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Candida and Leaky Gut

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So if someone has both i would like to ask which kind of food is the safest to eat and what to eat?

Also which supplements and remedies would help and relieve some symptoms? Already taking some of them and they help a lot.

If someone has some good links and information please post it here :)

Also what about phytates and oxalates and this kind of stuff?

No matter what i eat i get symptoms if not from all food but thats probably because of constipation also. (water retention,numbness,foggy,sleepy,dry skin,burning feeling thru body,eczema and some others)

I was like for almost a year only on spinach, brussel sprouts,greenbean and first half of the year on wild fish and still had symptoms.

Really not sure what are realy allergies and what arent since almost everything gives me some sort of symptoms. It is getting better but still want to know how to properly heal and fast as possible.

Are oxalates or phytates in food also causing this symptoms? How long does it take for a reaction to occur?

Can someone explain this a little bit more so i can calm down. Really not sure what to eat now and what helps and what now because some symptoms can be a good sign also (healing reactions)

So if you have some good information please post it here.

Thanks!!!

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78 · April 18, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Bumpy!!! Can you please post what kind of herbs did you use that helped you? Thanks!!!

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78 · April 12, 2012 at 8:23 AM

Yea i have the same or very similar symptoms. Anyway do you maybe know what usually helps. Or if there is any company that performs these tests in Europe? Thanks!!!

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55 · April 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Leopoldina, Sorry to be graphic but bowel movements were the biggest indicator, always very smelly, odd colours, with lots of undigested food. Never constipated, always loose, plus rectal itching. Symptoms included extreme fatigue, brain fog, carb craving and bloating, coming on about 30mins after eating. The first normal bowel movement I had after being treated was like winning the lottery! Food intolerance was the other big issue- reacted to everything- hadn't discovered Paleo yet so couldn't work out why my lentil curry went out the same way it went in.

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55 · April 10, 2012 at 10:47 AM

I find now that I am off all sugar and am low carb to boot, candida has ceased to be a problem (mainly manifested by thrush and brain fog). I believe the parasites are a far bigger problem as the candida naturally present in our bodies grows out of control in a body weakened by other nasty critters. I still can't tolerate any non-paleo foods at all however that is now irrelevant since I never intend to eat them again anyway.

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55 · April 10, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Natureman, you need to find a lab who treats the specimens correctly - you need to be provided with a speciman vial with a perservative and samples need to be cultured properly in the lab. If not preserved properly, parasites will break down and become undetectable before they even get under the microscope. Here in Australia, Healthscope Functional Pathology test correctly. My son's samples were sent to Metametrix Clinical Laboratory in the US - very expensive but worth it. Metametrix has the most sensitive test and even provided info as to what drugs each parasite was resistant to.

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10 · April 10, 2012 at 1:56 AM

hey Jeannine, when you said you had lots of issues with food did this include itching, headaches and extreme fatigue AFTER you eat? would be very interested to know this because if you did then maybe i have parasites as well. and Natureman, how are your symptoms now? what sort of diet are you on to control the itching?

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78 · April 09, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Wow i think and belive that i really have parasites instead of candida to be honest because my parents and my brother also have the same problems but arent so severe and they dont care actually and dont b elive also. I already had problems with my gut since my childhood. (Constipation and similar things...) What kind of tests were performed so they diagnosed that you have parasites? I did a lot of stool tests and it always showed as negative but i think those standard test are not good enough to show anything. Please post some more information here so we will be able to benefit from this :)

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78407 · April 05, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Rabbit is very lean. I'm really not into lean meat. I always feel like eating something fatty after I've eaten lean meat but if you like it, eat it. Don't stress yourself out about the minute details of omega ratios etc right now. That's something to balance out at a later date if it's a bit difficult at the moment. Right now you need to just get going in the right direction and make adjustments as you go.

