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by 952 · September 17, 2014 at 9:51 PM

I have bought a proper chicken broth by Three Stone Hearth made of chicken carcasses, heads and feet. It is awesome, but I am trying to find some good recipes aside form just microwaving and drinking it, but all I can find is "how to make your... (more)

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by 0 · July 21, 2014 at 10:00 AM

So I tend to bake lots of meat at once and then freeze it for later. However, before freezing, I put the baked meat in the fridge for a while. After that, I always find the liquid has jelled into what seems like gelatin. Would eating that be... (more)

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raydawg 0 · July 21, 2014 at 10:00 AM

I'm sure it's fine, though the overly brown bits may contain too many AGEs, it's not necessarily the case that exogenous AGEs are as dangerous as endogenous ones. Probably no worse, socially, that licking the plate, but from a health point of... (more)

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by 8057 · July 17, 2014 at 3:39 PM

I was just diagnosed with "solar purpura", also known as "actinic purpura" or (ugh) "senile purpura". This is bleeding under the skin on the forearms, especially my left forearm. It's related to damaged collagen, primarily from sun exposure... (more)

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moors 0 · July 16, 2014 at 8:25 AM

Maybe you can give a serious try to autoimmune protocol:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20477126http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14646381

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by 0 · May 06, 2014 at 4:58 AM

Olympic lifting 4x/week at 630am (moderate; still learning, its not like 100+ lb weights). My goal is to lean out, and I've been taking up a few supplements to aid the fat loss. I'm just unsure if it's unnecessary? The thing is; I'm also... (more)

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pone 0 · May 06, 2014 at 4:51 AM

The evidence that Glutamine and BCAA build muscle is poor. Numerous studies show no difference between placebo and those substances. There is better evidence that these substance prevent you from *losing* muscle during a diet, or... (more)

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by 10984 · March 22, 2014 at 12:39 PM

It seems to be well established that degradation of collagen can facilitate disease and I don't think anyone here will dispute that (degradation of the collagen in your gums would result in periodontal disease for example), but could... (more)

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missmiddlemarch 0 · March 22, 2014 at 6:23 AM

Worried about collagen degradation? Bone broth is your panacea.

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by 572 · April 06, 2014 at 5:57 AM

I don't make bone broth and ran across this supplement recently. I keep meaning to try to make it, but frankly, the thought of it isn't pleasant to me although I do like homemade soup. For some reason the thought of bone broth makes me lose my... (more)

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jakeishere2help 0 · April 06, 2014 at 5:57 AM

Hey Deborah! Its Jake here again. I liked the product by collagen by youth theory, and since have tried the great lakes green kind ONLY hydro-isolate other wise it could go badly... And, I have tried Nows brand of collagen as well. Now's is the... (more)

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by 5 · September 16, 2014 at 8:12 PM

There seem to be two schools of thought on this. Ray Peat suggests taking with food, especially with a meal containing muscle meat, to balance out the amino acids. Others recommend taking on an empty stomach which supposedly makes the collagen... (more)

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paleo12 0 · August 03, 2013 at 10:40 PM

I had some gelatin in my elderberry/red raspberry tea this morning. I also put some coconut sugar in it for carbs and then worked out. So that's close to an empty stomach without food. I felt great. I love the way gelatin makes me feel, so... (more)

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by 5 · September 16, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Hi, Lately I have had some problems with my knees and I am thinking about getting? I've read you have to take hydrolized collagen, preferably from grasfed animals. I have a couple of questions Has anyone tried Great Lakes Hydrolized... (more)

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Robert_13 0 · June 19, 2013 at 12:24 PM

i've had great relief from digestive issues using the jelly like thick broth from lamb/beef bones, I find it most effective when I have some everyday before/during eating, the watery stuff (the 2nd batch) doesn't work as well i think that the... (more)

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by 5 · September 16, 2014 at 8:06 PM

First post, long time avid reader. After a few years on the weights and in really good shape I decided to give crossfit a try and I believe I over did it. I'm 99% sure I've developed costochondritis in the left side of my sternum/chest. After a... (more)

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Elena_5 0 · June 27, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Sorry, buddy, the only thing that ever cured my incidences of costochondritus was time and patience. Take it easy for a week or two - like, seriously easy, don't exercise intensely at all - and it should go away. If it doesn't might be something... (more)

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by 743 · September 16, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Hello, paleo-folks! I've been pretty strict with paleo for the last year, and dabbled with it for 1-2 years prior. Before high school, I was an inactive, obese kid who's only pleasure in life was to eat junk food and play videogames. When high... (more)

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Morrigan_1 0 · February 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Don't fast, that's not gonna help anything. There's nothing positive about fasting, it's just a myth. Without being any expert on joint disorders, I would say go for a really clean antiinflammatory diet. get your vit D level checked. avoid... (more)

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by 3422 · September 16, 2014 at 8:02 PM

I've been working on a torn meniscus for a bit now. Things are going pretty well, but I still relapse if I slack on the exercises. I'm wondering if I should be specifically timing my bone broth and collagen intake to maximize their therapeutic... (more)

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Eugenia 0 · February 02, 2013 at 9:52 PM

I don't think you should be timing them, really. This is the regiment I followed for a month when I fell and hurt my knee: Bone broth, 1 cup a day Collagen types I and III (1x a day) Collagen type II (5-6 hours apart from the other collage... (more)

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by 50 · September 16, 2014 at 8:02 PM

I'm having surgery tomorrow, and want to eat some beef stock post surgery to help healing. But I'm traveling, and don't have access to my normal bones. I also left my collagen powder at home. I bought some gluten free grocery store beef stock. Is... (more)

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jake3_14 0 · January 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM

If the store-bought stock is a thin liquid at refrigerator temperature, the collagen-forming compounds have been removed.

