most recent 30 from http://paleohacks.com 2013-06-20T09:29:57Z http://paleohacks.com/feeds/question/148742 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo Kath 2012-09-11T23:11:41Z 2012-09-14T21:28:51Z

<p>“By eating meat we share the responsibility of climate change, the destruction of our forests, and the poisoning of our air and water. The simple act of becoming a vegetarian will make a difference in the health of our planet.” ― Thich Nhat Hanh, The World We Have: A Buddhist Approach to Peace and Ecology</p> <p>Any thoughts?</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/148744#148744 Matt 2012-09-11T23:22:08Z 2012-09-11T23:22:08Z

<p>Is eating the wild deer contributing to those ills and evils? Is eating a wild salmon or tuna? How about that grass-fed cow that is actually at worst carbon neutral? (Joel Salatin seems to think they sequester carbon even!) Nope, nope and nope. </p> <p>How about wheat, soy or corn grown monoculture? That's definitely more destructive than wild or traditionally farmed foods. </p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/148747#148747 Art 2012-09-11T23:39:51Z 2012-09-11T23:39:51Z

<p>Utter nonsense.....</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/148751#148751 Heidi 2012-09-11T23:49:16Z 2012-09-11T23:49:16Z

<p>The difference it will make in the health of the planet is ill-health for it's inhabitants and ill-health for the soils that require animal and plants to coexist together.</p> <p>This is a horribly simplistic and horribly wrong solution for our completely broken food system.</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/148754#148754 matthew 2012-09-12T00:02:32Z 2012-09-12T00:02:32Z

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heWprUncqIw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heWprUncqIw</a> </p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/148758#148758 McKenzie 2012-09-12T00:22:32Z 2012-09-12T00:22:32Z

<p>I think anyone who quotes that should read "The Vegetarian Myth"</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/148763#148763 Colin 2012-09-12T00:37:34Z 2012-09-12T00:37:34Z

<p>B12 deficiency is not prevalent in <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15189123" rel="nofollow">Asia</a> except in vegetarians. Ya probably not a good idea. </p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/148764#148764 nada 2012-09-12T00:47:25Z 2012-09-12T00:47:25Z

<p>it's crap. one way to have an idea of how retarded a movement is is to observe how annoying its followers are. </p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/148793#148793 Jamie 2012-09-12T03:27:59Z 2012-09-12T03:27:59Z

<p>My thought is that the dalai lama is a better buddhist.</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/148836#148836 Chappy 2012-09-12T13:44:21Z 2012-09-12T13:44:21Z

<p>This is a difficult one for me. On the one hand food production in a Paleo world would be much more sustainable than our current intensive agriculture, in terms of pollution, climate change and resource management. But I very much doubt it could feed nearly as many people.</p> <p>Say what you like about grains, but they do produce vastly more calories per acre than meat. If the world switched to a Paleo-style diet overnight, I guess we would be eating a lot of potatoes.</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/148853#148853 mindmt 2012-09-12T15:34:01Z 2012-09-12T15:34:01Z

<p>Buddhists are stuck in their own mantra. The Buddha would not have made such an ignorant statement! </p> <p>For what it's worth, compare with the traditional daoist viewpoint - that we are inhabited by three "worms" that feed on the putrefaction caused by consuming the "five grains". Paleo isn't new!</p> <p>Lierre Keith is the go to girl if you are looking for answers to the sustainability dilemma. Send her book to Thich Nhat Hanh!</p> <p>Waste/desert lands are elegantly recovered by raising cattle - not by crop "rotation"!</p> <p>Grrrrr!</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/148860#148860 Asclepius 2012-09-12T16:02:54Z 2012-09-14T08:23:51Z

<p>Veg*nism simply pushes the killing to where it can't be seen! There is still death and destruction with modern arable farming practices.</p> <p>Go look at a farmed piece of monocropped land. It is a chemically cleansed monoculture (and that is at the height of growth prior to harvest). After the harvest the soil is exposed, eroded and leeched of nutrients which (in intensive Western farming) requires amonium nitrate fertiliser to redress. The toxins used to cleanse the land kill bug life and wash off (along with the soil) to kill aquatic life in the water cycle.</p> <p>In contrast look at arable pasture. Biodiverse and rich in life. The animals are drought/flood tolerant (unlike crops). Larger animals with large fat stores can tolerate famine. If the weather turns nasty, animals can be herded to safer areas (unlike crops). </p> <p>More interestingly animals can be used to restore the land - implemented as part of the life cycle and general health of the land. </p> <p>Two examples of this can be found here:</p> <p><a href="http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20616FE3C5A0C728CDDAC0894DD404482" rel="nofollow">http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20616FE3C5A0C728CDDAC0894DD404482</a></p> <p>and here:</p> <p><a href="http://challenge.bfi.org/node/2104" rel="nofollow">http://challenge.bfi.org/node/2104</a></p> <p>Here is a recommended reading list that shows how animals can be used as part of your food cycle:</p> <ol> <li>"Meat a Benign Extravagance" by Simon Fairlie </li> <li>"We Want Real Food" by Graham Harvey</li> <li>"So Shall We Reap" by Colin Tudge</li> <li>"The Power of Duck" by Takao Furuno</li> <li>"The Carbon Fields" by Graham Harvey*</li> </ol> <p>*I've not read this one but have read his <a href="http://www.grahamsgrassroots.blogspot.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">blog</a>.</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/149364#149364 meta 2012-09-14T14:03:27Z 2012-09-14T14:03:27Z

<p>It's a legitimate clarion call. </p> <p>Modern consumption of meat is simply unsustainable - please spare me the "eating wild deer" nonsense. What proportion of paleo followers can do that?</p> <p>Paleo is also about adapting to what is available from the environment. </p> <p>There is a reason why humans are omnivores. </p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/149367#149367 Dr. Mitchell J Morris PhD 2012-09-14T14:16:58Z 2012-09-14T14:16:58Z

<p>I believe this quote is just a tool to push he author's political agenda. </p> <p>Grass feeding livestock is actual GOOD for the environment. A lot of ecosystems developed along with the grazing ruminates and depend on them to survive. The american grass land has a huge caring capacity for wild buffalo. Too bad the were over hunted.</p> <p>Don't take my word for it, grass feeding livestock is being used right now to reverse desertification in Zimbabwe.</p> <p><a href="http://www.new-ag.info/en/focus/focusItem.php?a=1775" rel="nofollow">http://www.new-ag.info/en/focus/focusItem.php?a=1775</a></p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/148742/what-do-you-think-of-this-quote-in-relation-to-paleo/149369#149369 Alvaro 2012-09-14T14:24:31Z 2012-09-14T21:28:51Z

<p>I think we should ban industrialized farming in general, not only because of how detrimental it is to the health of nature, but because it's inhumane.</p> <p>Turning to vegetarianism, wouldn't change anything, ecologically wise.</p>