Taking nightshade plants out, what is the consensus on blueberries and strawberries since they too have Solanine? - PaleoHacks.com most recent 30 from http://paleohacks.com2013-05-25T16:29:40Zhttp://paleohacks.com/feeds/question/12983http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://paleohacks.com/questions/12983/taking-nightshade-plants-out-what-is-the-consensus-on-blueberries-and-strawberriTaking nightshade plants out, what is the consensus on blueberries and strawberries since they too have Solanine?Hydrangea2010-10-26T22:11:20Z2010-10-27T01:11:33Z
<p>My pain all over has continued to improve on this diet. I also took out nightshade plants.</p>
<p>Now that I am finding relief, I want to make sure I am not eating any problem foods that may also be contributing to pain. </p>
<p>I just learned paprika is a nightshade as well which I had no idea. Also found out blueberries and strawberries also contain Solanine which is the same toxic substance in nightshade plants.</p>
<p>Is there a comprehensive list of nightshade plants and other toxic foods that are now linked to causing problems and pain that folks on Paleo diet can refer to? </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/12983/taking-nightshade-plants-out-what-is-the-consensus-on-blueberries-and-strawberri/12986#12986Answer by PrimalStyle for Taking nightshade plants out, what is the consensus on blueberries and strawberries since they too have Solanine?PrimalStyle2010-10-26T22:30:51Z2010-10-26T22:30:51Z<p>No please don't take my strawberries and blueberries :-). I have decided to give up nightshades too. I tried eggplant last weekend and I don't really care for it anyway. What else is on that list? I love tomatoes as well, but I'm going to curtail the peppers.</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/12983/taking-nightshade-plants-out-what-is-the-consensus-on-blueberries-and-strawberri/12995#12995Answer by Mark for Taking nightshade plants out, what is the consensus on blueberries and strawberries since they too have Solanine?Mark2010-10-26T22:52:33Z2010-10-26T22:52:33Z<p>I was wondering the <a href="http://paleohacks.com/questions/9624/what-is-the-latest-on-nightshades#axzz13VYrmtnq" rel="nofollow">same thing</a>. The consensus seems to be that if you can tolerate them, fine. But if an elimination diet shows you that nightshades are a problem for you, get rid of them.</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/12983/taking-nightshade-plants-out-what-is-the-consensus-on-blueberries-and-strawberri/13001#13001Answer by Matt for Taking nightshade plants out, what is the consensus on blueberries and strawberries since they too have Solanine?Matt2010-10-26T23:19:08Z2010-10-26T23:19:08Z<p>I have seen the statement that non-nightshade plants like strasberries, blueberries, okra and artichokes contain Solanine being made around the web.</p>
<p>However I can find no evidence for this, just people repeating the fact without ever giving a source for the information.</p>
<p>Untill I see some actual evidence that these non-nightshade plants contain Solanine I will assume they do not.</p>
<p>Always be skeptical of what you read on the web.</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/12983/taking-nightshade-plants-out-what-is-the-consensus-on-blueberries-and-strawberri/13007#13007Answer by Superhuman for Taking nightshade plants out, what is the consensus on blueberries and strawberries since they too have Solanine?Superhuman2010-10-27T01:11:33Z2010-10-27T01:11:33Z<p>Copied from another <a href="http://www.imminst.org/forum/topic/39833-nutrigenomics/" rel="nofollow">source</a>:</p>
<p>Plants and animals that could be naturally found by Northern / Western European populations during the winter months.</p>
<ul>
<li>Fatty beef roast (analogue to Reindeer)</li>
<li>Pork / Pork belly (analogue to wild Boar)</li>
<li>Chicken or Duck (analogue to wild birds)</li>
<li>Kale (unknown origin, grows well in cold climates)</li>
<li>Chard (grows native in the Mid-Southern Europe and Asia)</li>
<li>Broccoli (grows native throughout Europe)</li>
<li>Fish</li>
<li>Shellfish</li>
<li>Eggs</li>
<li>Organ meat if I can find / afford it from organic sources</li>
<li><a href="http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/634676" rel="nofollow">Blood sausage</a></li>
<li>Small amounts of frozen blueberries (common in Northern Europe)</li>
<li>Mushrooms</li>
<li>Fish oil</li>
<li><a href="http://www.nutcrackermuseum.com/history_nuts.htm" rel="nofollow">Nuts</a> / seeds (link to article on historic consumption of nuts)</li>
</ul>
<p>Here is <a href="http://www.eng.samer.se/servlet/GetDoc?meta_id=1203" rel="nofollow">some information on the Sami people</a>. They live amongst the arctic circle in Northern Sweden, Norway, etc and eat almost exclusively animal protein / fat. I'm not of Sami ethnicity, but they are the closest thing to a subsistence culture still living in Northern Europe. </p>
<p>Some foods that I originally thought might have been eaten by indigenous, Northern European living peoples are:</p>
<ul>
<li>Some form of potato - Most potatoes (sweet potato, etc) are tropically grown and originally from South America.</li>
<li>Parsnip - Originally from Eurasia, brought to Europe through early trade (?). Only can be grown in cold climates, so may still be appropriate if in limited quantities?</li>
<li>Carrot - The modern carrot is from Afghanistan, brought to Europe through trade. Wild carrots in Europe are only edible in the spring and in small amounts. Some small amount of carrot may be acceptable in the diet? </li>
<li>Beets - Traditionally available in Southern to Mid Europe along the Atlantic coast and in Asia. Not historically available to Northern Europe until the introduction of agriculture.I may reconcile the regional discrepancy by including some beet greens (chard).</li>
<li>Spinach- Grown in warm climates, native to Asia. </li>
</ul>