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by 3422 · September 16, 2014 at 7:59 PM

I've been using collagen, I'd like to try some bone broth. I have years of kitchen experience, so a recipe is not exactly what I'm looking for. Specifically, how much raw material will yield how many servings? Is the cost of making your own bone... (more)

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NudgeWink 0 · December 11, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Top tip: You can bring the (already low) cost of making bone broth down further whatever your chosen ratios, by saving all your vege and herb scraps, skins, peel and trimmings in a freezer bag, instead of using whole veges as "ingredients". It... (more)

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by 5 · September 16, 2014 at 7:59 PM

I see many people here recommending Great Lakes Gelatin, but how do you take it? I personally measure 10 grams of regular supermarket gelatin and put the powder (sand-sized particles) in cold water and drink it that way, but is that the best way... (more)

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Joyous 0 · December 07, 2012 at 8:10 PM

There are different suggestions on the can, and the cold-water one is one of them. You're right, it's not very palatable. I sometimes add it to smoothies or other foods (especially when slow-cooking). I also use hot water and may add some salt or... (more)

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by 25 · September 16, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Howdy all, young adult male here looking to reverse the most harmful effects of circumcision through "foreskin restoration". Basically, the foreskin is composed of an inner layer of highly sensitive skin (similar to that which makes up eyelids)... (more)

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Varelse 0 · August 27, 2012 at 3:13 AM

So I'm going to keep my lulz in the comments and give you the best, real answer I can come up with. Gelatin can be used to make your own fruit-juice Jell-o or added to bone broth, yeah. But I think pretty much anything ladies use to try and... (more)

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by 70 · September 16, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Ascorbic acid's primary role is as a cofactor in the hydroxylation reaction of proline and lysine for the production of collagen. "Proline hydroxylation requires ascorbic acid (vitamin C). The most obvious, first effects (gingival and hair... (more)

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AStar 0 · May 25, 2012 at 5:14 PM

From a quick look through your wikipedia link, I don't think so. The addition of the hydroxyl group to the proline is a post translational modification done by prolyl hydroxylase. This step occurs after the protein synthesis. The vitamin c is... (more)

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by 405 · September 16, 2014 at 7:44 PM

I was thinking about this earlier while thinking about menudo as I was munching on a piece of oxtail. When I tried to make bone broth, it pretty much failed, even though I used cartilage-y pieces of bone. The broth wasn't gelatinous at all. But... (more)

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Kamal 0 · May 05, 2012 at 2:25 PM

I don't drink bone broth anymore. Instead, I eat tendon pho. Why? Laziness! I'm too lazy to make batches regularly, and it smells funky to me, even laced with cooking veggie smells. Tendon, along with meat on the bone, seems like it would... (more)

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by 952 · September 16, 2014 at 7:41 PM

Did anybody use try it?

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Jeff__1 0 · March 21, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I use Great lakes gelatin (unflavored) and really like it. There are a few others on this site that do as well.

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by 1300 · September 16, 2014 at 7:37 PM

Is the collagen in beef heart and other high food sources going to simply get broken down as proteins do when ingested or is that collagen going to have therapeutic effects AS collagen in the body? I read both sides of this from doctors and... (more)

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Travis_Culp 0 · January 29, 2012 at 10:04 PM

I think the idea is that with the metabolism of collagen-rich flesh you're going to be ingesting a much higher proportion of glycine and proline, which could then promote collagen synthesis. I don't believe that the body makes use of intact... (more)

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by 134 · September 16, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Ok. Not the most critical problem in the universe, but here goes. Lot's of health issues have improved with the paleo diet, but lately my skin is really losing it's elasticity - which I think is due to losing collagen, but correct me if I'm... (more)

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Dragonfly 0 · January 10, 2012 at 3:16 PM

I eat 50-60% fat. I keep my Vitamin D level around 80 ng/ml. In addition to regular gelatin, I take supplemental Zinc Picolinate (50 mg), Vitamin C 2000 mg and Vitamin E (400 IU). These have made a HUGE difference! My skin is looking younger,... (more)

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by 114 · September 16, 2014 at 7:31 PM

hi. i am interested in building stronger joints. i currently weight train daily and consume1+gr. of vit c+lots of protein and fat on a vlc diet. how can i increase joint health?i often experience cracking joints and think something can't be right... (more)

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Jeff__1 0 · October 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM

This gelatin works great as a supplement, I think a few people on here use it (including myself). http://www.greatlakesgelatin.com/consumer/index.php Also, making your own bone broths should help things too. (more)

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by 15226 · September 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Hi, what is the relationship between homocysteine levels and collagen synthesis? Dr Emily Deans wrote about it in her blog and it made me wanna know more. This first paper seems to support her idea that it causes a reduction in collagen while the... (more)

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Annie 0 · December 04, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Unfiltered coffee raises homocysteine levels. Stress can raise homocysteine levels. Some studies have shown that women's homocysteine levels fluctuate throughout the menstrual cycle. Anxiety before the blood draw is enough to make the level... (more)

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by 78417 · September 16, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Hi all. My question is whether there is a significant amount of PUFAs, et.al. in animal collagen? Specifically pig and chicken skin/cartilage. I have easy access to lots of this substance but am wondering if it is worth the potential detriments to... (more)

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Kamal 0 · April 19, 2011 at 11:13 PM

Short answer, yes. (PUFA in skin, not collagen) Skin has lots of omega-6. When supplement companies make gelatin/collagen supplements, they extract the protein out of the mix and make it into a powder. I don't see the need to consume one ounce... (more)