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South Asian Paleos: protocol, rationale, results?

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Created March 07, 2012 at 6:10 PM

I"m defining South Asian as the broad sweep between Afghanistan and Myanmar/Burma--I'm likely Ancestral South-Indian biased, given my known genealogy (Sri-Lankan Tamil), and started eating LC/high-fat, then simply low-grain, high-fat and now more of a 55C/15P/30F ratio--doing all this due to poor bodycomp, energy and mood as well as a desire to mitigate risk factors stemming from familial history of t2 diabetes and heart disease at visually lean states. I ate as a low-protein, high-grain, low-fat lacto-vegetarian from age 0-24 (with one 6month period of high whey protein powder intake--about 300g p a day) with meat/fish/eggs added after 24 (but generally same macros as before.)

I'm interested in your current and past diet protocol, the reasons for doing so and your results so far. If possible, exercise structure would also be welcome.

thanks in advance.

For reference regarding ancestry (I am very much interested in anyone with any amount of it): http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v461/n7263/full/nature08365.html

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0 · March 23, 2012 at 8:29 AM

No they don't. Keep holding onto your little meat keto arctic fantasy. Maybe a cavegirl in a bikini will need saving from a sabretooth tiger.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7
0 · March 22, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Interesting question: has an nondiabetic paleo ever become diabetic? (at least from online reporting)

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0 · March 22, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Kamal, my Dad is thin and a type II diabetic and I'm quite sure I was headed in that direction also before starting paleo. I know I need to exercise more too in addition to my improved diet if I want to avoid diabetes.

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0 · March 22, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Most non-Europeans do better on moderate to higher carb diets. Northern Europeans do better on a ketogenic diet.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7
0 · March 22, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Richard, are you clairvoyant? I'm PSMFing currently, and have experimented for bodycomp and diabetes prevention in the past (my family is full of thin diabetics). My main dietary experimentation is done for pain though, with no effects either way thus far. My baseline diet, though, is Paul Jaminet's Perfect Health Diet.

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0 · March 22, 2012 at 2:58 AM

thanks good sir. do you experiment to change bodycomp or mitigate risk of diabetes, etc ? any progress in either goal?

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0 · March 22, 2012 at 2:30 AM

Nandalal - See: Pedantic

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157
0 · March 22, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Have you tried a PSMF diet?

D12142c8cafb16d9af10b3362cb8fb62
0 · March 08, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Well I'm not American so... 100% northen european.

284213562569be43dfda0ad40914da6f
0 · March 08, 2012 at 3:44 AM

there's nothing elitist about not knowing the terms of the discussion i'm referring to: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/02/the-race-question-are-bonobos-human/ is it a fairytale that clinal divisions describe differential response to medication (of which I think Paleo can be included)? "100% Northern European" seems a bit specific for someone hanging on to Lewontin's Fallacy :)

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24523 · March 22, 2012 at 12:26 AM

I'm of Indian ancestry, but have experimented with diets and exercise protocols for pretty much all my adult life. My Gujarati background means I grew up eating very little meat.

My pal and confidant (just like Golden Girls, but also very different) Aravind is lacto-ovo vegetarian paleo.

There are some related questions on paleohacks, like this one:
http://paleohacks.com/questions/9663/is-paleo-for-indian-people-significantly-different#axzz1pnhK7v5P

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7
0 · March 22, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Interesting question: has an nondiabetic paleo ever become diabetic? (at least from online reporting)

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157
0 · March 22, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Kamal, my Dad is thin and a type II diabetic and I'm quite sure I was headed in that direction also before starting paleo. I know I need to exercise more too in addition to my improved diet if I want to avoid diabetes.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7
0 · March 22, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Richard, are you clairvoyant? I'm PSMFing currently, and have experimented for bodycomp and diabetes prevention in the past (my family is full of thin diabetics). My main dietary experimentation is done for pain though, with no effects either way thus far. My baseline diet, though, is Paul Jaminet's Perfect Health Diet.

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0 · March 22, 2012 at 2:58 AM

thanks good sir. do you experiment to change bodycomp or mitigate risk of diabetes, etc ? any progress in either goal?

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157
0 · March 22, 2012 at 1:41 AM

Have you tried a PSMF diet?

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1590 · March 07, 2012 at 11:55 PM

I don't think there's any significant differences between different ''races''.

I've eaten pretty much every macronutrient ratio under the sun (from 5% carb to 75% carb etc) and I've been eaten 50/30/20 C/F/P for a while now and this is what I like the best.

I'm 100% northern european. It's a fairytale to think there's massive differences; elitism and detracts from the actual biology.

I'm gonna just say it... a lot of Americans who have mostly white ancestry seem to have a fetish for carnivourism here. It's slightly odd.

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0 · March 23, 2012 at 8:29 AM

No they don't. Keep holding onto your little meat keto arctic fantasy. Maybe a cavegirl in a bikini will need saving from a sabretooth tiger.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8
0 · March 22, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Most non-Europeans do better on moderate to higher carb diets. Northern Europeans do better on a ketogenic diet.

85026a0abe715229761956fbbee1cba0
0 · March 22, 2012 at 2:30 AM

Nandalal - See: Pedantic

D12142c8cafb16d9af10b3362cb8fb62
0 · March 08, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Well I'm not American so... 100% northen european.

284213562569be43dfda0ad40914da6f
0 · March 08, 2012 at 3:44 AM

there's nothing elitist about not knowing the terms of the discussion i'm referring to: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/02/the-race-question-are-bonobos-human/ is it a fairytale that clinal divisions describe differential response to medication (of which I think Paleo can be included)? "100% Northern European" seems a bit specific for someone hanging on to Lewontin's Fallacy :)

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