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EDITED: I have bronchitis and was prescribed antibiotics, steroids, and an inhaler! What are the negatives and positives?

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I have bronchitis and was prescribed antibiotics, steroids, and an inhaler! What do I do?!

I really dont want to take the antibiotics....I know they do more harm than good (destroying gut flora/causing resistant bacterias) What about the steroids/inhaler? Do they cause any super negative effects?

I guess the real question is what are the negatives and positives of taking these all at once? Ive heard of people eating organ meats and being super chill instead of taking their antibiotics and recovering just the same. Opinions? Techniques?

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134 · September 03, 2013 at 3:45 AM

I could not find any source to support that statement.

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1683 · January 05, 2013 at 3:56 PM

I was required to have a note from a Doctor in order to not get penalized for my absence in class. If you were to read the question properly I asked how destructive taking all 3 together would be...not that I wasnt going to take them. More often than not antibiotics are over prescribed because that is all a doctor's patient wants because they believe it to be a "quick fix." As a general rule, if I can avoid taking antibiotics I do. Don't answer a question with a question...especially when the question is a year old. Its useless and contributes nothing to the thread.

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2765 · February 08, 2012 at 7:06 PM

we DO recover from the side effects of a short run of antibiotics.

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2765 · February 08, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Not destroying the natural flora? Now there is the rub. Antibiotics are going to kill those too. If your diet will allow it, yogurt is a good replacement. I know that for women, yogurt in the bath helps with yeast problems that can develop from using antibiotics. Tea tree oil based soap like choppers bodybuilder's body wash is also a good way to help with yeast problems too... but that's the problem with any medication - even the natural ones, they do have side effects. And that's the wonderful thing about the human body, it's resiliance...sometimes we have to use medications but we DO

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1683 · February 04, 2012 at 6:16 PM

i see your point @Andy Welch and I see what Korion is saying. My bronchitis isnt a full blown case of it. My doc said (after my x-ray) was that she saw some inflammation in my chest and she believes I have mild bronchitis...Ive been "sick" for 3ish weeks. All while continuing to work out, eat normally, and go to classes. Ive just been super tired and cough at night. My blood is out for a Mono test. I really hate taking drugs. I dont take them if Ive caught a cold/have a headache/have muscle aches so how do I go about taking the antibiotics without destroying my good gut flora? Thoughts?

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2765 · February 04, 2012 at 5:12 PM

When they are indicated, they should be used. And I seldom advocate using the prophylacticly, but in the case of bronchitis, I always do. There is fluid building in the lungs and it is a warm, wet, bacterial growth medium...stop it before it starts. Again, to do otherwise is idiocy. I'm glad everyone "knows" so much. Practice medicine for 23 years then come tell me again what you "know".

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8933 · February 04, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Chilling + organ meats is definitely a good idea. It's important you keep stress as low as possible so your body recovers well. And vitamin D is a must.

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8933 · February 04, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Good point about vitamin C and A in addition to vitamin D. All helped me so much when starting paleo!

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8933 · February 04, 2012 at 10:38 AM

I'm not saying Michelle shouldn't take antibiotics though : I just think she should try out something more gentle first.

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8933 · February 04, 2012 at 10:37 AM

I couldn't even walk in the streets without crying. My nose hurt so much. I begged my doctor 4 times for a blood test. When I finally got it, I went my own way and started strict paleo based on the information I had. Best thing I've ever done in my whole life. Survival of the fittest has nothing to do with this : if anything, antibiotics are gonna make you the weakest person in the room, not the fittest.

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8933 · February 04, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Fuck this! Completely disagree, especially since I know how the antibiotics can really make someone sick. When my doctor prescribed them, I took them, not knowing what it was. I immediately got a giant zit on my face the next day (that's the funny part), then I had to lie in bed. Felt horrible. When my antibiotics course was over, my sinus infection was worse than ever.

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2485 · February 04, 2012 at 7:54 AM

Exactly. We shouldn't throw antibiotics at just anything, but bacterial infections could and did kill many of our ancestors. One of the luxuries of modern man is that we don't need to die like that. I'm not at all a fan of throwing antibiotics at every little thing, but sometimes they are needed.

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6709 · February 04, 2012 at 5:16 AM

Yuuuuuuuuuuuup!

