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HACK MY ENDURANCE. ( gosh it feels cool saying that )

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Created April 25, 2012 at 4:43 PM

So I have been " paleo " " low-carb " " ancestral " for a few months so far. I have reaped many benefits. Better sex drive. Less acne ( yay! ) Definitely lower body fat and improved strength and " explosiveness " One thing that seems to be negative is my stamina. Before Paleo. When I was a OH NO VEGAN. I had pretty crappy digestion and felt less " manly " so to say. Haha. Basically my endurance and stamina is suffering. I get out of breath easier. I can't go as long when running or sparring. Could this be lipidemia, " A presence of excess lipids in the blood " slowing me down.? Everyday for breakfast I have eggs cooked in Kerrygold. I usually skip lunch ( you are so satisfied eating this way ) If I do have lunch I have a bunch of cooked greens in coconut oil, or butter. For dinner I either have free-range chicken, or some grass-fed beef. ( Yes I know I need some more variety ) and more greens.

Do you think this will pass? Has your endurance suffered? I would love to hear your suggestions! Thanks!

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3794 · April 25, 2012 at 11:43 PM

@foreveryoung: Here's a three day training log. You can decide for yourself if it's a "fail" or not. http://waroninsulin.com/nutrition/the-interplay-of-exercise-and-ketosis-part-i

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1631 · April 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Thanks. Just the kind of thing I was looking for!

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14877 · April 25, 2012 at 6:28 PM

I think healthy blood flow is vital for good health, and high fat diets consitently and significantly reduce arterial blood flow through reduced vasodilation. This is the one of the reasons I refuse to eat a high fat diet. And, in all honesty, what good is is a slight increase in testosterone when your vascular system sucks (along with the fact that fat increases aromatase activity)?

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14877 · April 25, 2012 at 6:26 PM

I think healthy blood flow is vital for good health, and high fat diets consitently and significantly reduce arterial blood flow through reduced vasodilation. This is the one of the reasons I refuse to eat a high fat diet. And, in all honesty, what good is high testosterone when your vascular system sucks (along with the fact that fat increases aromatase activity)?

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14877 · April 25, 2012 at 6:26 PM

I think healthy blood flow is vital for good health, and high fat diets consitently and significantly reduce arterial blood flow through reduced vasodilation. This is the one of the reasons I refuse to eat a high fat diet. And, in all honesty, what good is high testosterone when your vascular system sucks (along with the fact that fat increases aromatase activity).

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14877 · April 25, 2012 at 6:09 PM

I personally think htat diet seems unhealthy and unnatural. I am no expert by any means though. It's good that you're eating animal products after being a vegan, but it sounds like you're going one extreme to the next. A balanced paleo/primal diet works well for performance and aesthetics. Note the balanced part. Try taking some calories out and exchanging them for whole nutritious foods like fresh fruit.

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1631 · April 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Thanks! Your response is much appreciated. I will throw in more carbs considering I've been doing more endurance type exercise lately.

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14877 · April 25, 2012 at 6:02 PM

hhaha. I I bet it is going to be an epic fail.

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1631 · April 25, 2012 at 5:10 PM

If anything my strength has improved. I'm not talking about " hitting the wall " because of no glycogen left. I'm simply talking bloodflow.

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1631 · April 25, 2012 at 5:09 PM

I have not lost muscle mass. I know it sounds like I'm not eating much. But I'm eating ALOT. Plenty of protien and fat. I'm getting adequate calories. I'm talking 8 eggs for breakfast and some times 9 to ten chicken legs cooked in butter for dinner. If I have grassfed burgers I usually consume 3 of them cooked in butter with plenty of veggies and melted cheese on top.

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11683 · April 25, 2012 at 4:56 PM

care to elaborate?

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2393 · April 25, 2012 at 5:51 PM

I agree with both AA and foreveryoung. Eat more carbs. Increase the amount of yams/sweet potatoes in your diet. See if that helps. The way you eat and the way you train have to work in tandem in order for you to actually achieve your goals. As a CrossFit coach, when my training is more strength-specific and I'm not doing much conditioning, I eat very low carb, much like the diet you presented to us. When I AM doing conditioning, I increase my carb intake significantly. I'll even toss in some white rice here and there. Have an orange before you workout. Give it a try and see what happens. Experiment with things.

