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1 year paleo, 1 Whole30..raised LDL and total cholesterol!!

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so I've been paleo for a year and just completed a Whole30. My cholesterol has gone up from 196 to 210...LDL from 119 to 143! HELP!

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5 · February 17, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Then try to achieve levels of thyroid hormones including free t3 and free t4 not only in the normal range but optimal if you haven't done so. This may require increasing the dose of Tirosint, consuming more selenium, sunlight exposure and other things. A healthier option than Tirosint is Armour Thyroid.

Estrogen-progesterone imbalance with too much estrogenic activity increases “thyroid binding globulin”, too much of which is bad for you so you may need to correct that also.

The situation doesn't sound alarming but these are for the one inside you that wants to be on the safest side.

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1032 · February 12, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Why the downvote on my answer? If you disagree with what I said, you should have commented on it.

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455 · February 07, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Sounds like a lot of beef, have you thought about alternate sources of protein, or maybe cutting down on meat a bit? Give seafood a try or use a little more olive oil in place of coconut. Don't be afraid to get most of your calories from fat and drizzle the olive oil, that stuff is pretty darn good for your lipid profile. Avocados are great, good going there. Also, nice job on cutting out dairy. Good luck.

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0 · February 07, 2014 at 9:00 PM

cholesterol is not a dirty word. google 'the Cholesterol Myth"

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0 · February 07, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Low carb, protein at every meal. Fat in forms of coconut oil, olive oil, avocado, and beef. And I don't add fat to meals in excess.

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1032 · February 07, 2014 at 11:27 AM

What about a rough idea of macronutrient breakdown? High or low carb? Do you add a lot of fat to dishes? Lots of protein? Fat type and amount in particular seem to have direct effects of lipoproteins.

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198 · February 06, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Also, you shouldn't really be concerned unless your cholesterol is in like the 275 range.

Yeah, you might live longer and be healthier! The entire Cholesterol science is filled with BS. Many studies have shown, especially for older females that having a high level of TC is beneficial to a long healthy life.

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0 · February 17, 2014 at 10:57 AM

I do have hypothyroid controlled with Tirosint.

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5 · February 17, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Then try to achieve levels of thyroid hormones including free t3 and free t4 not only in the normal range but optimal if you haven't done so. This may require increasing the dose of Tirosint, consuming more selenium, sunlight exposure and other things. A healthier option than Tirosint is Armour Thyroid.

Estrogen-progesterone imbalance with too much estrogenic activity increases “thyroid binding globulin”, too much of which is bad for you so you may need to correct that also.

The situation doesn't sound alarming but these are for the one inside you that wants to be on the safest side.

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5 · February 16, 2014 at 9:05 AM

Your numbers aren't much worse but if we assume that the numbers are true averages then 2 things come to my mind:

1) Thyroid hormone problems, which may be caused by giving up iodised salt and not including enough iodine or maybe other factors as well in the diet. Thyroid hormonal activity regulates ldl-receptor activity.

2) You are one of the people that respond to dietary cholesterol with an increase in cholesterol numbers, but remember that this alone does not explain any worsening of the ratios and may in fact be protective as well because when lipoproteins carry more cholesterol, they are less likely to oxidize.

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15 · February 16, 2014 at 5:01 AM

Ryan 36 is partially correct. That 20% increases in LDL is responsible for the entirety of your TC increase. But that 20% could also be meaningless. You need cholesterol components to interpret your lipids correctly. So you're worrying over TC and LDL, which happen to move up due to statistical noise. But if the increase was accompanied by worsening TC/HDL or TG/HDL ratios, then we could tell something about your lipids. Based on what you disclosed, you can't. It's basically a stupid number that defies interpretation.

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4306 · February 12, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Tranquillo, those numbers are good.

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41442 · February 12, 2014 at 2:02 PM

As Ryan pointed out, it's not a significant increase. Serum lipid measurements are quite imprecise and vary by a host of variables, some of which have no bearing on your overall health status.

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0 · February 07, 2014 at 10:38 AM

I'm lactose intolerant if that gives you an idea. And all our meat is grass fed and local.

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0 · February 07, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Low carb, protein at every meal. Fat in forms of coconut oil, olive oil, avocado, and beef. And I don't add fat to meals in excess.

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1032 · February 07, 2014 at 11:27 AM

What about a rough idea of macronutrient breakdown? High or low carb? Do you add a lot of fat to dishes? Lots of protein? Fat type and amount in particular seem to have direct effects of lipoproteins.

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455 · February 07, 2014 at 2:51 AM

Ok what have you been eating? It's not the same to eat liver fried in butter with sweet potatoes fries every day than to eat steamed pollock with broccolli and zucchini drizzled with olive oil. Give us a little more detail so we may provide further assistance.

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1032 · February 12, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Why the downvote on my answer? If you disagree with what I said, you should have commented on it.

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1032 · February 06, 2014 at 10:25 PM

Don't worry. Your increase in LDL is within the standard error (+/-35mg/dL) of the test. Here is a quote from Chris Masterjohn when he did a podcast with Chris Kresser:

"And these are basic answers, we can expect a single person to have a standard deviation in their total cholesterol of about 17 mg/dl. Now what does this mean, well it means that if we haven’t done anything to assess for example, my individual variation over time, we should assume that if you measured my cholesterol 100 times you’d find some true mean, some true average cholesterol level. But we could expect without any changes it to go up about 2 standard deviations so about 35 mg/dl, or down about 35 mg/dl for no reason at all."

Also, you shouldn't really be concerned unless your cholesterol is in like the 275 range. Then you might suspect something isn't quite right. The three-part podcast series is great and should allay some of your fears:

http://chriskresser.com/the-healthy-skeptic-podcast-episode-11

http://chriskresser.com/episode-16-chris-masterjohn-on-cholesterol-heart-disease-part-2http://chriskresser.com/chris-masterjohn-on-cholesterol-and-heart-disease-part-3

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0 · February 07, 2014 at 9:00 PM

cholesterol is not a dirty word. google 'the Cholesterol Myth"

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198 · February 06, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Also, you shouldn't really be concerned unless your cholesterol is in like the 275 range.

Yeah, you might live longer and be healthier! The entire Cholesterol science is filled with BS. Many studies have shown, especially for older females that having a high level of TC is beneficial to a long healthy life.

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