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18635 · February 04, 2012 at 4:44 AM

Whiskey actually takes care of some of the same things as the steroids too :).....Had an old timer I knew that swore by these en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_toddy..... never took meds. Just make sure you also stay hydrated.

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18635 · February 04, 2012 at 4:43 AM

Whiskey actually takes care of some of the same things as the steroids too :).....Had an old timer I knew that swore by these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_toddy.....never took meds. Just make sure you also stay hydrated.

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1683 · February 04, 2012 at 4:35 AM

that sounds like the route id like to go...as few drugs as possible. not to mention it will finally force me to get this liver thing into my diet. i will definitely use the inhaler though because i cant breathe when i sleep :/

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18635 · February 04, 2012 at 4:33 AM

Whiskey is never bad ...IMHO.

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18635 · February 04, 2012 at 4:31 AM

Seeing you're newest posts...sounds like back to back infections...not necessarily the same thing that has been progressively getting worse. If it were me I might take some time off from activity eat some liver, get my D and C and if not feeling any better in a week THEN hit the antibiotics.....

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1683 · February 04, 2012 at 4:30 AM

ugh....how does some super strong burning whiskey work to burn the living crap out of the little bacterial beasties? peppermint schnapps perhaps? at least that way i can have a LITTLE fun?

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56606 · February 04, 2012 at 4:27 AM

I would see another doc if possible. My own doc has treated similar infections just with the steroids/inhaler. They are bad, but not as bad as antibiotics.

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18635 · February 04, 2012 at 4:26 AM

Sorry...just read your comment. See why he hit you with the inhaler and steroids then :).....As for antibiotics, if your symptoms have gotten any better in 2 weeks you may be OK without, but if your getting worse then you may just have to bite the bullet on taking them. That is very general advice without knowing a thing about you mind you :)

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1683 · February 04, 2012 at 4:24 AM

...x-rayed my chest and said i have some inflammation in my chese and said it was bronchitis and gave me meds for the next week until my mono results come in.

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1683 · February 04, 2012 at 4:22 AM

i first got sick about 3 weeks ago with flu-like symptoms for about 2 days, got better for a few days worked out twice, then the weather did this mad change up thing for a few days (cold, humid, warm, rainy...kinda bipolar) and i ended up sick again for about a week(head/chest/throat). i took 5 days off to let myself recover and started working out (lightly) 2 wednesdays ago. ive been getting 8-10 hours of sleep, eating well, and working out and have had NO energy so i finally went to the doctor today. she tested me for mono (short test was neg, sending out blood for long test)...

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18635 · February 04, 2012 at 4:17 AM

How long have you been sick? Were you tested for any actual bacterial infection? Thats actually a large list of stuff from even the most aggressive MD....what reasons does he have for the prescription of inhaler and steroid....is he just covering all his bases cuz he dont have a clue or what?

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1683 · February 04, 2012 at 4:10 AM

i've always been pretty anti anti-biotic. i have them and i have yet to take them because i hate them so much. ive heard about many people who have eaten stuff like liver and just chilled out for a week or so and gotten over everything just fine...ive been "sick" for 2 weeks and finally gave in and went to the doctor just to make sure i wasnt dying. I'm definitely using my inhaler because I stop breathing at night (which explains 10 hours of sleep and waking up tired) but i guess id just really like what could happen to my body if i take the antibiotics/roids

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37187 · February 04, 2012 at 4:04 AM

It sucks that you're sick, Michelle! Here's the thing--over the web, how can we safely judge whether it's safe for you to skip the meds? I have to say, either take them or get a second opinion from another doctor but don't play with you life by using PH as your judge. OTOH, we can definitely give you lots of sympathy and support. :-))

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32518 · February 04, 2012 at 4:13 AM

If I were you, I would use the steroids & inhaler short-term, skip the antibiotics and get your Vitamin D levels up instead. (I have a long-time past history of asthma--totally gone now with high D levels.)

I would take 40,000 IUs of Vitamin D3 for 3-5 days (D acts as an antibiotic in high enough amounts.)

More info at www.vitamindcouncil.org. Do a search.

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134 · September 03, 2013 at 3:45 AM

I could not find any source to support that statement.

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6709 · February 04, 2012 at 5:16 AM

Yuuuuuuuuuuuup!

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2765 · February 04, 2012 at 5:45 AM

You have bronchitis? By all means, skip the antibiotics then you can get pneumonia and die. Nothing more paleo than that. You do know that is how survival of the fittest worked right? Natural selection and all that? Those that got sick died off and didn't pass on DNA...those that didn't survived and here we are.

