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Ultimate fat source

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Created June 12, 2014 at 5:31 PM

I'm getting quite confused about which fat to choose.. Coconut oil, mac nuts/brazil nuts, avocado, grass fed butter, olive oil, fish oil, salmon - currently I'm only eating salmon, nuts, coconut oil and avocado, but should I switch to grass fed butter or olive oil instead?

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10994 · June 20, 2014 at 3:25 AM

Lol, I like this.

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10994 · June 19, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Then you have to see if the mice are free range, the fish are farm raised and if the insects are from pets mart or not.

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1087 · June 18, 2014 at 12:48 AM

I buy 5 gallons at a time. I have a friend who has a pizzeria, and through him I can get good oil for $31-32/gallon. This family (3 people) uses about 4.5 gallons per year.

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41341 · June 17, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Take your science/evidence as bullying meme elsewhere.

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0 · June 17, 2014 at 1:54 PM

I do believe that as it pertains to macro nutrients, everybody metabolizes them differently. If you have genetic lines to a more carnivorous/cold weather ancestry then saturated fats will better suite your needs. If you have a more tropical/herbivorous/warm weather ancestry then unsaturated fats ought to do it for you.

But this is to be taken with a grain of salt. Eat wholesome food with good sources of both fats and you will thrive. Although I do not recommend cooking with unsaturated fats at high temperatures.

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10161 · June 14, 2014 at 10:21 AM

Waxing is important Moondoggie! Surf's up!

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40 · June 14, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Allow me to add organ meats as a specification and general direction for the OP to follow~

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0 · June 13, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Actually yes, historically, it was the rendered oil of snakes, and was a Chinese remedy sold to people as a cure-all and probably did work because of the n-3 . Some places still sell it for spiritual purposes:

http://naturalmagickshop.com/spirit-guide-oils/Snake-oil.html

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0 · June 13, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Quackwatch and Wikipedia are gangs of bullies who use intimidation, policy and double talk to get their message across instead of yours. They masquerade as neutral and evidence based when really they just have an agenda like everyone else. I use "-Wikipedia" when I search and it has improved the quality of my results. I sometimes use Straight dope, but I avoid snopes as I've found them to inaccurate and full of popups. But at least they're not bullies like Q and W. Bullies unfortunately like to use them to bully others into shutting up instead of speaking their minds. Sad really.

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26072 · June 13, 2014 at 12:05 AM

awesome. I will email Peskin to see whether the snake oil he sells is grass-fed. Crazy, conventional wisdom is that snakes eat mice, fish, and insects.

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1005 · June 12, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Good catch. Seems like a nice guy, though. It looks like he was trying to promote a low carb diet with a balanced omega ratio <5:1 using grass-fed animal protein / wild seafood and nuts / seeds / cold-pressed organic fruit oils with chelated minerals to reduce heart disease risk / reduce cancer risk / lower blood pressure & cholesterol (looking at apoB) / prevent diabetes / manage ADD & make kids smarter, which I generally agree with. But, he put a little too much of a vegan snake oil spin on it with the plant-based "PEO" supps & term he tried to coin.. should have sold EVOO & mac nuts.

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1005 · June 12, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Pouring a processed polyunsaturated fat over your salad and drinking it with fruit juice everyday doesn't seem like a healthy habit to me at $45 a bottle.

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41341 · June 12, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Depends if it was grass-fed.

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26072 · June 12, 2014 at 10:08 PM

@Matt 11. Is snake oil high in O6 or O3?

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41341 · June 12, 2014 at 9:37 PM

Oh hey, He's got mentions on Quackwatch for his herbal supplements.

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41341 · June 12, 2014 at 9:37 PM

Journal of Lipids… sniff, sniff… open access, no name… probably will publish anything.

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41341 · June 12, 2014 at 9:34 PM

I'm suspect of Peskin. He's a snakeoil salesman.

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0 · June 12, 2014 at 9:01 PM

It's called "OmegaCure"; http://www.omega3innovations.com/index.php/omega-c...

I haven't really done that much research about it, but I hope it's good for my body..

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1005 · June 12, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Is it sold / stored in a dark hermetically-sealed glass bottle under refrigeration? I'd rather consume less PUFA than oxidized PUFA.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC391452...

