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Why are we rushing to close questions?

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Created November 04, 2012 at 4:44 PM

There are overt troll questions that range from absurd to offensive and should be closed, and then there are controversial questions (eg paleo-critical) that also are closed but perhaps shouldn't be.

I think particularly for paleo-critical questions more of an effort should be made to answer them instead of rushing to close otherwise this community risks being characterised as dogmatic and insular.

An example of a recently closed question (now re-opened) that I would argue was prematurely closed: Why cant Humans Evolve to eat Grains?

Do you think the closing of questions is often too rushed?

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10919 · November 16, 2012 at 9:36 AM

LOL you changed my answer??!!!! This is past comical to pathetic status.

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78422 · November 16, 2012 at 7:16 AM

That's very helpful indeed..

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78422 · November 16, 2012 at 7:07 AM

Don't you have anything else better to do than hijack my questions? Why not apply some of that demonstrably fearsome intellect towards conceiving some of your own!

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1021 · November 15, 2012 at 11:01 PM

harry's at it again!

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10490 · November 15, 2012 at 10:47 PM

I cannot believe you would outright edit someone else's answer to something completely different than their intention! That is incredibly disrespectful, even for you. Did you not see the box on the right? That thing about respecting the author's intent is for reals.

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41452 · November 15, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Harry, just stop. Seriously.

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10490 · November 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Rock it, ARoz. There are not enough likes per day to like you enough.

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10490 · November 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Since you're clearly more interested in trolling than helping anyone, you should probably at least try to be funny about it. At least some people like funny trolls - no one likes serious contemptuous smarmy trolls.

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10919 · November 15, 2012 at 12:46 PM

The edit is there so you can clarify questions in case people didn't understand the question. Taking the word "The" out of a title doesn't fit within those parameters. Quit justifying your abuse of the format.

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78422 · November 15, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Is there a rule against seeking to draw attention on an issue one considers important? Isn't that the whole premise of asking questions? Having said that there are times when one may want to revisit a question and clean it up.

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78422 · November 15, 2012 at 12:35 PM

But is it in the rules Ashley? :)

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78422 · November 14, 2012 at 10:52 AM

seeing as you chose to bring it up: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120502123433.htm

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78422 · November 14, 2012 at 10:45 AM

LLM, can't say I'll be sad to see you go. Your down/up-voting ratio (>20%) speaks volumes about where you're coming from.

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10490 · November 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM

That was close by the administrator - not voted to close by 5 of the community. I had a really good answer to your question going that I couldn't post! I agree on that one.

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10490 · November 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Nooo Mayo! Don't leave me! I agree with your point though - we all know what he's really talking about.

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78422 · November 13, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Or are you going to change your handle again and hope people don't put 2 and 2 together?

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78422 · November 13, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Well Harry I think the evidence speaks for itself. People have even posted questions on your last closed bacon thread about you bumping it everyday. I'm not the only one who has noticed a certain level of OCD on the subject. Maybe you should take the hint.

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78422 · November 13, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Harry - Anyone who looks at your posts can see the anti-bacon fetish and since getting slapped you've been posting metas like this trying to tell people what they should and shouldn't vote for. I closed all my questions and deleted most of my answers and as soon as I'm out of points I'll be gone. Because people like you with no background, no N=1 experience who constantly attack weird, little points with evangelical irrationality. It doesn't matter what post you are pretending to be worried about, we all know where this is coming from.

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78422 · November 13, 2012 at 9:03 AM

Duplicates of duplicates of duplicates? That's awe-inspiring.

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78422 · November 13, 2012 at 8:53 AM

My issue was not with the question about "blowjobs", it was regarding the question on evolving to eat grains - as specified. Either you pretend to be stupid or you are .. not pretending. If its the former the its very obvious you are trolling and if its the latter then you may not understand what I'm talking about, in which case I'll step aside from your fumbling, bumbling and mumbling.

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98 · November 13, 2012 at 7:57 AM

Sara, loads of questions has been asked before. About 50% of the questions seem to be about 'I'm 200 pounds and i need to loose weight asap'.

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78422 · November 13, 2012 at 7:31 AM

Harry is talking about his Bacon Bore posts. 5 in one day, all preaching about bacon. Several were closed by vote by people including me, Luckie and others. They WERE duplicates, even the first one. The next several were duplicates of duplicates of duplicates. Really getting a new Handle hasn't made these questions less boring.

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41452 · November 05, 2012 at 11:37 AM

I guess I haven't studied patterns of thread closing as close as you have, Harry. :) Do I exhibit a pattern in my votes to close?