We have evolved to the point that we were smart enough to invent shoes and medicine...I'd suggest using them. To do otherwise is foolish. Some folks treat the paleo lifestyle like they've joined some kind of a cult...again foolish.

Anyone advising you to put aside modern medicine for bronchitis, which can become pneumonia...is giving foolish advice.

And this is coming from a practitioner of some very old healing techniques, a real root worker, sometimes called a "conjure man" in some areas, called a witch by the uneducated...but who also works day to day in modern medicine. Ancient cures and remedies are great for many things, and good for everything when modern medicine is not available...but you have an antibiotic prescription and I advise you to use it.

Steroids...they are corticosteroids, anti-inflammatory drugs. Not anabolic steroids, nothing drastic about them. They will open your airways, reduce your immune response which is what is causing your symptoms and make you feel better by allowing you to breathe easier. They are actually optional and the side effects are not nice, mainly you'll be a little grumpy and will retain some fluid, possibly up to 20 pounds or so...which you will pee off starting one or two days after you finish the medication. Again, they will make breathing easier and allow you to have more open airways with less inflammation in them. I'd suggest you use them, in fact I had my wife take them for bronchitis just two weeks ago for one week...she's back to her normal weight now and feels great.

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2765 · February 08, 2012 at 7:06 PM

we DO recover from the side effects of a short run of antibiotics.

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2765 · February 08, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Not destroying the natural flora? Now there is the rub. Antibiotics are going to kill those too. If your diet will allow it, yogurt is a good replacement. I know that for women, yogurt in the bath helps with yeast problems that can develop from using antibiotics. Tea tree oil based soap like choppers bodybuilder's body wash is also a good way to help with yeast problems too... but that's the problem with any medication - even the natural ones, they do have side effects. And that's the wonderful thing about the human body, it's resiliance...sometimes we have to use medications but we DO

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1683 · February 04, 2012 at 6:16 PM

i see your point @Andy Welch and I see what Korion is saying. My bronchitis isnt a full blown case of it. My doc said (after my x-ray) was that she saw some inflammation in my chest and she believes I have mild bronchitis...Ive been "sick" for 3ish weeks. All while continuing to work out, eat normally, and go to classes. Ive just been super tired and cough at night. My blood is out for a Mono test. I really hate taking drugs. I dont take them if Ive caught a cold/have a headache/have muscle aches so how do I go about taking the antibiotics without destroying my good gut flora? Thoughts?

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2765 · February 04, 2012 at 5:12 PM

When they are indicated, they should be used. And I seldom advocate using the prophylacticly, but in the case of bronchitis, I always do. There is fluid building in the lungs and it is a warm, wet, bacterial growth medium...stop it before it starts. Again, to do otherwise is idiocy. I'm glad everyone "knows" so much. Practice medicine for 23 years then come tell me again what you "know".

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8933 · February 04, 2012 at 10:38 AM

I'm not saying Michelle shouldn't take antibiotics though : I just think she should try out something more gentle first.

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8933 · February 04, 2012 at 10:37 AM

I couldn't even walk in the streets without crying. My nose hurt so much. I begged my doctor 4 times for a blood test. When I finally got it, I went my own way and started strict paleo based on the information I had. Best thing I've ever done in my whole life. Survival of the fittest has nothing to do with this : if anything, antibiotics are gonna make you the weakest person in the room, not the fittest.

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8933 · February 04, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Fuck this! Completely disagree, especially since I know how the antibiotics can really make someone sick. When my doctor prescribed them, I took them, not knowing what it was. I immediately got a giant zit on my face the next day (that's the funny part), then I had to lie in bed. Felt horrible. When my antibiotics course was over, my sinus infection was worse than ever.

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2485 · February 04, 2012 at 7:54 AM

Exactly. We shouldn't throw antibiotics at just anything, but bacterial infections could and did kill many of our ancestors. One of the luxuries of modern man is that we don't need to die like that. I'm not at all a fan of throwing antibiotics at every little thing, but sometimes they are needed.

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325 · February 18, 2013 at 12:03 AM

I just had bronchitis myself (got it about two weeks ago)--it came on FAST and quickly (within 24 hours) ramped up to pneumonia. Yes, antibiotics and steroids suck, but you know what sucks more? Pneumonia. I was given a 5 day course of azithromycin (excuse the spelling, I'm not sure that's the right one), and I felt awful and in pain enough to not question it.