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78 · April 05, 2012 at 11:13 AM

What about rabbit meat? I'm really overreacting also because of OMEGA ratio and so on and how it will affect me. Anyway yea the GAPS diet seems to be really good but from all those reactions that i get from food is just hard but i will get thru this Thanks Warren and others for taking some time answering my questions :) Do you have any recipes for broths? How long to cook them for MAX benefit. Thanks!!!

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8757 · April 05, 2012 at 11:06 AM

if doing fish stocks you need to get whole fish with the bones, head and all to get the good stuff from the bones, just boiling filets wont do the trick. Use whatever meats you can get, its a start. I only use organic chicken now, I'm allergic to beef, so thats worked well for me. You need to have some of the fat from the meat to help seal the gut. HIGHLY RECOMMEND you read up on GAPS more throughly, get some of the books before starting.

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78407 · April 05, 2012 at 6:31 AM

You have to ask yourself "What choices do I have?" If you can't get organic or pastured meat then you might want to do what I did and just make do with what you can get. Like I said, I had the same problem. I don't have it now and I didn't have easy access to organic and pastured meat. If you do what I did then maybe you will get the same result? Don't limit yourself. Eat more meat than fish. Particularly fatty meat even if it's not pastured meat. Lamb is a very clean and fatty meat. You are going to need fat for energy. You might struggle if you rely heavily on salmon.

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78 · April 04, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Well i'm asking because some say non organic meat is not ok for candida because it contains antibiotics and other unhealthy stuff which feeds it. So what do you think? Am i overreacting? Anyway i still got lots of frozen wild salmon in the fridge but not sure if only cooking the fish and only drinking the stock would be enough ass most minerals get extracted from the bones. Do you maybe have or anyone else some more info what helps and what not? Thanks!!!

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78407 · April 04, 2012 at 9:08 PM

I have hardly ever eaten organic meat but I couldn't always afford it or find it. I think we sometimes have to make do with the best we can. Good luck.

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78 · April 04, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Do you maybe know if drinking stocks or broths from non organic bones and meat is ok for candida. (I would be only drinking without eating the meat or the fatty, because i'm only looking to get all the minerals i need) Or if it will have any effect if i would just drink It's really hard to get organic meat here. Also would non organic meat cause any reactions? Thanks!!!

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78407 · April 04, 2012 at 8:26 PM

If you are taking any supplements, just swallow them down with food. Water soluble vitamins with veg at the beginning of the meal. Fat soluble vitamins with meat, fish and eggs.

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8953 · April 04, 2012 at 2:13 PM

One thing you should not forget : you won't kill the bacteries by cutting out sugar.

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78 · April 04, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Thanks for the links!!!

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8757 · April 03, 2012 at 4:59 PM

I'm no expert on much of this I just know what I've learned through my experiences, heres a link on oxalates, just google the word and you'll find more info: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=48

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8757 · April 03, 2012 at 4:57 PM

I dont do any supplements because I react to so many of them, and if I can't get my hands on really 'clean' ones I'm usually allergic to something in them. But I do think I'm heading towards adding in some Vit D in soon They say dont drink water more than 1/2 hr before eating and wait 2 hours after. Its hard but helps digestion. Broths: I was using regular chicken bones for broths and just recently found organic chicken so I've switched but its best if organic but not 100% if you cant. I'm allergic to beef so I only use chicken. Definitely start some broth just to sooth your tummy

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8757 · April 03, 2012 at 4:57 PM

also try the GAPS support group in yahoo, http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/GAPShelp/join This site gives some info: http://www.healthhomehappy.com/grain-free-2/30-days-on-gaps-intro-e-book

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8757 · April 03, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Definitely Quinoa, rice cakes and amaranth are something you should omit. I also was adding quinoa in at one point because I was loosing too much weight but it set me back digestively, no matter how much I soaked and cleaned it. I also have excema problems that are now gone but do pop up when i'm not strict but never anxiety. That said, I do get anxiety when I'm not well and having issues and stressing over food and its effect on me....because it interfrs with my life so much. Maybe something there? Have you tried fasting at all? When I'm not well I'll fast and it gives digestion a break

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78 · April 03, 2012 at 2:08 PM

It's hard to get organic meat here so how will the usual meat from the store have affect on healing? Am i being too picky? I really just need some tips from someone who knows the stuff and answer some of my questions so i can start doing the diet properly and not just being too picky about everything. Thanks!!