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0 · June 12, 2014 at 8:34 PM

I only eat fish oil cause I can't find wild caught salmon. It's good quality oil though, from Norway.

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26072 · June 12, 2014 at 6:32 PM

fish oil is delicious, while it is still in the fish

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83 · July 07, 2014 at 4:28 PM

For pure fat butter oil/ghee/clarified butter is hands down the best in my opinion as it has fast burning SCFA's, MCFA's, plenty of MUFA, good 3:6 ratio, and then you got vitamins A, D, E, & K

Otherwise the fat that comes in offal/meat is likely the best, i'd go with plenty of fish as I can't seem to get enough of them and they have essential fatty acids rather than ones we can make endogenously

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17073 · June 20, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Wiseass answer: your own fat stores. Do an intermittent fast occasionally, burn baby burn. :)

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10994 · June 20, 2014 at 3:25 AM

Lol, I like this.

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14877 · June 18, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Subcutaneous fat.

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0 · June 14, 2014 at 11:07 AM

Coconut oil is consumed as on of the main source of fat or calories. Grass-fed beef ribs is also good fat source.

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41341 · June 13, 2014 at 6:38 PM

I've gone all-in with olive oil essentially. Sure I use some butter and don't fret about cooking veggies in beef or bacon fat that's left over, but olive oil is where it's at. I'm tempted to start buying by the gallon, I go through it that fast.

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1087 · June 18, 2014 at 12:48 AM

I buy 5 gallons at a time. I have a friend who has a pizzeria, and through him I can get good oil for $31-32/gallon. This family (3 people) uses about 4.5 gallons per year.

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2302 · June 13, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Use em all! I cook with Avocado Oil, Coconut Oil, Ghee and rendered Pork Fat. Salad dressing I use Olive Oil and Macadamia Nut Oil. I eat most all kinds of fatty meat as well as some nuts and plenty of avocados.

No reason to shoot for one "ultimate" fat source...keep it varied and you will get a wide range of nutrients, etc.

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0 · June 13, 2014 at 3:38 AM

depends what you want...

1. Obese and have an autoimmune inflammatory disease? Try beef fat, it might have an anti inflammatory effect even more than other saturated fats.. balancing Omega-6 with omega-3 each day is important too, but for that you'll need to track the amount every day with a food diary/journal. Or just do a pre-emptive strike and take a tablespoon of fish oil each evening.

2. Using ketogenic but want to be more "Paleo" and include a large salad every day? Maybe some berries even? Use coconut oil because it can help you maintain a higher state of ketosis despite a bit more carbs.

3. Have a cut or scrape? Try duck fat, it seems to hasten healing. (My personal experience, don't go looking for it on google and saying I made it up. )

Whatever fat you use, make sure it isn't refined and/or came from an animal that was given as much nutrition as possible (ie. grass-fed, or whatever is appropriate for the animal).

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1005 · June 12, 2014 at 6:31 PM

Fish oil is the only one that stands out to me in that list. The rest are delicious food items.

Coconut oil is a nice saturated fat you can cook up at high temps and convert to ketones a little easier with carbohydrates than say olive oil. I prefer olive oil raw. Seafood / nuts / fruits / butter are all ultimate fat sources in their own right. Rather than trade one out for another, eat all the fats. (Maybe trade grass fed butter for grass fed butter ghee made traditionally on the waxing phase of the moon?)

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10161 · June 14, 2014 at 10:21 AM

Waxing is important Moondoggie! Surf's up!

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26072 · June 12, 2014 at 10:08 PM

@Matt 11. Is snake oil high in O6 or O3?

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0 · June 12, 2014 at 9:01 PM

It's called "OmegaCure"; http://www.omega3innovations.com/index.php/omega-c...

I haven't really done that much research about it, but I hope it's good for my body..

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0 · June 12, 2014 at 8:34 PM

I only eat fish oil cause I can't find wild caught salmon. It's good quality oil though, from Norway.

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26072 · June 12, 2014 at 6:32 PM

fish oil is delicious, while it is still in the fish

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26072 · June 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM

why not meat? The ultimate fat source is a fools errand. Eat whole foods and Eat varied

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40 · June 14, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Allow me to add organ meats as a specification and general direction for the OP to follow~

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