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Has anyone read any John Yudkin?

by 2218 · May 22, 2013 7:08 AM

While visiting family over Thanksgiving, I pulled down and started thumbing through a paperback book from 1974 entitled "Nourishing your Unborn Child" by Phyllis Williams, RN. The nutrition section, when discussing fat, said the following:

There has been a great deal of controversy recently on the role of fats in the development of atherosclerosis and coronary heart disease. Some physicians have been recommending lowering fat intake, using polyunsaturated fats and limiting cholesterol-containing foods as a means of preventing these diseases. In fact, as Dr. John Yudkin has pointed out, there is a far clearer relationship between sugar consumption and coronary heart disease. Also, our bodies manufacture cholesterol from any food source, so limiting the intake of cholesterol-containing foods is not necessarily the answer. Cholesterol is necessary to the functioning of our bodies, being used in the manufacture of sex hormones, vitamin D and bile.

Along with marveling at the current cultural amnesia evidenced by this quote (and whole book, really), it made me wonder if finding a way to procure John Yudkin's books Sweet and Dangerous and Pure, White and Deadly which are out of print, super expensive, and not to be found in a single library in my state is worth it. Anyone ever read them? Are they interesting only in a historical context or do they go beyond that?


UPDATE (4/23/2012) : I have become unhappy with Mediafire's PDF hosting abilities--the copy of PW&D that I had originally uploaded appears to have been corrupted--sorry for anyone who tried to get it and found only a muddy jumbled mess. I have uploaded it as a google doc and you can find it here: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B2FsXfJXQyd2QnNWYWpHQVJfLXM. If you have any problem, feel free to e-mail me (amanda.stjohn@goddard DOT edu) and I can re-upload. (It is going to say "Sorry, we are unable to scan this file for viruses. The file exceeds the maximum size that we scan." I can assure you I am not trying to infect you with any nasties--it is just a big file. Please feel safe to "download anyway.")

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55 · March 11, 2011 3:55 AM

John Yudkin's book Pure, White and Deadly is extremely difficult to find. I found it here:

http://wikisend.com/download/368810/John%20Yudkin%20-%20Pure,%20White%20and%20Deadly

After reading this book, you will become a Yudkin acolyte. Enjoy.

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55 · May 26, 2011 4:21 PM

John Yudkin's book Pure, White and Deadly is extremely difficult to find. I think wikisend is playing some games and exchanged the original link above with another that contains baby pictures. Here's a new link to the file:

http://wikisend.com/download/294454/John%20Yudkin%20-%20Pure,%20White%20and%20Deadly

After reading this book, you will become a Yudkin acolyte. Enjoy (until wikisend changes the link again).

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18909 · December 06, 2010 at 12:49 PM
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20 · May 15, 2011 5:45 PM

I downloaded "Yudkin Acolyte's" link and all I got was 76 megs of baby pictures.

Not what I expected.

Was that a joke or a typo in his link?

If it was a joke I'm not amused...

Keith

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2088 · December 04, 2010 1:02 AM

I wish I could find a reasonably priced copy of Pure White and Deadly, but I've been looking a long time and no dice.

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13680 · July 15, 2011 3:54 PM

Haven't read it, but I know Peter at Hyperlipid quotes him from time to time. The first link on the

From the first link, I love this paragraph quoting Yudkin-

I have already mentioned Dr Ancel Keys and his pioneer work in relation to diet and heart disease. A year or so ago he wrote a memorandum which he sent to a large number of scientists working in this field and which with very few changes has now been published in a medical journal 'Atherosclerosis'. It consists entirely of a strong criticism - I nearly said virulent criticism - of the work I have published from time to time on the theory that sugar is the main dietary factor involved in causing heart disease

Sugar, not cholesterol. Hmmmmm

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9983 · December 04, 2010 1:26 AM

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=john+yudkin&sortby=17&sts=t&x=56&y=12 Some good Yudkin books on page four and five but not the grandaddy Pure, White, Deadly. Sweet is available.

Stephan has blogged about Yudkin: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/08/cleave-and-yudkin-on-fats.html

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0 · May 22, 2013 7:08 AM

try Amazon UK they have copies for sale

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0 · March 06, 2013 3:25 PM

I know this is an old post but if anyone is interested Dr. John Yudkin's book "Pure White and Deadly" is back in print and on sale on Amazon.

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0 · January 25, 2013 3:51 PM

thanks for the google doc link for the pdf file!!

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0 · September 04, 2012 6:44 AM

Thank you for the link to the John Yudkin book. I have just discovered that it is to be released again later this year in paperback. The link is http://www.amazon.com/Pure-White-Deadly-John-Yudkin/dp/0241965284/ref=pd_cp_b_3

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0 · July 03, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Thanks Amanda,

The BBC doco is amazing.. Unfortunately we have followed the same (fat)al path here in Australia.

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0 · June 16, 2012 6:36 PM

My undying gratitude for this link. It downloaded perfectly, today, 16 June 2012. Yudkin's unavailable book should be out there for everyone. Let's hope the BBC documentary, broadcast this week (June 2012) on BBC4, creates a big enough demand to change that. Josephine

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0 · June 16, 2012 5:46 PM

THANKS!! Couldn't find this anywhere. This book was featured on the BBC docu: 'The men who made us fat' It looks like the boomerang is coming back on the legacy people who silenced Yudkin.

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0 · June 09, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Thanks Amanda for uploading it, I've been looking everywhere for it!

For those still asking, click this link and download anyway - its a pdf file without a virus https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B2FsXfJXQyd2QnNWYWpHQVJfLXM

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3608 · April 25, 2012 6:35 PM

I do have the pdf copy on my laptop. PM me if you're dying to get your hands on it, as I don't like uploading it in random places.

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0 · January 05, 2012 5:54 AM

Can anyone put up a new link to pure white and dangerous,

i am gettinga 404 error

thanx

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0 · July 31, 2011 1:32 PM

@Laurin - Laurin said, "the timing doesn't make sense. This book came BEFORE McGovern and Co... something doesn't add up about the timing of the obesity epidemic. I wonder if environmental toxins (not dietary) have more effect than Taubes and others (except maybe Dr. Mercola) believe."

I am at a disadvantage as I have not read Yudkin. But, I have seen Lustig and Taubes' lectures. Laurin, I would like to know why you believe the timing of the obesity epidemic is not in line with whatever you found in Yudkin's book. Without reading the book, and purely on listening to Lustig and Taubes' lectures, the obesity epidemic tacks well with the increase in sugar consumption that has been going for over a century. Did you mean that the lipid hypothesis, marked by the McGovern report, doesn't account for the previous 50 years of increased obesity?

And your toxin postulation is possible, or could be an exacerbating contributor if sugar is indeed the main culpable agent.

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0 · July 15, 2011 at 11:15 AM

I have tried to download the book using the links above, but all don't work.

Can someone put up a new link to Pure, White & Deadly?

Thanks

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20469 · December 04, 2010 4:10 AM

I think GCBC talks a bit about Yudkin's work, if I remember correctly.

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384 · December 04, 2010 3:31 AM

Ha, I have just gotten myhands on this book through Inter Library Loan! Just picked it up today, try your library!

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