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78 · April 03, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I'm already taking curcumin extract and i think it really helps. Can you please list which supplements are worth taking? Also i dont know how to really start a realy proper diet because then i get all anxious because of candida and so on. How long does it usually take for candida or leaky gut to react on some foods? Becaus i noticed that i get some reactions even from previous day when i wake up and drink some water on an empty stomach. Some quality supplements are really hard to get here in Europe and sometimes shipping is very expensive. Thanks!!!

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78 · April 03, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Also is it ok to take all supplements at once or is it better to gulp every supplement one by one. Usually i dont take water i just put them in my mouth and swallow them with food because if i drink water during meal it kinda makes me constipated and makes my belly huge. Anyway i'm thinking about following the Bee diet or GAPS diet both are kinda similar. I really need to start making broths and would like to ask if its ok if the bones arent from organic or grass feed animals? I would only use the broth to get all the minerals. I really need some more proper info about this stuff. Thanks!!

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8757 · April 03, 2012 at 12:35 PM

great answer Alan, I also have LDN but not currently using, I'll look into the other items you mentioned as well

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78 · April 03, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Well this month i started eating Quinoa,Amaranth and rice cakes and its really not so good so i'll stop but every since i did this i made some cheats and i'm not sure how good that is for candida or how many step backs i made because of this. Because i'm getting lots of new symptoms again like itching thru all of my body, ant crawling like feeling in arms and legs and some Do you have any more info on oxalates how they react or anything regarding this? Also what happens to me is that an hour or more after eating i get anxiety or very uncomfy feeling in my chest which then later goes away.

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5043 · April 03, 2012 at 12:29 PM

I don't have the time or expertise to answer your question with links etc... but I wonder if you have tried probiotics like kefir (water or milk) or kombucha to repopulate your good gut flora?

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5043 · April 03, 2012 at 12:29 PM

I don't have any expertise. But have you considered probiotics like kefir (water or milk) or kombucha to repopulate your good gut flora?

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435 · April 03, 2012 at 12:33 PM

GAPS is among the best ways to heal leaky gut - www.gaps.me - GAPS adds a "process" for healing that Paleo is missing (just skip the peanuts). But most need more than just diet to heal from the autoimmune diseases that result from leaky gut. These include vitamin D3 (critical for healing leaky-gut), boswellia & curcumin (great anti inflammatories) and LDN. (www.crohnsdad.com)

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78 · April 04, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Thanks for the links!!!

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8757 · April 03, 2012 at 4:57 PM

also try the GAPS support group in yahoo, http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/GAPShelp/join This site gives some info: http://www.healthhomehappy.com/grain-free-2/30-days-on-gaps-intro-e-book

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78 · April 03, 2012 at 2:08 PM

It's hard to get organic meat here so how will the usual meat from the store have affect on healing? Am i being too picky? I really just need some tips from someone who knows the stuff and answer some of my questions so i can start doing the diet properly and not just being too picky about everything. Thanks!!

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78 · April 03, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I'm already taking curcumin extract and i think it really helps. Can you please list which supplements are worth taking? Also i dont know how to really start a realy proper diet because then i get all anxious because of candida and so on. How long does it usually take for candida or leaky gut to react on some foods? Becaus i noticed that i get some reactions even from previous day when i wake up and drink some water on an empty stomach. Some quality supplements are really hard to get here in Europe and sometimes shipping is very expensive. Thanks!!!

