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Can you eat unlimited CLA and Luaric Acid/tallow and coconut oil?

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Created April 16, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Hi,

Two of the most commonly recommended and healthiest fats on the Paleo diet, from what I've seen, are grass-fed animal fat (tallow) and coconut oil.

As you may know, tallow has a good omega-3/6 balance and coconut oil is MCT, so easily absorbed and used as fuel in the form of keytones.

I use both in large amounts on a daily basis, for cooking and adding to meals.

As tallow is high in CLA and coconut oil is high in lauric acid, which I know are very healthy, I was wondering if there's a limit to how much of these you should consume?

Are they still healthy in unlimited quantities?

For example, if we're supposed to get 60%+ of our calories from fat then, and using these fats as the main source of fat, then we must be eating a lot of CLA and lauric acid.

I do eat other fats as well, but these are my staples as I can't eat lard, chicken or duck fat or even too much olive oil as I get a bit of inflammation from these, and I feel great eating tallow/coconut oil.

Thanks for your answers!

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17384 · April 24, 2014 at 10:09 AM

I don't have access to that paper, so I can't comment, but I if I had to guess that they used standard rat chow vs "high fat" lab chow to test this in mice. Now, the problem is that high fat lab chow is also high in carb, hence the insulin rise. Either that, or they did indeed discover that insulin is raised by FFAs - very interesting if true. Is there an alternate link to that paper that's open?

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10994 · April 17, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Dude, you keep saying fats don't raise insulin but they definitely do http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15929861 , I've been meaning to bring this up for a while now.

I agree with your first paragraph though.

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45 · April 17, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Thanks, I'll make sure I don't go over the 1000 cal limit - I usually eat about 100g per day, keep things steady the department you mentioned.

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41544 · April 16, 2014 at 4:32 PM

In general, if you have to ask if something is too much, you're probably eating too much. Increase variety of fats in your diet, and you're even better off.

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17384 · April 16, 2014 at 11:53 PM

Um, there's no such thing as eating unlimited fat. You need lipase from bile to digest fats, at some point you run out and whatever's, um, in the pipeline, will make its way very quickly out the other end - most of the time explosively... causing disaster pants.

As to whether it's healthy or not, it probably is. But I find if I eat enough fat, it completely cuts off my appetite and I won't be able to eat any more. This happens before the above scenario - usually, and it's usually below 1000 calories.

It's a nice way to do a fast and avoid insulin, while still allowing (mostly) for autophagy. I like doing that with a bulletproof coffee in the morning, and then consuming a small slice of salted grassfed butter whenever I get hungry.

But keep in mind, we also need lots of other micronutrients, minerals, phytonutrients, protein, and some carbs. Otherwise we start starving and things start to go south. It's a useful tool to do fat only fasts occasionally (or better yet, full on fasts) in order to burn off excess fat stores, enter autophagy and do some cellular clean up, invoke apoptosis in broken cells and mitochondria and possibly cancerous cells, but be sure to get lots of micronutrients before and after such fasts.

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45 · April 17, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Thanks, I'll make sure I don't go over the 1000 cal limit - I usually eat about 100g per day, keep things steady the department you mentioned.

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10994 · April 17, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Dude, you keep saying fats don't raise insulin but they definitely do http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15929861 , I've been meaning to bring this up for a while now.

I agree with your first paragraph though.

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