Are You Suffering From "Cyberchondria"? - PaleoHacks.com most recent 30 from http://paleohacks.com 2013-06-19T15:17:59Z http://paleohacks.com/feeds/question/72490 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://paleohacks.com/questions/72490/are-you-suffering-from-cyberchondria Are You Suffering From "Cyberchondria"? FED at LiveCaveman.com 2011-10-25T00:39:46Z 2011-10-25T14:51:47Z <p>I recently read an article about "<a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-x-1026-cyberchondria-20111026,0,6942136.story" rel="nofollow">Cyberchondria</a>" (internet-fueled self misdiagnosis of an illness or disease) and couldn't help but wonder about some of the declarations of "leaky gut", "leptin resistance", and "short telomeres" that I've seen here and on other sites.</p> <p>I absolutely understand that there are people out there with legitimate medical conditions, and many of them share on this and other sites, but I am referring to those who simply read a few articles, do a couple Google searches, and get the idea that their occasional upset stomach means they have IBS, their post-workout fatigue is "adrenal fatigue", etc.</p> <p>It is well known that we humans are predisposed to the "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias" rel="nofollow">confirmation bias</a>" (a tendency to favor information that confirms preconceptions or hypotheses regardless of whether the information is true) and the internet could be the ultimate enabler of this tendency. </p> <p>Full Disclosure: I just read Taleb's "The Black Swan", so I am in a particularly skeptical mood and may in fact be guilty of the confirmation bias myself in looking for reasons to confirm my new-found skepticism.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/72490/are-you-suffering-from-cyberchondria/72491#72491 Answer by Anonymous Chump for Are You Suffering From "Cyberchondria"? Anonymous Chump 2011-10-25T00:44:03Z 2011-10-25T00:44:03Z <p>I'm not, but this is a good topic and one we should all be mindful of. A few years ago, I had to admit that I convinced myself that I had a problem with my parathyroid and I was all keyed up to.... you guessed it..... my internet searching.</p> <p>Anyway, good topic.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/72490/are-you-suffering-from-cyberchondria/72493#72493 Answer by JayJay for Are You Suffering From "Cyberchondria"? JayJay 2011-10-25T01:11:48Z 2011-10-25T01:11:48Z <p>On the one hand you have a bit of a point. On the other hand I sincerely believe that you would be hard pressed to find ANYONE who has been eating a SAD diet for more than a couple decades without at least one of the aforementioned disorders to one degree or another. </p> <p>So yes there is such a thing as being "cybercondria", but in the context of things like "leaky gut", systemic inflammation, and so forth they are at EPIDEMIC levels. So just because your paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you!</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/72490/are-you-suffering-from-cyberchondria/72497#72497 Answer by Simibee for Are You Suffering From "Cyberchondria"? Simibee 2011-10-25T02:29:16Z 2011-10-25T03:19:19Z <p>Hmm, I guess it's a measure of my cyberchondria that my first thought upon reading the title was that modern technology was somehow responsible for mitochondrial dysfunction. </p> <p>I agree that the SAD is not conducive to health, hence the epidemic levels of IBS etc, but at the same time the overall standard western <strong>lifestyle</strong> is not conducive to meeting our needs in so many other spheres; emotional/social, spiritual, pace of life etc. In this context illness often seems to be the only time that we "have permission" to take care of ourselves.</p> <p>Depression, anxiety and similar problems can often manifest as fatigue, altered sleep/appetite or stomach upsets. These are generic symptoms that fit the most common diagnoses and could be easily misidentified, especially if we are out of touch with our emotional state. Also, although this has lessened, there is still social stigma to problems which aren't "just" physical. At the same time, this could even be a coping mechanism as it is far easier to start a supplement regimen than to confront big and scary life issues. </p> <p>Equally, modern medicine has a pretty poor record of taking nagging (apparently minor) chronic complaints seriously - is it really suprising if people want a better answer than 'take these pills for the rest of your life, they won't cure you, and the side effects may even be worse than the initial problem, but it's the best we have at the moment'? What sets apart eg