If you're truly concerned about gut health, take it with a good course of pro-biotics, which is a tip I picked up from somewhere on this site (I'm sorry I can't find the link right now). I've had ZERO stomach issues from the antibiotics and I think I owe it to that tip about taking it with the pro-b. Other than that, lots of rest, lots of fluids and lots of bone broth. I didn't have much of an appetite to eat solid food for about a week (plus my throat hurt too much to even swallow fluids very well).

It's been over a week since my antibiotics course has finished, my fever is down and I'm feeling better, but I still have a cough and some wheezing issues that are sticking around. The doc said it may take some time for that to completely clear up.

If you don't want the antibiotics, I get it, I really do. But from the ordeal with bronchitis/pneumonia I just went through, I have to say I am very glad I took them (and again, VERY glad I took them with the pro-b as well).

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252 · February 04, 2012 at 5:01 AM

I was on steroid for a long time when I was diagnosed with autoimmune disease. I also have bad allergy and had mild asthma-like symptoms along with it. Along with steroids, I was also put on antibiotics.

I personally don't recommend steroid or antibiotic. It did barely any good and did tons of harms to me.

Had I known what the side effects were, I would have never taken those, especially steroid. It is very hard to get off steroid. You have to taper it down slowly and you suffer some kind of withdrawal symptoms along the way. Ironically, although I was on very high dosage of steroid, it didn't help my allergy much at all. It was just side effects and no benefit for me.

If I were you, I would add vitamin C and vitamin D , eat very simple and eat enough calories. And I would also focus on getting enough Vitamin A. Have you checked Vit A level? Mine turned out to be very low. I would not exercise and save energy to only absolutely necessary activities.

I've been on several rounds of antibiotics. It helps temporarily but the balance in my gut gets screwed after a round that it requires longer time to recover from that side effect. I find that antibiotics does help me recover from inflammation much quicker.

I don't know much about bronchitis but considering it's not a fatal disease, I will be careful using such a drastic medicine like steroids. maybe short term, not too high dosage.

Have you ever tried acupuncture? It might relieve your symptoms at times.

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8933 · February 04, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Good point about vitamin C and A in addition to vitamin D. All helped me so much when starting paleo!

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A doctor is trained to give medical advice and prescribe drugs to help you, including antibiotics, yet we think we know more. It's like going to the dentist and they tell you to floss more and you saying "I think flossing does more harm than good"...oh sorry I didn't know you went to school to be a dentist. Look, if you have bronchitis after a cold or strep etc, you have an infection in your lungs, which left untreated can be serious so why fuck with it? If your doctor prescribes you antibiotics after listening to your chest and hearing that mucous rattling around in there, take the things and get better. You think tea and honey will reverse a bronchial infection? Good luck with that.

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10 · February 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM

mmmm the steroids temporarily depress your immune system allowing your airways to open up and you to breathe easier. the antibiotics are an "insurance policy" against bacterial infections taking advantage of the (temporarily steroid) depressed immune system the inhaler is for taking when you are struggling when you are wheezy/breathless -it's a "quick relief" laters JK

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0 · January 05, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Why did you even go see a doctor if you don't want to follow their instructions?!? This is how bronchitis is treated.

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1683 · January 05, 2013 at 3:56 PM

I was required to have a note from a Doctor in order to not get penalized for my absence in class. If you were to read the question properly I asked how destructive taking all 3 together would be...not that I wasnt going to take them. More often than not antibiotics are over prescribed because that is all a doctor's patient wants because they believe it to be a "quick fix." As a general rule, if I can avoid taking antibiotics I do. Don't answer a question with a question...especially when the question is a year old. Its useless and contributes nothing to the thread.

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0 · November 10, 2012 at 1:40 AM

can you tell me why i had sideaffects to my tablets together one was a steriod the other antibotic

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18635 · February 04, 2012 at 4:22 AM

In general if you're symptoms have begun to get better withing 10-14 days on their own your usually in good shape. Don't fight a fever, its there to help you battle infection but if it last an abnormally long time or is recurrent there can be a problem. That list sounds like a shotgun medical approach cause A) he's not sure what the problem is OR B) too lazy to find out. Either way sounds like a bad approach to me.

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