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Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (HCM), calcified plaques, cholesterol and statins?

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Created October 30, 2013 at 5:16 AM

Hi everyone,

I would greatly appreciate help on this topic as it is very personal and important to me.

My father has HCM and has a mild build up of calcified plaques (Although the last scan was 8 years ago, he's going to re-test). He is 59 years old and has never had a heart-attack or even chest pains etc. I have gotten him to eat a fairly paleo-ish diet, eliminating grains and most dairy for the most part, he will still have some bread every once in a while.

From what I understand HCM is a when the heart muscle becomes to thick and cuts off the blood flow to the heart. I cannot see what cholesterol has to do with this disease, or even how a cardiologist could think that cholesterol reduction could benefit this disease, but somehow his Dr. does.

However, his cardiologist has him on a 10mg statin to reduce his cholesterol in the hopes that it will improve his risk factor for a heart attack. His total cholesterol is 144, HDL 50, LDL 60, Trigs 44. His Trig to HDL ratio is .88 which I think is great, however, he still feels that he should take the statin bc his doc. says that he's been doing well with it and they don't want to start tinkering with a "good thing".

Is there any research specifically on HCM and the efficacy of a statin (or lack thereof)? Or information about how to deal with HCM and mildly calcified plaques without obstruction?

I have heard so much about the downside to statins and low cholesterol that I want to help him get off the statins and get his cholesterol to a healthy level, i.e. HDL above 70, Trigs below 70, Total Chol around 200-ish.

Are there any paleo friendly approaches, besides eating a clean diet that can help someone with HCM to prevent the heart muscle from thickening? Certain supplements, specialized workouts? The only supplement I have given him so far is D3 (5000 IU), which I just got him today.

I have heard about Dr. William Davis' old book, Track Your Plaque and wanted to know if anyone had any info on how relevant it would be to this situation.

I truly appreciate you taking the time to read this and look forward to any advice the community has that could help my father.

All the best!

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5201 · October 31, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Just a cursory search on google shows not very convincing results with statins and HCM, but that is something for your father and his physician to discuss.This forum discussion is a little old but interesting enough to read.

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41471 · October 31, 2013 at 12:29 AM

Could excessively elevate, not would. Get your scientific language right. :)

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Look into l-carnitine supplements. There are several case studies using this supplement along with dietary changes and there has been great improvement in patients with HCM.

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15 · October 30, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Parathyroid hormone (PTH) is involved in calcification. Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy is sometimes caused by elevated PTH. PTH rises on a high-phosphate low-calcium diet. A paleo diet with lots of meat (high amounts of phosphate) and no dairy (lack of calcium) would excessively elevate PTH and thus worsen cardiomyopathy and the ectopic calcification. I'd recommend upping dairy and limiting phosphate consumption, in addition with Vitamin K and modest Vitamin D. No Vitamin D supplementation without Vitamin K as it might worsen calcification.

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41471 · October 31, 2013 at 12:29 AM

Could excessively elevate, not would. Get your scientific language right. :)

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0 · October 30, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Enter your answer here... @shelzi3

Hi, I am a nurse in the Cardiology department of a large hospital in Kansas City. Several of our cardiologists have been taking their patients off statins and having them use Red Rice Yeast instead. Multiple studies have shown that red rice yeast works as well as statins, without the nasty side affects.

Several of our cardiologists swear by it. You might want to look into it and maybe have your father ask his doctor if this might be a good option for him. It is natural, not terribly expensive and seems to work well for many patients.

Good luck! Hope this helps

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17136 · October 30, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Other than D3, the only thing I can think of is vitamin K and magnesium to help remove some of the calcium. Whether it will get rid of it from the plaques is a good question.

Not crazy about the statin use there and the damage it's causing; if that's not going to change, then be sure he gets tons of CoQ10.

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