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Question about Tim Feriss' 4 Hour Body

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Created May 31, 2011 at 1:57 PM

One of Tim Feriss' big assertions in the 4 hour Body is in order to accelerate fat loss, you should consume 30 grams of protein within 30 minutes of waking. Usually, I am not hungry at all when I wake up and find it very easy to wait to eat until 11 or 12.

I know that he's controversial around here but I'm curious what the group thinks about this. To accelerate fat burning, should I eat 30 grams of protein within 30 minutes of waking up?

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217 · February 28, 2012 at 11:18 PM

I agree, it's a great idea - if you're on a HUGE wage, since bird's nests are officially the most expensive source of protein on the planet. ;-)

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217 · February 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM

There are lots of resources out there for 'breaking the fast' as soon as possible. Re-read the book or check Ferriss' blog perhaps? I lost my weight VERY quickly when I ate eggs and bacon early in the morning, and it stalled when I skipped breakfast (while all other things remained the same).

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8255 · June 01, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Pretty freaking expensive compared to my 90% protein Whey Isolate. Plus, I can buy multiple pounds of it for the same cost. I'd be wanting to see some pretty conclusive studies before shelling out for bird nest soup for fat loss...

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15976 · June 01, 2011 at 1:12 PM

good answer. Indeed what you explain, James, is the reasoning lifters of all variety have done just this for years and years. I have never had an appetite in the AM (we eat kind of right before bed) but am currently doing my own modified version: as soon as I rise i down BCAA tablets with water just to maybe halt any catabolic action in the body. Not that I'm sold on the whole "you're catabolic after 8 hours of no food/sleeping!" thing.

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6235 · May 31, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Yea, I usually just had three eggs (that being the limit of my tolerance for cold boiled eggs first thing in the morning) and that seemed to work fine for me.

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2435 · May 31, 2011 at 5:30 PM

I'm going to try this just for what you said. Though, 30 grams of protein is 5 hard-boiled eggs...

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110 · May 31, 2011 at 2:04 PM

thank you -- i'll give it a try. my tough time are the evening/ afternoon hour.

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5002 · May 31, 2011 at 5:49 PM

One thing worth noting is that it might make you wake up earlier than you want to. Seth Roberts reports that early eating has this effect; and skipping breakfast quickly erases it. His finding ended an early-waking insomnia problem that he struggled with for years.

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6235 · May 31, 2011 at 2:02 PM

I suggest you give it a try for two weeks. Hard boiled eggs were what I tried. I found that it resulted in me being less hungry before bed when I used to reach for chocolate and the like. I don't know what it did weight loss wise and I have not sustained it like I should have, but it did seem to have a helpful effect on my eating patterns.

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6235 · May 31, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Yea, I usually just had three eggs (that being the limit of my tolerance for cold boiled eggs first thing in the morning) and that seemed to work fine for me.

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2435 · May 31, 2011 at 5:30 PM

I'm going to try this just for what you said. Though, 30 grams of protein is 5 hard-boiled eggs...

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110 · May 31, 2011 at 2:04 PM

thank you -- i'll give it a try. my tough time are the evening/ afternoon hour.

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0 · June 01, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Love it

btw, bird nest is made up of about 58% soluable proteins...the highest amoung all food and even synetic protein powders

it greatly increase tissue regeneration

sources taken from the internet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_nest_soup http://hongkong-bird-nest.50webs.com/index_e.htm

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217 · February 28, 2012 at 11:18 PM

I agree, it's a great idea - if you're on a HUGE wage, since bird's nests are officially the most expensive source of protein on the planet. ;-)

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8255 · June 01, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Pretty freaking expensive compared to my 90% protein Whey Isolate. Plus, I can buy multiple pounds of it for the same cost. I'd be wanting to see some pretty conclusive studies before shelling out for bird nest soup for fat loss...

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50 · June 01, 2011 at 3:57 AM

I didn't find it helpful, but I normally dont eat breakfast. I'm never hungry in the mornings. he never gave a reason for the protein rule.

Keep in mind he's trying to ensure good behavior. Eating protein Early will prevent you eating something less satiating 45 minutes later.

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217 · February 28, 2012 at 11:14 PM

There are lots of resources out there for 'breaking the fast' as soon as possible. Re-read the book or check Ferriss' blog perhaps? I lost my weight VERY quickly when I ate eggs and bacon early in the morning, and it stalled when I skipped breakfast (while all other things remained the same).

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8255 · June 01, 2011 at 12:35 AM

I've seen that from Tim Ferris, but what I haven't seen is the science that he is using to back up the time/exact protein amount. I know the basic idea though. Essentially after a night's sleep, your body is in a catabolic state because it's processed all the food from the last meal. Since it is in a catabolic/starvation state, it tries to hold on to fat/use protein(muscle) for food. The fast digesting whey protein is to switch back to an anabolic state and get out of that starvation mode as soon as possible. Not really sure if it ramps up the metabolism, but protein's harder to digest, so possibly does it that way.

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15976 · June 01, 2011 at 1:12 PM

good answer. Indeed what you explain, James, is the reasoning lifters of all variety have done just this for years and years. I have never had an appetite in the AM (we eat kind of right before bed) but am currently doing my own modified version: as soon as I rise i down BCAA tablets with water just to maybe halt any catabolic action in the body. Not that I'm sold on the whole "you're catabolic after 8 hours of no food/sleeping!" thing.

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