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Addressing fat's benefits and drawbacks

2012-10-15T14:54:22Z

to me the best way to achieve this is to incorporate idea's from all the different sides of low-fat, paleo, and WAPF.

Let's first look at fat. I feel the evidence strongly supports the notion that a high intake of palmitic acid leads to a bunch of gunk in your arteries. This gunk probably won't kill you in the context of a paleo diet but its not optimal.

http://paleohacks.com/questions/55351/cvd-saturated-fat-and-atherosclerosis-what-is-the-paleo-argument

http://www.meandmydiabetes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MMD-2010-03-Cordain-on-Phinney-and-Sat-Fats.mp3

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/95/1/26.abstract

http://www.meandmydiabetes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Atherosclerosis-in-Pre-Westernized-Inuit.pdf

Now what is the advocating argument for high fat intake?

Fat displaces carbohydrates from the diet.
Fat provides important vitamins

Number 1 is a matter of picking your poison, and in light of what I mentioned earlier I don't feel that fat>carbohydrates in terms of macronutrient fuel. Number 2 can be addressed while still eating low-fat total calories. By supplementing and/or eating some liver.

Does this idea sound good? Basically here we are taking WAPF's idea's and mixing them with a low-fat diet that promotes better blood flow.

Answer by Crowbar for Addressing fat's benefits and drawbacks

2012-10-15T16:08:42Z

Actually, number one should read: Fat increases satiety, allowing a person to consume less calories while not feeling deprived, hungry, and punished, as one does with a low-fat, carbohydrate diet. This then leads to feelings of guilt, shame, and lack of control when, invariably, low-fat high carb dieters crash and burn, because they've completely failed to address the damage that high carbs has caused.

At no point have I read, "fat displaces carbohydrates from the diet", as a reason for anything, in and of itself.

Answer by Sunshine for Addressing fat's benefits and drawbacks

2012-10-15T16:51:45Z

It's also important to remember that fat HELPS the body absorb vitamins. So supplementing vitamins without fat in your diet is pointless. However, you do not need a butt load of fat in order to accomplish this.

Fat also provides building blocks for cellular membranes, hormones, energy, etc. So as long as you consume ENOUGH fat to do all of this, then what you suggest should be no issue.

As for inducing satiety, it depends on the person. Fat does not make me feel full.

Answer by Deniz for Addressing fat's benefits and drawbacks

2012-10-15T16:57:06Z

Paleo without fat = Faileo for a reason.

Answer by AmandaLP for Addressing fat's benefits and drawbacks

2012-10-15T17:54:31Z

The whole premise of Dr. Price's research is that indigenous and Anscesteral cultures ate a whole lot more fat soluble vitamins, in the form of animal fats. You CANNOT do the WAPF diet as low fat.

That said, there are a wide range of cultures, and the percentages of carbs and fat carried between them . Protein ranges from 15 to 20%, almost regardless of source. Wile you can choose to have a higher percentage of carbohydrates, you will always need the higher fat intake to get the vitamins we need. For example, the Swiss culture has a main source of fat and protein from cheese, but has a lower meat intake and lots of sourdough bread.

http://www.westonaprice.org/basics/adventures-in-macro-nutrient-land looks at Macros I. The WAPF diet.

Lastly, the body produces palmitic acid from excess carbohydrate. So, you can eat a higher carb diet, and the body will produce the palmitic acid, or you can eat the fat directly.