Is there a name for the argument "It worked for <me/family/friends/etc>, so it must be good"? - PaleoHacks.com most recent 30 from http://paleohacks.com 2013-05-19T09:25:55Z http://paleohacks.com/feeds/question/83259 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://paleohacks.com/questions/83259/is-there-a-name-for-the-argument-it-worked-for-me-family-friends-etc-so-it-mu Is there a name for the argument "It worked for <me/family/friends/etc>, so it must be good"? BaleoNub 2011-12-13T20:01:17Z 2011-12-13T23:49:56Z <p>Not that it's terribly important, but I was having a conversation about feeding my 6 month old son his first solid foods, and when I mentioned I was starting with egg yokes, they said "we started with rice cereal and my kids turned out just fine"</p> <p>I hear this line of reasoning all the time when it comes to any sort of suggested change. If some common behavior or practice was used by someone that "turned out okay", they then believe their "turning out okay" is evidence of that behavior's effectiveness.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/83259/is-there-a-name-for-the-argument-it-worked-for-me-family-friends-etc-so-it-mu/83270#83270 Answer by Nance for Is there a name for the argument "It worked for <me/family/friends/etc>, so it must be good"? Nance 2011-12-13T20:35:49Z 2011-12-13T20:35:49Z <p>The problem here is that you're looking for logic that will overrule people who aren't using logic in the first place. That probably won't work out too well for you.</p> <p>You could, I suppose, point out that 40 years ago you were supposed to start with cereal very early and now they say wait a while. Back then, you were supposed to put the baby on its stomach and now they say put him/her on their backs.</p> <p>So even conventional wisdom changes from year to year. You're doing what seems best based on what you now know.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/83259/is-there-a-name-for-the-argument-it-worked-for-me-family-friends-etc-so-it-mu/83271#83271 Answer by Sara S. for Is there a name for the argument "It worked for <me/family/friends/etc>, so it must be good"? Sara S. 2011-12-13T20:36:12Z 2011-12-13T20:52:55Z <p>I'd say it's an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy" rel="nofollow">association fallacy</a> They're saying "A did X" and "A felt great", therefore "doing X is associated with feeling great". </p> <p>For more possibilities, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies" rel="nofollow">wikipedia</a> has a nice list of fallacies.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/83259/is-there-a-name-for-the-argument-it-worked-for-me-family-friends-etc-so-it-mu/83274#83274 Answer by donoterase for Is there a name for the argument "It worked for <me/family/friends/etc>, so it must be good"? donoterase 2011-12-13T20:47:19Z 2011-12-13T20:47:19Z <p>That person is evidence of the effectiveness. Have you created this topic so that people will support your decision to do something different? Have you posted for the purpose of rallying Paleo support against convention?</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/83259/is-there-a-name-for-the-argument-it-worked-for-me-family-friends-etc-so-it-mu/83278#83278 Answer by jess6 for Is there a name for the argument "It worked for <me/family/friends/etc>, so it must be good"? jess6 2011-12-13T20:54:49Z 2011-12-13T20:54:49Z <p>Anecdotal evidence.</p> <p>Also, sometimes people will say "I did X and it worked just fine for me" when really it didn't - the person in question is actually 100lbs overweight, and suffering from multiple dietary-related health problems. But they aren't dead yet, so obviously it "worked just fine".</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/83259/is-there-a-name-for-the-argument-it-worked-for-me-family-friends-etc-so-it-mu/83279#83279 Answer by Arctic_Mama for Is there a name for the argument "It worked for <me/family/friends/etc>, so it must be good"? Arctic_Mama 2011-12-13T20:57:38Z 2011-12-13T20:57:38Z <p>I usually just ignore it, or gently begin on the research behind why I do what I do, and let them choose. I know that is how <em>I</em> changed my views on food - researched, sound nutritional information from a variety of people and sources. If it gets them thinking, you're doing a good job, even if they still insist xyz food is the best. </p> <p>I rarely go into things expecting to change minds, but a little dialog back and forth can be immensely helpful.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/83259/is-there-a-name-for-the-argument-it-worked-for-me-family-friends-etc-so-it-mu/83282#83282 Answer by Dorado Galore for Is there a name for the argument "It worked for <me/family/friends/etc>, so it must be good"? Dorado Galore 2011-12-13T21:22:19Z 2011-12-13T22:05:11Z <p>"Post hoc ergo propter hoc."</p> <p>Latin for "after this, therefore because of this." This familiar logical fallacy states, "Event XYZ followed event ABC, therefore, event ABC caused event XYZ."</p> <p>Similar to the fallacy of association or correlation. The mere association of two events (key word "mere") reveals no causal relationship. Though a causal relationship may in fact exist in the association/correlation. Or in the first example, the preceding event may actually be the cause of the succeeding event. </p> <p>In the two cases, eating egg yolks and eating rice cereal simply preceded "turns out fine." </p> <p>I had salmon for lunch yesterday. Things turned out OK today.</p> <p>Phew. Close call. I think I'll live dangerously. Tomorrow, tuna. </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/83259/is-there-a-name-for-the-argument-it-worked-for-me-family-friends-etc-so-it-mu/83288#83288 Answer by Rogue Nutritionist for Is there a name for the argument "It worked for <me/family/friends/etc>, so it must be good"? Rogue Nutritionist 2011-12-13T21:33:00Z 2011-12-13T21:33:00Z <p>When relatives have said this kind of thing to me, I've realized that they feel that by my making different choices than they did, that I am <em>attacking</em> them, saying that what they did was wrong, or not good enough, and so I would call this a <strong>"**defense mechanism</strong>".</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/83259/is-there-a-name-for-the-argument-it-worked-for-me-family-friends-etc-so-it-mu/83289#83289 Answer by raydawg for Is there a name for the argument "It worked for <me/family/friends/etc>, so it must be good"? raydawg 2011-12-13T21:33:33Z 2011-12-13T21:33:33Z <p>I'd call that an n=1 experiment. :)</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/83259/is-there-a-name-for-the-argument-it-worked-for-me-family-friends-etc-so-it-mu/83310#83310 Answer by Ambimorph for Is there a name for the argument "It worked for <me/family/friends/etc>, so it must be good"? Ambimorph 2011-12-13T23:49:56Z 2011-12-13T23:49:56Z <p>I agree with Jess: it's an anecdote. </p> <p>Not that you were asking for a response, but the only one I can think of to such a funny assertion is "Imagine how well they would have turned out if you hadn't!"</p> <p>But I also agree with Rogue that it's a defense mechanism, and therefore a strong indicator to change tactics if you want to be heard.</p>