no "paleo track" you need to follow and no "cheat meals." Stress is a known precursor to a number of degenerative diseases, and if "cheating" on a made-up diet causes you undo stress, than listen to your body and treat yourself every once in a while. Your cravings indicate your brain is attempting to satisfy a desire, whether physical or psychological. If you are eating a whole foods based, balanced diet that is low in sugar, oxidized fat and preservatives, you are following recommended dietary guidelines and will build a healthy foundation. There are no "cheats." There is building a healthy foundation, minimizing stress, and enjoying life. The paleo diet is destructive when followed religiously, and dangerous when followed blindly.

A healthy weight should be discussed with your healthcare provider.

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