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41452 · November 05, 2012 at 11:35 AM

It might have been trollish, but there's a lot of trollish threads that don't get closed. There's a lot of inane threads that don't get closed too. At the same time, I think you could have a thoughtful discussion of grains, diet, and evolution even if it was started as a dig against paleo.

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7275 · November 05, 2012 at 4:17 AM

I think it's funny that the assumption is that the people who voted to close it are part of the low-carb, anti-grain party line.

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7275 · November 05, 2012 at 4:15 AM

Meh, it seemed trollish, what with the "I think most of you are wrong" and lack of thoughtful commentary. And as one of the answerers pointed out, the question has been asked before: this was not a nuanced asking, in my opinion. But it's cool if people want it open to discuss it. That's why the modding works the way it does here. :)

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78422 · November 05, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Yes, it takes 5 to close Matt. And your contention would hold true were it not for the pattern behind who votes to close.

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41452 · November 05, 2012 at 12:44 AM

It takes 5 to close a question, hardly something that can be accomplished by a "little Hitler". (Congrats on completely neutering any comparison to Hitler...)

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7275 · November 05, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Also, saying "I think most of you are wrong." also seems like trolling, to me.

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10994 · November 04, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Idk, semen drinking seems like a troll question to me. It's obviously paleo...

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7275 · November 04, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Rene, I'm guessing it's because not as many people (with the ability to vote to close) are looking at the magnesium question. I don't expect many people go through all the questions looking for ones to close, but instead vote to close if they come across something among the questions that interest them. Though I do also suspect that something that is both a duplicate and also subjective/argumentative/risque would be more likely to be closed down than something that is a duplicate but not in any way controversial.

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11683 · November 04, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Sarah, I didn't see anyone close today's question about magnesium for constipation, which also has been asked and answered many times before.

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2949 · November 04, 2012 at 6:09 PM

So you're saying people on PH are not only jerks for closing down questions without a good reason, but also humorless bores?

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7275 · November 04, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Oh, I was wrong: well, I think that's why *I* voted to close it. It gets asked a lot. But I think the first answer (even though it was in jest or in some weird retaliation of a perceived troll) gives a good example of why some questions get closed.

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7275 · November 04, 2012 at 5:42 PM

I think the semen one was closed because for being a duplicate.

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2949 · November 04, 2012 at 5:19 PM

If you think the drinking semen isn't trolling, you haven't been long on the internet...

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11683 · November 04, 2012 at 5:06 PM

I'm guessing it was the is-spunk-Paleo one. I also thought it was a legit question and shouldn't have been closed.

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4218 · November 04, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Just curious if there are any particular questions you've seen closed lately that sparked this one.

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1816 · November 13, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I posted a question about how others got through early labor (0-4 cm before you go to the hospital) and it was closed down because I needed to be "focusing on my baby."

I was home for another 30 hours after that before I was progressed enough to go to the hospital. And for what it's worth, some people here saw my post and emailed me some great resources that really helped me through my incredibly slow labor.

I thought it was quite silly to assume that you have to go in a cave and not communicate during early labor. Then again, it was a man who closed the question... so he probably honestly just didn't know any better.

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10490 · November 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM

That was close by the administrator - not voted to close by 5 of the community. I had a really good answer to your question going that I couldn't post! I agree on that one.

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10919 · November 15, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Quit Micro-editing posts just to get them at the top. It's incredibly transparent and against the spirit of this website.

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10919 · November 15, 2012 at 12:46 PM

The edit is there so you can clarify questions in case people didn't understand the question. Taking the word "The" out of a title doesn't fit within those parameters. Quit justifying your abuse of the format.

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41452 · November 15, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Harry, just stop. Seriously.

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78422 · November 15, 2012 at 12:35 PM

But is it in the rules Ashley? :)

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78422 · November 15, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Is there a rule against seeking to draw attention on an issue one considers important? Isn't that the whole premise of asking questions? Having said that there are times when one may want to revisit a question and clean it up.

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10490 · November 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Rock it, ARoz. There are not enough likes per day to like you enough.

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1021 · November 15, 2012 at 11:01 PM

harry's at it again!

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10919 · November 16, 2012 at 9:36 AM

LOL you changed my answer??!!!! This is past comical to pathetic status.

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78422 · November 16, 2012 at 7:07 AM

Don't you have anything else better to do than hijack my questions? Why not apply some of that demonstrably fearsome intellect towards conceiving some of your own!

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10490 · November 15, 2012 at 10:47 PM

I cannot believe you would outright edit someone else's answer to something completely different than their intention! That is incredibly disrespectful, even for you. Did you not see the box on the right? That thing about respecting the author's intent is for reals.