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8757 · April 03, 2012 at 12:35 PM

great answer Alan, I also have LDN but not currently using, I'll look into the other items you mentioned as well

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8757 · April 03, 2012 at 12:19 PM

I feel for you!

I have leaky gut but not candida. I also have trouble eating foods due to allergies, imflamation, IBS, colitis...all of which I attribute to the leaky gut--8 years of misery. I also have tons of ever changing/evolving food allergies which make eating difficult and frustrating.

Have you done any allergy testing? I would recommend it, but, if you aren't eating the whole range of foods, they will not show up as allergic....meaning you need to eat everything and anything probably 2 wks before in order to get a clear test of all that might be bothering your system.

A year ago I went Primal and then have slowly eased into Paleo, it helped a lot but not enough. I have the opposite issues, I live on immodium. Unfortunately I figured out that rotating my foods was probably the best thing for me, and helped me from reacting to the things I like to eat, meaning try not to repeat them too often, keep them in rotation so you don't start reacting to them. There are also so many 'gut irritating' real foods that I like that I've learned I can't eat either. But I try to focus on what I can eat, which is still quite a bit more than you.

I just recently started the GAPS introduction protocol, I finally got fed up with being sick all the time, I'm on week 3 of a 30 day plan. The intro protocol is suppose to help 'heal' the gut and addresses candida issues as well, I figured I didn't have anything to loose by trying. I am already seeing some positive results, but I will say, weeks 1-2 were challenging but my digestive system has calmed down, now I'm slowly introducing foods and my digestion seems to be resetting. It will be longer than 30 days for me, probably more like 45-60 to get through it, then I plan on adapting the full GAPS diet following paleo principles (they are similar anyways it seems).

I do'nt know if you are familiar with GAPS but I'd definitely look into it, I'd be happy to send you some info that helped me decide and guided me. There are several great books out there worth reading up first. Definitely do your homework before, because once you start the intro you MUST be strict and stay on it through the end. (kellciadesigns@gmail.com)

are you only eating the foods you listed above or other things?

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78407 · April 04, 2012 at 8:26 PM

If you are taking any supplements, just swallow them down with food. Water soluble vitamins with veg at the beginning of the meal. Fat soluble vitamins with meat, fish and eggs.

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8757 · April 03, 2012 at 4:59 PM

I'm no expert on much of this I just know what I've learned through my experiences, heres a link on oxalates, just google the word and you'll find more info: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=48

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8757 · April 03, 2012 at 4:57 PM

I dont do any supplements because I react to so many of them, and if I can't get my hands on really 'clean' ones I'm usually allergic to something in them. But I do think I'm heading towards adding in some Vit D in soon They say dont drink water more than 1/2 hr before eating and wait 2 hours after. Its hard but helps digestion. Broths: I was using regular chicken bones for broths and just recently found organic chicken so I've switched but its best if organic but not 100% if you cant. I'm allergic to beef so I only use chicken. Definitely start some broth just to sooth your tummy

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8757 · April 03, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Definitely Quinoa, rice cakes and amaranth are something you should omit. I also was adding quinoa in at one point because I was loosing too much weight but it set me back digestively, no matter how much I soaked and cleaned it. I also have excema problems that are now gone but do pop up when i'm not strict but never anxiety. That said, I do get anxiety when I'm not well and having issues and stressing over food and its effect on me....because it interfrs with my life so much. Maybe something there? Have you tried fasting at all? When I'm not well I'll fast and it gives digestion a break

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78 · April 03, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Also is it ok to take all supplements at once or is it better to gulp every supplement one by one. Usually i dont take water i just put them in my mouth and swallow them with food because if i drink water during meal it kinda makes me constipated and makes my belly huge. Anyway i'm thinking about following the Bee diet or GAPS diet both are kinda similar. I really need to start making broths and would like to ask if its ok if the bones arent from organic or grass feed animals? I would only use the broth to get all the minerals. I really need some more proper info about this stuff. Thanks!!