a leptin reset is the promise of a cure, which (in some cases) happens to correlate to everything people generally want to improve in their lives, from weight lost to more energy and better focus. So people perhaps start to wish that they were leptin resistant, just because if they were to do a leptin reset all areas of their life would simultaneously improve. </p> <p>Finally, our perception of what "normal" energy levels are is probably quite distorted. Life all on its own can be stressful and tiring, but just because we're not acting as if we're in an energy drink commercial all day long doesn't mean that something is wrong with us. In other ways we live such comfortable lives and we are used to meeting (or even exceeding) our body's physical needs, so whilst in another era we health hacking types might have shrugged off chronic issues, nowadays they are like the proverbial turd in our 4 star, olympic size swimming pool, and we have the perfect time-sucking tool at our disposal (the internet) to fall down the rabbit hole of obsessively trying to fix it. </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/72490/are-you-suffering-from-cyberchondria/72509#72509 Answer by affine for Are You Suffering From "Cyberchondria"? affine 2011-10-25T03:25:54Z 2011-10-25T03:25:54Z <p>No. I actually have all the diseases, conditions, and symptoms I think I do.</p> <p>...and they are plentiful.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/72490/are-you-suffering-from-cyberchondria/72521#72521 Answer by coldhandinmine for Are You Suffering From "Cyberchondria"? coldhandinmine 2011-10-25T04:39:59Z 2011-10-25T04:39:59Z <p>I advocate skepticism as a healthy approach to any endeavor. It's a (probably unavoidable) tendency of our species to decide what we believe and then try to force incoming data into a preformed mold. I think that happens as much in the paleo community as in any other, and I imagine there's more WebMD-mining than is entirely necessary.</p> <p>I obviously suspect that the SAD is a godawful way to treat oneself or I wouldn't be here, but the body is such a fantastically complex and ill-understood system that I'm pretty sure the best we can do is hedge our percentages. I.e., we're probably getting a decent margin - maybe a really significant one - by eating well, getting regular exercise, and avoiding certain common SAD elements, but if one starts thinking of dietary factors as anything other than a way to fudge the percentages some indeterminate amount, then one flirts with illusions of control that don't bear out in the actual cosmos we inhabit.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/72490/are-you-suffering-from-cyberchondria/72527#72527 Answer by Happy Now for Are You Suffering From "Cyberchondria"? Happy Now 2011-10-25T05:45:49Z 2011-10-25T05:45:49Z <p>Call me cynical if you will, but this sounds like a term manufactured by doctors not interested in dealing with patients who are taking responsibility for their own health. I've gotten a pretty swift smack down when I've voiced particular health concerns, especially if I walk into the doctors office with a pretty good idea that I've been dealing with a malady, and can name it. Every...single...time...I've been right. I don't see why one needs a degree to work through a symptoms list, I can read as well as my doctor. </p> <p>As far as folks here over-worrying, sure, if you stick with paleo for a long time chances are a lot of health issues will be resolved, and you probably shouldn't worry much. However, a lot of us come here because we're in terrible shape inside and out have some serious work to do.</p> <p>The specific examples of "leaky gut" and "leptin resistance" are pretty ubiquitous, I think it would be the odd person who eats whatever is cheap and participates in our 24/7 society who doesn't suffer from either or both of those. </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/72490/are-you-suffering-from-cyberchondria/72576#72576 Answer by staceychev for Are You Suffering From "Cyberchondria"? staceychev 2011-10-25T14:51:47Z 2011-10-25T14:51:47Z <p>I think there's probably a valid point there, but only to a certain minor extent. That being said, an article decrying "cyberchondria" is really just the same lame excuse for health journalism as the "diet du jour" and frantic reports based on a study that was just published that had 7 study participants, or a media blitz over information from a meta-study that we've all heard before. Reporters have deadlines to meet and space to fill, especially in this cyber-24-hour-news-cycle world we live in, so they have to come up with something to write about. </p>