most recent 30 from http://paleohacks.com 2013-05-24T17:53:57Z http://paleohacks.com/feeds/question/45550 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://paleohacks.com/questions/45550/n1-is-self-experimentation-the-future none 2011-06-18T15:52:16Z 2011-06-19T14:40:26Z

<p><a href="http://www.selfcarejournal.com/view.article.php?id=10051" rel="nofollow">I was reading and pondering this article this morning.</a></p> <p>There is much talk on Paleo Hacks regarding self-experimentation. There are <a href="http://quantifiedself.com/" rel="nofollow">groups</a> and <a href="http://blog.sethroberts.net/" rel="nofollow">blogs</a> devoted to this subject. </p> <p>What do you think about the validity of self-experimentation?</p> <p>Do you think N=1 self experimentation can influence Health Care Providers?</p> <p>What is the weirdest thing you've tracked about your health, diet, exercise, etc?</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/45550/n1-is-self-experimentation-the-future/45552#45552 FED at LiveCaveman.com 2011-06-18T16:07:48Z 2011-06-18T16:07:48Z

<p>I definitely think that we are moving closer and closer to "self-knowledge". The fact that we have access to information via the internet that used to be possessed only by "experts" has allowed us to remove the "middleman" so to speak.</p> <p>We are also unbound by geography and physical space. For example, there is no way I could have conversations like the ones I have on PaleoHacks at my local library, park, or workplace. This group is an example of this "flattening" of barriers between affinity groups.</p> <p>We are going deeper into the long-tail of our own human experience rather than being defined by the lowest common denominator.</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/45550/n1-is-self-experimentation-the-future/45555#45555 A at Grain Free Diet 2011-06-18T16:36:29Z 2011-06-18T16:36:29Z

<p>I wonder if, to whatever extent, there are some that don't feel as if they have any other option. With so many people lacking health insurance in the US, doctors fees being high, salaries being low, and then even if they do spend the money to see a doctor it's can sometimes feel like the doc comes in, barely listens (or just flat out doesn't believe what you tell him/her **), writes a prescription for god only knows what, and then runs out. </p> <p>I guess I can just understand the frustration, and the feeling of "well who knows me better than me? I'll figure this out!"</p> <p>And on top of that, I think there is also a trust issue going on. Take "my plate" for example. All those grains would make me sick, but it's supposed to be "healthy" for me. So I guess I also wonder how much self experimentation is born out of realizing that just one piece of mainstream medical advice is wrong and then having that trust broken.</p> <p>Is it valid? I don't see how it's any less valid than anything else. When it comes down to it, you only have the one life to live. So either you can figure out how you, personally, can really enjoy your time here, or you can do things that don't work for you because someone says it should and spend your life (possibly) miserable. </p> <p>** Just as an aside: I have a lower body temperature than most. I always have. I've had thyroid tests and they all came back fine. This is just the way I am. Over the years when I've told doctors this, they've rolled their eyes at me or told me I was full of ----. Seriously, of all the things I could possibly lie to a doctor about, why would I pick that?!</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/45550/n1-is-self-experimentation-the-future/45556#45556 baconbitch 2011-06-18T16:37:17Z 2011-06-18T16:37:17Z

<p>I absolutely think self-tracking is going to have an impact on the future of our healthcare. More technologies are coming into existence that make it easier for us to track our health and share it with others (thank the internet gods for open source!). However, I've been to the doctor for myself and my kids and I've been told that my tracking information has no value to them and they've immediately written prescriptions. The problem with many docs (as we all know) is that they're training is not so much based on getting to root causes but masking symptoms and getting through as many patients as possible. </p> <p>However, I'm starting to see more local providers come together in my community to set themselves apart from the HMO/PPO standards of bottom-line healthcare and they are more receptive to the tracking data. </p> <p>I think self-tracking empowers us in such a way that we can identify a root cause easier, attempt to heal it, and save ourselves trips to the doctor and in the end - save a lot of money on health care. </p> <p>I'll refer to the <a href="http://www.curetogether.com" rel="nofollow">CureTogether</a> site as I have in the past. (I have no affiliation with them - simply respect). The woman who runs this site is affiliated with the QS folks too. What I LOVE is how we can enter our health data and it is matched in a social web format. For instance, I am trying to self-treat depression and found that music therapy is one of the most reliable way to help depressed people. I would never have known that. It also makes it more reliable for me to try based on the culled n=1 tracking. </p> <p>I can't say I've tracked anything totally weird on myself but as a parent, I recall tracking my babies' poop. That was kinda icky but I don't know one new parent who doesn't track that type of info :) I track my sleep, mood, exercise, food. I'm beginning a new form of tracking about my learning capacity. I'm still developing it but I want to see the ways I learn best, how much I can learn in the shortest amount of time. </p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/45550/n1-is-self-experimentation-the-future/45561#45561 The Quilt 2011-06-18T17:16:50Z 2011-06-18T17:16:50Z

<p>It is the now and the future for me and my patients.</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/45550/n1-is-self-experimentation-the-future/45563#45563 Anne 2011-06-18T17:32:32Z 2011-06-18T17:32:32Z

<p>Yes, N=1 can influence health care providers especially if they see it happen often enough. </p> <p>Here is an example. All the top researchers in celiac disease now recognize non-celiac gluten sensitivity. One reason this happened is because so many patients they diagnosed free of CD returned to say they dropped gluten and health improved. Now there is research into non-celiac gluten sensitivity - an area totally ignored by mainstream medicine until recently. </p> <p>Another example - what about the N=1 experiment by Nobel Prize winner Barry Marshall. He infected himself with H.pylori to prove it could cause stomach ulcers. </p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/45550/n1-is-self-experimentation-the-future/45565#45565 OptimusPrimal 2011-06-18T17:49:08Z 2011-06-18T17:49:08Z

<p>Self experimentation has been my life since 2003. I guess its just not marijuana anymore...</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/45550/n1-is-self-experimentation-the-future/45569#45569 Xyz 2011-06-18T18:04:36Z 2011-06-18T18:04:36Z

<p>Look at the questions on the main page and ask yourself if the posters are capable of honest, rational, neutral observation when they're chasing gremlins like adrenal fatigue and popping colloidal silver.</p>

http://paleohacks.com/questions/45550/n1-is-self-experimentation-the-future/45578#45578 James 2011-06-18T18:45:32Z 2011-06-18T18:45:32Z

<p>My opinion. Self experimentation is only valid on the personal level. YOU are the arbiter of your own health, and you can make better decisions if something works for you (or not). </p> <p>However, you can't make that same assumption in general. N=1 with the general public has little use to the medical profession. Multiple N=1's that all say the same thing, yes. But a single person saying "Hey this works this way for me", not so useful.</p>