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Ladies & and their MEN, What can you do about Hot Flashes? Is it all in your head? Or is it all in your gut?

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Created May 21, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Dr Bruce Bair, co-author of the blogsite http://www.femalemenopausementors.com along with Anne Vaillancourt, PAC. They have a nice video talking about hot flashes and how peri and post meno ladies can handle and control the ravages of estrogen depletion. It is not 100% paleo but does give some insight for everyone interested in the subject.

Again the gut brain axis rears its head in management of the body.

The Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgYEgojJ2M8

Have any of you ladies ever considered how what you eat is related to hot flashes? Any anecdotal examples of diet related "cures" not that hot flashes are a disease or are in anyway psychosomatic...ie a manifestation that it is all in your head.

Perhaps more of a management struggle.

My anecdotal evidence is my wife had raging hot flashes as did her mother...so much so that changing clothes three times a day was the norm...finally after going 85% paleo has reduced them down to a couple episodes a week. But if she is out with the girls and eats a wheat laden product...back they come for a week. And then she swears she will never again eat gluten...until the next time she does!! Insanity...same behavior expecting a different result. But after 40 years, I guess she is a keeper.

Paleo Ladies, your thoughts on this one?

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25467 · May 22, 2011 at 1:51 AM

bcp is Birth control pills........low carb flu is caused by decrease dietary serotonin......so you take 5htp 200 mgs a day for 3 to 4 weeks.....no flu.

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1035 · May 21, 2011 at 10:04 PM

BCP=birth control pills?

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9948 · May 21, 2011 at 9:38 PM

So in pre meno ladies, when we read about low carb flu with headaches, loss of energy, vitality and adverse effect from the keto/low carb...could those manifestations be the result of estrogen dominance during the month instead of low carb flu?

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25467 · May 21, 2011 at 8:31 PM

one last important point......high CRH directly inhibits TSH release.....hence another reason for the weight gain. Replacing T4 and T3 wont help unless the CRH reduction is dealt with. You must get pedicures and massages ladies.....to control the CRH release.

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25467 · May 21, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Women's hot flashes are multifactorial but the most common reason they occur is estrogen dominance. As a women ages and enters into perimenopause her eggs are aging and they have shortened telomeres. Leptin actually helps select the egg for maturation and control fecundity. When that egg is older and it is choosen as the dominant follicle because it is the best choice of what is left it gets ovulated after the first two weeks of estrogen release from the ovary. Estrogen is pro growth for the breast and uterus. Once the egg is released it secretes progesterone to support the possible pregnancy.

Older eggs produce less progesterone. There there is an imbalance of estrogen to progesterone. The common symptoms is loss of energy, vitality, headaches, change in sleep, and vasomotor reactions (hotflash) Hotflashes are also symptoms of that a women is no longer controling her UCP1 because she is becoming leptin resistant due to a lack of balance.

Most women seeking care get a CW doc who wont treat....and if they do they treat with an SSRI, ambien, valium and pain med......to cover all the complaints. What the women needs is bioidentical progesterone replacement to balance her out. You can easily get tested for this with a salivary study. Once diagnosed it is easy to treat. Many OB's wont give a women with a uterus progesterone because they fear CA. Well if you give Medroxy Progestin (synthetic) you do need to worry. But prometrium in small doses or a transdermal cream works best.

And Dexter the reason Paleo makes total sense for women is this.....When perimenopause occurs it also happens because as progesterone falls, sleep worsens.......cortisol rises over ten to fifteen yrs and the CRH from the pituitary directly feed backs and lowers the release of GNRH. GNRH lowers the sex steroid hormones more. So it actually gets worse if it goes untreated. The high chronic cortisol leads to central and peripheral leptin resitance and that causes the weight gain. If you eat paleo.....you control NPY and you handle energy metabolism correctly. NPY is a modulator of the reward tracks and hypocretin neurons that control satiety and food seeking behavior.....specifically carb craving behavior. Increased NPY means a women seeks carbs to eat. Do it long enough you get fat just like Gary Taubes says you will. Carbs need to be monitored by perimenopausal women because they become sensitized to it.

The story gets tougher when you get a perimenopausal women who is also in BCP's. Then we have to talk about liver metabolism for estrogen. And that is complicated and will have to wait til I start writing. But it is critical to understand if your a woman or a doctor treating these women. Women want contraception but if they really knew what it does to the liver I bet they would choose a condom or a diaphragm. They are paying a steep price for convenience.

Sorry it was long and complicated but it is vital to paleo women.......

People dont care what you know until they know you care more.

THE Quilt.


Edit: For Glossary by Dexter

Glossary of abbreviations:

CRH Corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH), originally named corticotropin-releasing factor (CRF), and also called corticoliberin, is a polypeptide hormone and neurotransmitter involved in the stress response. It belongs to corticotropin-releasing factor family.

