Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? - PaleoHacks.com most recent 30 from http://paleohacks.com 2013-05-21T15:12:32Z http://paleohacks.com/feeds/question/110875 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? CaveMan_Mike 2012-04-09T19:36:37Z 2013-04-15T04:37:28Z <p>I just tried Kefir fir the first time. The bottle says 15 billion per serving.</p> <p>I normally use chobani greek yogurt. (I don't have a tub in front of me, but I don't remember if it ever mentioned counts).</p> <p>So, what has more probiotic power? (Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt)???</p> <p>Thanks, Mike</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt/110876#110876 Answer by Matt B for Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? Matt B 2012-04-09T19:39:00Z 2012-04-09T19:39:00Z <p>I don't think it truly matters - I think you're reading into the marketing hype. 14 megapixels! 18 megapixels! It's a good idea to diversify your probioitc sources, so the best move would be to enjoy some of each, and also try some kombucha, sauerkraut, kimchi, etc..</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt/110878#110878 Answer by Nance for Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? Nance 2012-04-09T19:44:08Z 2012-04-09T19:44:08Z <p>In general, kefir--either dairy or water--has many more species of beneficial flora than yogurt. The marketing of "16 million" doesn't touch on how many species. I've read that good yogurt will have 2-5 species (with large total counts) while kefir may have dozens.</p> <p>Kefir and kombucha are more powerful--so much so that it's advisable to start with very small daily doses while such caution is frequently not necessary with yogurt.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt/110880#110880 Answer by Mat for Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? Mat 2012-04-09T19:46:55Z 2012-04-09T19:46:55Z <p>I take a supplement once a day with 50BILLION.. I don't remember the exact types but I could look it up.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt/110884#110884 Answer by Jules K for Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? Jules K 2012-04-09T20:06:47Z 2012-04-09T20:06:47Z <p>Greek yogurt has most of the whey strained off, and I believe that's where a lot of the bacteria reside (I'm not 100% on this, but fairly certain). Kefir FTW!</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt/110902#110902 Answer by Eugenia for Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? Eugenia 2012-04-09T22:08:05Z 2012-04-09T22:40:37Z <p>Real kefir (not store-bought, which doesn't contain yeasts) is a super-food, with up to 40 different strains of yeasts &amp; bacteria. Consider that I'm Greek, but I root for Kefir.</p> <p>I read somewhere that a cup of yogurt contains up to 1 trillion bacteria, and kefir up to 5 trillion, I don't know if these numbers are correct though.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt/110971#110971 Answer by desi for Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? desi 2012-04-10T05:21:31Z 2012-04-10T05:21:31Z <p>Depending on how long the product has been sitting on the shelf also reflects the probiotic strength,so if you have fresher yogurt and not so fresh kefir,I'd go with the yogurt.But in general kefir has more strains.I make both at home and from experience know that some organic yogurts are dead,because the don't work as a starter.So,I guess it depends on the brand</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt/158603#158603 Answer by Carrie for Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? Carrie 2012-10-28T18:20:16Z 2012-10-28T18:20:16Z <p>its all marketing anyway. . however the <a href="http://www.lattausa.com/about-kefir/" rel="nofollow">kefir yogurt</a> tastes better to me than greek yogurt. </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt/158692#158692 Answer by Janknitz for Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? Janknitz 2012-10-29T04:08:55Z 2012-10-29T04:08:55Z <p>I recently heard a lecture by Sandor Katz who has written two books on fermentation. ALL of the yogurt cultures commonly available In the US are primarily from two major strains. Kefir has many more. </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt/190474#190474 Answer by Terry J. Crebs for Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? Terry J. Crebs 2013-04-09T17:17:28Z 2013-04-09T17:17:28Z <p>I'm Greek too, and make my Home-made Greek yogurt (Yiayia's recipe), kefir (milk and water), sauerkraut, and many cheeses. Recently (5-Mar-2013) I had Warren Analytical Labratories of Greeley, Colorado, USA assay some of my ferments for "Lactic Acid Bacteria MB 075 (Spiral)", here are the results:</p> <p>1) Milk Kefir -- 2.6 Billion Colony Forming Units per milliliter (CFU/ml); 2) Water Kefir -- 1.2 Billion CFU/ml; 3) Greek Yogurt -- 60 Million CFU/gram (note for water, 1 milliliter = 1 gram); 4) Cabbage Sauerkraut -- 5.3 Million CFU/gram; and, 5) Health-Food-Store-bought Greek yogurt -- 1.1 Million CFU/gram.</p> <p>I make my ferments for less than $8 per gallon, and believe highly-processed store-bought probiotic ferments and pills are outragelessly expensive. Learn to ferment real delicious food and live healthy like Mediterranean people often do.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt/191443#191443 Answer by Warbler for Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? Warbler 2013-04-15T00:02:32Z 2013-04-15T00:02:32Z <p>Kefir grains grow into a cauliflower like glob. I bought mine on eBay: <a href="http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984.m570.l1311.R11.TR11.TRC1&amp;_nkw=kefir+culture&amp;_sacat=0&amp;_from=R40" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984.m570.l1311.R11.TR11.TRC1&amp;_nkw=kefir+culture&amp;_sacat=0&amp;_from=R40</a> </p> <p>These folks have a useful screen container to grow it in: <a href="http://www.culturesforhealth.com/milk-kefir-starter-kit.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.culturesforhealth.com/milk-kefir-starter-kit.html</a></p> <p>You can use milk or water, though I prefer raw goat milk. Let the milk reach room temperature (unless you're getting it straight from the goat), add the grains or clump. It should ferment at room temperature for about 30 hrs to be most beneficial. (See <em>Restoring Your Digestive Health</em> by Jordan S. Rubin, NMD and Joseph Brasco, MD).</p> <p>After that time (actually I taste test mine), I remove the clump, freeze with a little goat milk in a plastic container for next time and refrigerate the kefir.</p> <p>Just yesterday I took the store bought stuff (which just tastes like runny yogurt) and put some clumps in it for about 48 hrs. It improved the flavor and now tastes like actual kefir.</p> <p>It does continue to grow in the refrigerator, but at a much slower rate.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/110875/probiotic-counts-kefir-vs-greek-yogurt/191483#191483 Answer by Nirinjan for Probiotic Counts: Kefir vs. Greek Yogurt? Nirinjan 2013-04-15T04:37:28Z 2013-04-15T04:37:28Z <p>Yes, kefir will have more types of bacteria and yeast over yogurt type ferments. Plus making fresh kefir seems to be more active and very easy to make.</p> <p>You can get fresh kefir starter here: store.organic-cultures.com or dried kefir starter at www.cultures for health.com</p> <p>The dried starter will take a few rounds to become active over the fresh grains</p> <p>Happy culturing,</p> <p>Nirinjan</p>