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78422 · November 13, 2012 at 7:29 AM

Yes. Lets talk about this. The community voted to close 3 of FIVE questions Harry posted about how deadly bacon was for our health. All 5 questions were duplicates.

Now, for those of us who voted to close, he follows us around -1 all of our comments and voting to close questions, every question, no matter how obviously Paleo it is.

I'm sorry Harry but questions about Blow Jobs and fetishes (like your anti-bacon fetish) are gonna get closed.

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78422 · November 13, 2012 at 8:53 AM

My issue was not with the question about "blowjobs", it was regarding the question on evolving to eat grains - as specified. Either you pretend to be stupid or you are .. not pretending. If its the former the its very obvious you are trolling and if its the latter then you may not understand what I'm talking about, in which case I'll step aside from your fumbling, bumbling and mumbling.

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78422 · November 14, 2012 at 10:45 AM

LLM, can't say I'll be sad to see you go. Your down/up-voting ratio (>20%) speaks volumes about where you're coming from.

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78422 · November 13, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Harry - Anyone who looks at your posts can see the anti-bacon fetish and since getting slapped you've been posting metas like this trying to tell people what they should and shouldn't vote for. I closed all my questions and deleted most of my answers and as soon as I'm out of points I'll be gone. Because people like you with no background, no N=1 experience who constantly attack weird, little points with evangelical irrationality. It doesn't matter what post you are pretending to be worried about, we all know where this is coming from.

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10490 · November 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Since you're clearly more interested in trolling than helping anyone, you should probably at least try to be funny about it. At least some people like funny trolls - no one likes serious contemptuous smarmy trolls.

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10490 · November 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Nooo Mayo! Don't leave me! I agree with your point though - we all know what he's really talking about.

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41452 · November 05, 2012 at 1:05 AM

I see no reason why the "Why cant Humans Evolve to eat Grains?" question was closed. The reason stated was "Not a real question", but it seemed people didn't like it because it was paleo critical.

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7275 · November 05, 2012 at 4:15 AM

Meh, it seemed trollish, what with the "I think most of you are wrong" and lack of thoughtful commentary. And as one of the answerers pointed out, the question has been asked before: this was not a nuanced asking, in my opinion. But it's cool if people want it open to discuss it. That's why the modding works the way it does here. :)

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41452 · November 05, 2012 at 11:35 AM

It might have been trollish, but there's a lot of trollish threads that don't get closed. There's a lot of inane threads that don't get closed too. At the same time, I think you could have a thoughtful discussion of grains, diet, and evolution even if it was started as a dig against paleo.

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98 · November 13, 2012 at 7:57 AM

Sara, loads of questions has been asked before. About 50% of the questions seem to be about 'I'm 200 pounds and i need to loose weight asap'.

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2949 · November 04, 2012 at 5:18 PM

It's typical of these types of sites: group think takes over, and little hitlers who have risen to their position by whoring on that get all the power. They are in the right because there's no accountability, or need to justify their actions. The laughable "reasons" given don't count - "not a real question" as a close reason stinks, when half the questions on the site aren't questions but remain open.

I just don't get involved in the bs politics here or elsewhere so it doesn't impact my blood pressure. There's a saying that university politics are so brutal because there's so little at stake. I think that also applies to internet sites.

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41452 · November 05, 2012 at 12:44 AM

It takes 5 to close a question, hardly something that can be accomplished by a "little Hitler". (Congrats on completely neutering any comparison to Hitler...)

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78422 · November 05, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Yes, it takes 5 to close Matt. And your contention would hold true were it not for the pattern behind who votes to close.

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7275 · November 05, 2012 at 4:17 AM

I think it's funny that the assumption is that the people who voted to close it are part of the low-carb, anti-grain party line.

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41452 · November 05, 2012 at 11:37 AM

I guess I haven't studied patterns of thread closing as close as you have, Harry. :) Do I exhibit a pattern in my votes to close?

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40 · November 04, 2012 at 5:20 PM

I think there is a book about baking with semen. I also think it is legit...

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78422 · November 16, 2012 at 7:16 AM

That's very helpful indeed..

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11254 · November 13, 2012 at 8:06 PM

I've seen a few (and I mean a few and I have been here for a while) that I would have liked to stay open. The last one was a spirituality question that would have probably generated some arguments, but it would have been nice to see what more people would say. Further in the past I've seen stuff closed because someone felt the questioner needed to see a doctor. I think 'see a doctor' is a legit thing to say, but not a reason to shut down conversation.

I am, however going to pay more attention in future. It appears I can vote to close, and if what LikesLardinMayo says is true, I will happily vote to close such annoyances.

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