Are supplements necessary? - PaleoHacks.com most recent 30 from http://paleohacks.com 2013-05-21T23:33:25Z http://paleohacks.com/feeds/question/140688 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://paleohacks.com/questions/140688/are-supplements-necessary/140691#140691 Answer by invisible ink for Are supplements necessary? invisible ink 2012-08-04T21:19:12Z 2012-08-04T21:19:12Z <p>I stand by my supplements (not multivitamins). I eat really clean but I don't think I eat enough of certain important things like magnesium, selenium, and zinc and I certainly don't get enough D3 or K2 without supplementing. I also am hypothyroid and have PCOS so I find the supplements extremely beneficial and don't believe I would feel the same level of wellness just from my diet alone, as I can tell a noticeable difference when I don't supplement for a few days.</p> <p>As for cheap quality, I don't buy my supplements at Walmart or anyplace that sells low quality stuff. I stick to brands like Now and a few others that I buy from Iherb. I don't know if I'm right but I think their turnover is pretty high so I'm not getting old crappy stuff and I can watch out for nasty fillers by reading all the ingredients.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/140688/are-supplements-necessary/140692#140692 Answer by Poop Master MC for Are supplements necessary? Poop Master MC 2012-08-04T21:20:07Z 2012-08-04T21:20:07Z <p>No they are not necessary for most people, hope that answers your question.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/140688/are-supplements-necessary/140693#140693 Answer by foreveryoung for Are supplements necessary? foreveryoung 2012-08-04T21:21:41Z 2012-08-04T21:44:38Z <p>Supplements should be just that- a supplement to an already healthy diet. They are not usually necessary and they will not make up for a poor quality diet or lifestyle, but they can be useful if you already have solid groundwork and want to optimize in some places. I used to use protein powders too (whey protein and casein protein), and when I stopped I did not suffer any declines in performance or body composition. I still take a few supplements like r-ala, coq10 ubiquinol, and tyrosine. I take D3 in the winter time and a multivitamin about about once a week. Supplements supplement.</p> <p>And your reasoning that because the market is not regulated, it is filled with sub-quality items is a misconception on 3 levels. First, it is regulated- the FDA often pulls supplements from the market because ingredients have become banned. If companies continue selling supplements with banned ingredients, they will get sued. </p> <p>Second, there are many different supplement markets as well- you can't just speak of "the supplement market" because consumers of supplements all have different preferences. Some want bodybuilding supplements, some want discount supplements, some want high quality amino acid supplements, some want discount amino acids, some want herbal supplements, etc. Gaia, for instance, does not directly compete with Gaspari Nutrition, even though they are both in the broadly defined "supplement market." Gaia competes more directly with things like Life Extension and Garden of LIfe. So, if you are looking for high quality herbal supplements, you're likely not browsing the aisles of CVS pharmacy or pursuing bodybuilding.com (although they have more recently begun carrying Gaia and other higher quality, longeivty/herbal sups). ANother example would be that Gaspari competes with BSN, and which ever one delivers a better product geared towards increasing workout motivation (super pump vs noxplode) that one will reap higher rewards (profits). There are untold companies you have not heard of because they've been competed out of business by their market.</p> <p>Third, you act as if an unregulated market is a bad thing. I already addressed that it is intact overtly regulated by the FDA, in that you cannot sell supplements with banned ingredients. However, it is also regulated in another way- you cannot sell supplements that consumers do not trust or want. That is, you can't sell supplements that consumers will not buy, and if consumers are not buying them, then you are out of business and no longer in the industry. However, if you were regulated by the government, you could get bailed out even if you were insolvent (think US postal service, AIG, etc). That's a considerable downside of regulation. Additionally on this point, no barriers to entry (lack of entry regulations) is a good thing, as it means everyone gets a fair chance to compete, and more people can enter the market. More people entering the market means fiercer competition, which weeds out companies that do not reach consumer satisfaction (based upon whatever their goals, values, etc). </p> <p>So, as you can see, "the supplement industry" broadly is overtly regulated by the FDA and directly by the consumer. It is not regulated in that there are zero barriers to entry (anyone can try their hand in the business), which ultimately means more perfect competition (as free entry is a requirement for perfect competition to exist within neoclassical and wahlrasian framework). </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/140688/are-supplements-necessary/140699#140699 Answer by BoneBrothFast for Are supplements necessary? BoneBrothFast 2012-08-04T21:57:07Z 2012-08-04T21:57:07Z <p>Necessary for what? Adequate "good" health? Nope, except in special circumstances, namely GI issues and liver issues. </p> <p>Necessary for "perfect" or "great" health? Most likely. This is due to the poor soil and conditions of animals nowadays. In addition, plant breeding and hybridization has bred some of the nutrition of plants out and increased some of the undesirable traits (undesirable for health-conscious people, desirable for the food industry.)</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/140688/are-supplements-necessary/140735#140735 Answer by CD for Are supplements necessary? CD 2012-08-05T01:45:35Z 2012-08-05T01:45:35Z <p>not necessary. But proper diet in today's world (especially in the winter when farmers markets are gone and your stuck with limited produce at the super market) is not always possible. I've found that my iodine, copper, D, and Omega 3s are insufficient in the winter, so I supplement.</p>