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78 · April 03, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Well this month i started eating Quinoa,Amaranth and rice cakes and its really not so good so i'll stop but every since i did this i made some cheats and i'm not sure how good that is for candida or how many step backs i made because of this. Because i'm getting lots of new symptoms again like itching thru all of my body, ant crawling like feeling in arms and legs and some Do you have any more info on oxalates how they react or anything regarding this? Also what happens to me is that an hour or more after eating i get anxiety or very uncomfy feeling in my chest which then later goes away.

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55 · April 09, 2012 at 8:45 AM

I can sympathise with you totally. You sound exactly like me until two years ago. I didn't know which way to turn with my diet and to make it worse, all my kids were as bad as I was.- each day was spent stumbling from one bout of tummy pain or diarrhoea or behavioural problems with me feeling totally at a loss with how to fix myself and my kids and feeling like I had completely failed them. I tried GAPS for months with limited improvement and spent hundreds of dollars on probiotics with no effect. We ended up finding a great doctor who diagnosed us all with parasites called Blastocystis Hominis and another called Dientomoeba Fragilis as well as H. Pylori and Candida. quite common apparently but not recognized as an issue by the medical fraternity. We ended up being treated with Chinese herbs and antibiotics ( because I was at my wits end) and while we don't have full digestive strength back yet, I can say that we can finally tolerate all fully paleo foods and are constantly improving. It could be worth investigating the parasite issue as any dietary intervention may show much faster results.

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78 · April 18, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Bumpy!!! Can you please post what kind of herbs did you use that helped you? Thanks!!!

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78 · April 12, 2012 at 8:23 AM

Yea i have the same or very similar symptoms. Anyway do you maybe know what usually helps. Or if there is any company that performs these tests in Europe? Thanks!!!

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55 · April 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Leopoldina, Sorry to be graphic but bowel movements were the biggest indicator, always very smelly, odd colours, with lots of undigested food. Never constipated, always loose, plus rectal itching. Symptoms included extreme fatigue, brain fog, carb craving and bloating, coming on about 30mins after eating. The first normal bowel movement I had after being treated was like winning the lottery! Food intolerance was the other big issue- reacted to everything- hadn't discovered Paleo yet so couldn't work out why my lentil curry went out the same way it went in.

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55 · April 10, 2012 at 10:47 AM

I find now that I am off all sugar and am low carb to boot, candida has ceased to be a problem (mainly manifested by thrush and brain fog). I believe the parasites are a far bigger problem as the candida naturally present in our bodies grows out of control in a body weakened by other nasty critters. I still can't tolerate any non-paleo foods at all however that is now irrelevant since I never intend to eat them again anyway.

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55 · April 10, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Natureman, you need to find a lab who treats the specimens correctly - you need to be provided with a speciman vial with a perservative and samples need to be cultured properly in the lab. If not preserved properly, parasites will break down and become undetectable before they even get under the microscope. Here in Australia, Healthscope Functional Pathology test correctly. My son's samples were sent to Metametrix Clinical Laboratory in the US - very expensive but worth it. Metametrix has the most sensitive test and even provided info as to what drugs each parasite was resistant to.

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10 · April 10, 2012 at 1:56 AM

hey Jeannine, when you said you had lots of issues with food did this include itching, headaches and extreme fatigue AFTER you eat? would be very interested to know this because if you did then maybe i have parasites as well. and Natureman, how are your symptoms now? what sort of diet are you on to control the itching?

