Low dietary glucose causing slow wound healing? - PaleoHacks.com most recent 30 from http://paleohacks.com 2013-05-19T11:50:36Z http://paleohacks.com/feeds/question/38174 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://paleohacks.com/questions/38174/low-dietary-glucose-causing-slow-wound-healing Low dietary glucose causing slow wound healing? Leo 2011-05-13T14:33:31Z 2012-12-21T18:48:28Z <p>Background info:</p> <p>I, like most people, started out on high-fat, low-carb paleo with tons of green vegetables, cauliflower, nuts and berries as my main sources. After a few months of worsened strength and performance, I jumped on the potato and rice train and have never felt better.</p> <p>Now, one thing that was odd when I went paleo was that small injuries- like a little cut or scrape would take weeks to heal. There are a couple of threads on paleohacks that attribute slow wound healing to vitamin deficiency, especially vitamin C.</p> <p>Well after a few months of eating 2 or 3 potatoes a day, I managed to give myself a pretty serious stabbing when I was pitting an avocado (another topic, but seriously folks, use a spoon! I now its lame, but I did some likely permanent damage to myself and I've pitted thousands of avocados safely with a knife before, so it wasn't from lack of experience).</p> <p>It was a pretty deep cut and went throught the fat, muscle and knicked the tendon, but by the time I got to urgent care it was closed up to the point that the doctor pulled on it gently and it wouldn't open. It felt mostly better within 4 days and it's been two weeks now and it's completely healed, although I'm still dealing with scar tissue hindering my tendon and I haven't gotten my full range of movement back, but I'm about 85% there. My doc is astounded.</p> <p>Okay, long story, but I am seriously curious about what happened. On a diet with lots of nutrious, vitamin rich vegetables and berries (lots of vitamin C from brocolli and strawberries) I could barely get a paper cut to close up and now eating less nutritious plant foods, mostly potatoes, rice, onions, carrots and bananas, I am like wolverine with special healing powers?</p> <p>Could it be that on low-carb paleo, if you aren't eating a ton of protein, then you could have problems with all those body building needs, such as wound healing? Was all the protein I was eating being diverted to my glucose needs? Although my vitamin intake from vegetables has gone down, my potassium intake has gone up from daily potatoes and bananas. Could that have something to do with it?</p> <p>Anyone else experience anything similar? Maybe we should all be more careful about glucose, whether you get it from protein or carbs. Make sure you eat enough of either.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/38174/low-dietary-glucose-causing-slow-wound-healing/38206#38206 Answer by Stephanie H. for Low dietary glucose causing slow wound healing? Stephanie H. 2011-05-13T17:29:17Z 2011-05-13T17:29:17Z <p>Or, you could put manuka honey on the injury and provide the glucose directly where the healing energy is needed, along with the antibacterial properties of the honey. Manuka honey is being mused medically to treat long-term diabetic ulcers and bedsores and the published results in the medical journals are very promising. </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/38174/low-dietary-glucose-causing-slow-wound-healing/38213#38213 Answer by PrimalCG for Low dietary glucose causing slow wound healing? PrimalCG 2011-05-13T17:53:57Z 2011-05-13T17:53:57Z <p>I've definitely experienced this as well as I mentioned in my question Sport and Starches. I play a fair bit of ice hockey and while on full paleo with minimal starches or even limited starches (post-hockey) I noticed that bruises on my legs were taking FOREVER to heal. I haven't kept the actual data for it so I suppose it's not very scientific, but experience tells me that now that I've upped starches considerably healing time is AT LEAST twice as fast.</p> <p>I've also experienced much better recovery from some HIIT sessions I do. Once a week I do lactic acid tolerance training with massive resistance of 30sec on / 1min off about eight times and it destroys my legs as you would expect. Before I sometimes had to put off the next session (aerobic training) days later just because my legs weren't close to ready. Since adding in starches however, I've seen improvements that are borderline astonishing. Keep in mind I'm eating loads of starches in most meals, but now I feel ready to go the next day if I have to and no longer have any hesitation about whether I am fully recovered.</p> <p>As to why this happens? I don't know, and maybe somebody with a good background in Biology could help, but it seems to me that since every cell in the body uses glucose that only by providing it in ample amounts will you operate at full efficiency. I'm sure on a cellular level recovery and wound healing would be a pretty taxing event. Sure, if you're not taking in glucose your body can go through processes to convert it but as in all cases of conversion it won't be optimal and you'll probably be running on fumes. So your cells take what they can get and make due but there's a bottleneck in the process and they are running at low efficiency. Add the starches in and give them all the fuel they could ask for and BOOM, Wolverine healing.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/38174/low-dietary-glucose-causing-slow-wound-healing/38214#38214 Answer by mari for Low dietary glucose causing slow wound healing? mari 2011-05-13T17:55:18Z 2011-05-13T17:55:18Z <p>Yes, carbs can definitely help wound healing. Glycoproteins need glucose, so a shortage would likely impair their formation. Also, car ohydrates are protein sparing because protein doesn't need to go towards gluconeogenesis. Lastly carbohydrates help recycle vitamin c, a deficiency of which, as you noted, will slow wound healing. Many paleo sources of carbs contain vitamin c too. </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/38174/low-dietary-glucose-causing-slow-wound-healing/144708#144708 Answer by Harmen for Low dietary glucose causing slow wound healing? Harmen 2012-08-23T11:12:36Z 2012-08-23T11:12:36Z <p>I have noticed increased speed of wound healing on Paleo. But I eat some carbs everyday (of which partly starchy), I think about 100 gr. I also keep my omega 3 intake above the omega 6 intake and take opti-men multivitamin 2 per day. </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/38174/low-dietary-glucose-causing-slow-wound-healing/168543#168543 Answer by Ted Hutchinson for Low dietary glucose causing slow wound healing? Ted Hutchinson 2012-12-21T18:48:28Z 2012-12-21T18:48:28Z <p><a href="http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&amp;pid=S0100-69912012000500011&amp;lng=en&amp;nrm=iso&amp;tlng=en" rel="nofollow">Vitamin D and skin repair</a> This study shows correcting vitamin D deficiency improves skin healthing. </p> <p>However this study used 50,000iu vitamin D each week which is not the most sensible way of restoring vitamin D status. How much vitamin D you require depends on how fat/skinny you are so using 1000iu/daily vitamin D3 for each 25lbs you weigh adjusts intake to body size. Up to 10,000iu is safe for daily use to raise 25(OH)D quickly. After 3~5 months a 25(OH)D (vitamin D) test will enable you to see if that daily intake is sufficient. If not increase by 1000iu/daily for every 10ng/ml under 50ng/ml or reduce intake by 1000iu/d for each 10ng/ml over 60ng/ml. </p> <p>You may also want to consider improving omega 3 status.</p> <p>This study <a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1524-475X.2010.00659.x/abstract" rel="nofollow">Fish oil supplementation alters levels of lipid mediators of inflammation in microenvironment of acute human wounds</a> used 1.6 g of EPA and 1.2 g of DHA per day (You need to look at the EPA and DHA numbers rather than used just 3 g fish oil daily. I find it's quicker/easier to use a concentrated liquid fish oil that provides EPA 650 mg DHA 450 mg per teaspoon so 3 teaspoons daily more than covers it)<br> They conclude that fish oil is likely to be cost effective in improving wound healing. They also suggest that people with poor wound healing may have suboptimal intakes of suboptimal caloric intake and lower than recommended daily intake of protein, vitamin C, and zinc. So it may be worth checking those as well. </p>