Its main function is the stimulation of the pituitary synthesis of ACTH. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corticotropin-releasing_hormone

TSH Thyroid-stimulating hormone (also known as TSH or thyrotropin) is a peptide hormone synthesized and secreted by thyrotrope cells in the anterior pituitary gland, which regulates the endocrine function of the thyroid gland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid-stimulating_hormone

NPY "NPY has been associated with a number of physiologic processes in the brain, including the regulation of energy balance, memory and learning, and epilepsy."[1] The main effect is increased food intake and decreased physical activity. NPY is secreted by the hypothalamus, and, in addition to increasing food intake, it increases the proportion of energy stored as fat and blocks nociceptive signals to the brain.[2] NPY also augments the vasoconstrictor effects of noradrenergic neurons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuropeptide_Y

BCP Birth Control Pills

UCP1 Thermogenin (called uncoupling protein by its discoverers and now known as uncoupling protein 1, or UCP1)[1] is an uncoupling protein found in the mitochondria of brown adipose tissue (BAT). It is used to generate heat by non-shivering thermogenesis. Non-shivering thermogenesis is the primary means of heat generation in hibernating mammals and in human infants http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermogenin

GNRH Gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH), also known as Luteinizing-hormone-releasing hormone (LHRH) and luliberin, is a tropic peptide hormone responsible for the release of follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone (LH) from the anterior pituitary. GnRH is synthesized and released from neurons within the hypothalamus. The peptide belongs to gonadotropin-releasing hormone family. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonadotropin-releasing_hormone

SSRI Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors or serotonin-specific reuptake inhibitor[1] (SSRIs) are a class of compounds typically used as antidepressants in the treatment of depression, anxiety disorders, and some personality disorders. The efficacy of SSRIs is disputed. A 2010 meta-analysis states that "The magnitude of benefit of antidepressant medication compared with placebo ... may be minimal or nonexistent, on average, in patients with mild or moderate symptoms. For patients with very severe depression, the benefit of medications over placebo is substantial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSRI

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1035 · May 21, 2011 at 10:04 PM

BCP=birth control pills?

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9948 · May 21, 2011 at 9:38 PM

So in pre meno ladies, when we read about low carb flu with headaches, loss of energy, vitality and adverse effect from the keto/low carb...could those manifestations be the result of estrogen dominance during the month instead of low carb flu?

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25467 · May 21, 2011 at 8:31 PM

one last important point......high CRH directly inhibits TSH release.....hence another reason for the weight gain. Replacing T4 and T3 wont help unless the CRH reduction is dealt with. You must get pedicures and massages ladies.....to control the CRH release.

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25467 · May 22, 2011 at 1:51 AM

bcp is Birth control pills........low carb flu is caused by decrease dietary serotonin......so you take 5htp 200 mgs a day for 3 to 4 weeks.....no flu.

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2081 · May 21, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Yes, estrogen dominance is part of the reason for hot flashes and the other absolutely horrid "symptoms" of perimenopause/menopause. I have some bioidentical progesterone cream, but I'm rather haphazard about using it, I'm afraid. However, cutting grains/refined sugar went a long way towards mitigating most of those symptoms; reducing my alcohol intake reduced them further, then removing dairy from my diet (mostly) took care of the insomnia. These days the worst thing is the 3 - 5 days before I begin my period - which is NEVER reliable anymore, and I used to be like clockwork - when I tend to be irritable, although even that is not as bad as it used to be.

So yes, diet CAN help. At least, it has helped me.

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5201 · February 11, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I didn't go into menopause until after I started eating paleo. I was miserable...soaking the sheets several times every night, then freezing, I was getting very little sleep. Days were slightly better but not by much. My diet was pretty clean with no gluten, legumes, industrial seed oils, and very little dairy (goat yogurt and cheese). My salvation has been bHRT and progesterone but it still isn't perfect. It is, however, much more tolerable. So, I can't really say that paleo way of eating has helped much.

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1387 · February 11, 2013 at 1:01 PM

I'm 54. Back in my mid 40s, when I was on a "healthy whole grains" type of diet, I had more, and more severe hot flashes, particularly at night, when I would soak my pajamas. One of the immediate changes of going paleo was fewer hot flashes and the ones I had were much less severe. They are now so mild and infrequent, they don't bother me. I do keep the house on the cool side, especially at night (67, 62). Too much alcohol definitely can make me wake up at night with a hot flash or two. I've noticed too that an occasional anxious thought can bring on a hot flash--perhaps a adrenalin connection?

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60 · February 11, 2013 at 6:45 AM

I was having a torrent month of crazy hot flashes. I reduced my intake of ginger, spicy food and caffeine for my green tea. I do notice a significant lessening of hot flashes. I also lessened my intake of anything coconut and it seems to help. Coconut increases metabolism and I assume it creates more heat in the body.

I'd be happy to hear what has helped others. Thanks for the scientific terminology above. It will take me some time to fully understand it all.

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2319 · May 22, 2011 at 1:23 AM

There's some discussion of this on the salicylate sensitivity forum

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