There is no magical macro-nutrient ratio that works for everyone.

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1631 · April 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Thanks! Your response is much appreciated. I will throw in more carbs considering I've been doing more endurance type exercise lately.

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14877 · April 25, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Your eating is not conducive to your goals. If you want to lose weight (most of it being muscle mass), then continue eating how you are. However, if you want to improve your endurance, build muscle, and/or stay lean, add some carbohydrate in. I have never met or heard of a successful endurance athlete eating a low calorie ketogenic diet like you are.

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1631 · April 25, 2012 at 5:09 PM

I have not lost muscle mass. I know it sounds like I'm not eating much. But I'm eating ALOT. Plenty of protien and fat. I'm getting adequate calories. I'm talking 8 eggs for breakfast and some times 9 to ten chicken legs cooked in butter for dinner. If I have grassfed burgers I usually consume 3 of them cooked in butter with plenty of veggies and melted cheese on top.

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14877 · April 25, 2012 at 6:26 PM

I think healthy blood flow is vital for good health, and high fat diets consitently and significantly reduce arterial blood flow through reduced vasodilation. This is the one of the reasons I refuse to eat a high fat diet. And, in all honesty, what good is high testosterone when your vascular system sucks (along with the fact that fat increases aromatase activity).

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1631 · April 25, 2012 at 5:10 PM

If anything my strength has improved. I'm not talking about " hitting the wall " because of no glycogen left. I'm simply talking bloodflow.

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14877 · April 25, 2012 at 6:28 PM

I think healthy blood flow is vital for good health, and high fat diets consitently and significantly reduce arterial blood flow through reduced vasodilation. This is the one of the reasons I refuse to eat a high fat diet. And, in all honesty, what good is is a slight increase in testosterone when your vascular system sucks (along with the fact that fat increases aromatase activity)?

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11683 · April 25, 2012 at 4:56 PM

care to elaborate?

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14877 · April 25, 2012 at 6:26 PM

I think healthy blood flow is vital for good health, and high fat diets consitently and significantly reduce arterial blood flow through reduced vasodilation. This is the one of the reasons I refuse to eat a high fat diet. And, in all honesty, what good is high testosterone when your vascular system sucks (along with the fact that fat increases aromatase activity)?

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14877 · April 25, 2012 at 6:09 PM

I personally think htat diet seems unhealthy and unnatural. I am no expert by any means though. It's good that you're eating animal products after being a vegan, but it sounds like you're going one extreme to the next. A balanced paleo/primal diet works well for performance and aesthetics. Note the balanced part. Try taking some calories out and exchanging them for whole nutritious foods like fresh fruit.

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3794 · April 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM

I always answer "thyroid" in answer to endurance/fatigue questions because I've had that experience of poor performance in spite of training and adding carbs to my diet, but improvement with thyroid hormone replacement. (I'm talking about hypothyroidism, not "low T3 syndrome". Low T3 from exercise, calorie-restriction, or carb-restriction can exacerbate pre-existing hypothyroidism, but there's no evidence that it causes it.)

Otherwise, the usual suspects are overtraining, too few calories, or too little carbohydrate.

If you are eating to satiety, it's probably not calories.

If glycogen levels are chronically low, you wouldn't have the experience of "hitting the wall" while exercising. In effect, you hit the wall as soon as you start. Also, it wouldn't necessarily show-up in sprinting or weight-training because intense exercise raises blood sugar all by itself (effect of adrenaline, noradrenaline on gluconeogenisis).

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1255 · April 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM

You might find this of interest/use - Peter Attia is doing a lot of self-testing for triathlon-type activities while in ketosis.

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3794 · April 25, 2012 at 11:43 PM

@foreveryoung: Here's a three day training log. You can decide for yourself if it's a "fail" or not. http://waroninsulin.com/nutrition/the-interplay-of-exercise-and-ketosis-part-i

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14877 · April 25, 2012 at 6:02 PM

hhaha. I I bet it is going to be an epic fail.

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1631 · April 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Thanks. Just the kind of thing I was looking for!

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1578 · April 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM

If you really think you have symptoms of lipidemia then go to a doc. If you're endurance is suffering & you think it's not because of your 0 carb intake, Maybe you need to reconsider your training regime.

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