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78 · April 09, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Wow i think and belive that i really have parasites instead of candida to be honest because my parents and my brother also have the same problems but arent so severe and they dont care actually and dont b elive also. I already had problems with my gut since my childhood. (Constipation and similar things...) What kind of tests were performed so they diagnosed that you have parasites? I did a lot of stool tests and it always showed as negative but i think those standard test are not good enough to show anything. Please post some more information here so we will be able to benefit from this :)

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10 · April 09, 2012 at 7:10 AM

hey natureman!i am new to this discussion but i would just like to say that i have exactly the same symptoms and problems as you describe. i have both leaky gut and systemic candida and have chronic food intolerances which are now so bad i react to every single thing that i eat. i too get the itching burning skin sensation you described all over my body plus terrible headaches. it is a nightmare. it was in desperation when i was doing more research to try and find a cure that i came upon this discussion. i had never heard of the GAPS diet but looked it up and decided that since i was already on a really strict candida diet it would be easy to adapt to it. what i have found is that the meat/veges broths on the GAPS diet i can tolerate much better than anything else i have been eating. i still get headaches when i eat, but very little itching. which is something. i have stopped all supplements as well as i react to them all. as regards whether to use organic or not, i use organic chicken because i can source it easily at present but i use non-organic red meat. i don't react to the latter but non-organic chickens i definitely react to so avoid them.

interested to hear if you have made any progress and what else you have found that has helped you. i feel we are both in the same boat.

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78407 · April 04, 2012 at 8:36 PM

I had the same problem for years. If I knew then, what I know now, I would have been far more brutal with eliminating foods. I would have eliminated all starch, fruit and virtually all veg except for a few that I was sure that I was ok with.
I would have eaten far more meat stock, animal fat and organs.

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78407 · April 05, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Rabbit is very lean. I'm really not into lean meat. I always feel like eating something fatty after I've eaten lean meat but if you like it, eat it. Don't stress yourself out about the minute details of omega ratios etc right now. That's something to balance out at a later date if it's a bit difficult at the moment. Right now you need to just get going in the right direction and make adjustments as you go.

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78 · April 05, 2012 at 11:13 AM

What about rabbit meat? I'm really overreacting also because of OMEGA ratio and so on and how it will affect me. Anyway yea the GAPS diet seems to be really good but from all those reactions that i get from food is just hard but i will get thru this Thanks Warren and others for taking some time answering my questions :) Do you have any recipes for broths? How long to cook them for MAX benefit. Thanks!!!

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8757 · April 05, 2012 at 11:06 AM

if doing fish stocks you need to get whole fish with the bones, head and all to get the good stuff from the bones, just boiling filets wont do the trick. Use whatever meats you can get, its a start. I only use organic chicken now, I'm allergic to beef, so thats worked well for me. You need to have some of the fat from the meat to help seal the gut. HIGHLY RECOMMEND you read up on GAPS more throughly, get some of the books before starting.

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78407 · April 05, 2012 at 6:31 AM

You have to ask yourself "What choices do I have?" If you can't get organic or pastured meat then you might want to do what I did and just make do with what you can get. Like I said, I had the same problem. I don't have it now and I didn't have easy access to organic and pastured meat. If you do what I did then maybe you will get the same result? Don't limit yourself. Eat more meat than fish. Particularly fatty meat even if it's not pastured meat. Lamb is a very clean and fatty meat. You are going to need fat for energy. You might struggle if you rely heavily on salmon.

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78 · April 04, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Well i'm asking because some say non organic meat is not ok for candida because it contains antibiotics and other unhealthy stuff which feeds it. So what do you think? Am i overreacting? Anyway i still got lots of frozen wild salmon in the fridge but not sure if only cooking the fish and only drinking the stock would be enough ass most minerals get extracted from the bones. Do you maybe have or anyone else some more info what helps and what not? Thanks!!!

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78407 · April 04, 2012 at 9:08 PM

I have hardly ever eaten organic meat but I couldn't always afford it or find it. I think we sometimes have to make do with the best we can. Good luck.

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78 · April 04, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Do you maybe know if drinking stocks or broths from non organic bones and meat is ok for candida. (I would be only drinking without eating the meat or the fatty, because i'm only looking to get all the minerals i need) Or if it will have any effect if i would just drink It's really hard to get organic meat here. Also would non organic meat cause any reactions? Thanks!!!

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78 · April 04, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Bump for this :)

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