Should we eat dates? - PaleoHacks.com most recent 30 from http://paleohacks.com 2013-05-23T16:55:41Z http://paleohacks.com/feeds/question/98039 http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdf http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates Should we eat dates? balor123 2012-02-16T06:22:20Z 2012-10-10T12:19:05Z <p>Dates are a natural food and one which apparently many mammals, some of which are probably our ancestors, fiercely contest for in African jungles and rain forests. However, it's also got an embarrassingly high glycemic index and load. Is there any saving grace to this fruit? Perhaps it's got some special nutrients found nowhere else. I'm guessing that most primates have larger metabolic organs (liver and pancreas) organs than we do to deal with all the fruit they eat so dates wouldn't be as harmful to them.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/98042#98042 Answer by Jasmine for Should we eat dates? Jasmine 2012-02-16T06:48:59Z 2012-02-16T06:48:59Z <p>Good question! Search for "dates" and view the past discussions, good answers! </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/98061#98061 Answer by Milla for Should we eat dates? Milla 2012-02-16T12:35:41Z 2012-02-16T12:35:41Z <p>I would place dates in the same category as other unprocessed but high-sugar foods, and treat its intake the same way as you would raw honey, maple syrup, etc. Because it is a whole food, it has a nutrient content, and probably fits in to evolutionary eating, especially as they are a sort of staple in traditional middle eastern cooking. </p> <p>So if you're looking for a sweetener and don't want to use something like stevia, dates are a good option; they are especially good in dense baking (e.g. loaves, things like banana bread, fruit/nut bars) as they are sticky, add moistness and a caramel-like flavour. They are also very portable and practical, so quite convenient to take on a hike or camping trip. </p> <p>Nutrition wise, dates have commendable amounts of minerals such as potassium and vitamins (though vitamin C is only present in notable quantities in fresh dates since heat significantly depletes it) and antioxidants. So it isn't an empty calorie sweetener by any means. It is also easier to find pure, unadulterated dates than truly unprocessed honey or maple sap with a good nutritional and antioxidant profile, so its definitely a good source of sweetness, though I don't think dates would perform well sweetening something more liquid like custard. </p> <p>It's true that dates are very high in fructose, which is problematic, hard to digest for some folks and is most often stored as fat. However, dates are a whole food, not just sugar alone: food processing tends to have a knack for isolating components of foods, which leads to a consumption of that component that is way higher than what you could have ingested if you had eaten the whole food (HFCS, nut/seed oils all fall into this category). Early man would not have had access to such an amount of dates and other high-sugar plant material to consume enough fructose to affect the metabolism.</p> <p>Studies on honey show that higher-antioxidant honey (e.g. acacia vs rapeseed honey) causes less of an elevation of serum fructose levels(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20823899); so I suppose that the same would hold for consuming dates, which also have bioactive compounds that could well counter any potential damage. </p> <p>However, once again, we did not evolve consuming a lot of such high-sugar foods; dates should be treated like any other high-sugar food and eaten in moderation. You should most certainly not rely on dates for nutrition: you would have to eat 100 grams of dates to just under 20% of the RDA for minerals like potassium, and under 10% of RDA for select vitamins, for a price of around 70 grams of carbs, most of them in fructose. So dates should be limited to post-workout, the occasional treat and perhaps on a hike where you're very active. </p> <p>If you have weight to loose, or are just starting out on paleo and not yet fat-adapted, or if you have metabolic disorders, furthermore, I'd avoid dates altogether before you're ready to add more carbs to your diet. Needless to say that if you have fructose malabsorption you should avoid them altogether. </p> <p>And remember that date syrup is not the same as dates - it does not contain the same nutrient profile and is essentially the same as something like HFCS - an isolated sugar! </p> <p>So the bottom line is, dates are, per se, a whole food and can be classed as 'paleo', but should always be put in context of your lifestyle and carb tolerance. </p> <p>Hope I helped, </p> <p>Lots of paleo love :-) </p> <p>Milla </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/98073#98073 Answer by primallykosher for Should we eat dates? primallykosher 2012-02-16T14:00:28Z 2012-02-16T14:00:28Z <p>I think that would stop you from going on future dates though with that person. Most people don't like being eaten alive. </p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/98084#98084 Answer by gydle for Should we eat dates? gydle 2012-02-16T14:40:29Z 2012-02-16T14:40:29Z <p>Not unless you're a female spider.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/98147#98147 Answer by Becca for Should we eat dates? Becca 2012-02-16T18:20:01Z 2012-02-16T18:20:01Z <p>I will eat one after strength training along with a protein shake. That's probably the best time to consume, because it won't cause insulin spikes and will be utilized right away by your body.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/98157#98157 Answer by curly16 for Should we eat dates? curly16 2012-02-16T18:43:50Z 2012-02-16T18:43:50Z <p>Bacon wrapped dates=amazing . But eat sparingly!</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/154628#154628 Answer by S. for Should we eat dates? S. 2012-10-10T00:40:44Z 2012-10-10T00:40:44Z <p>I mixed dates and walnuts in a blender, rolled it into tiny balls then dipped them in dark chocolate. Really decadent.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/154630#154630 Answer by joanna for Should we eat dates? joanna 2012-10-10T00:54:07Z 2012-10-10T00:54:07Z <p>i eat a lot of dates. they are my favorite fruit! i go through phases where i don't want them for months- 8 months this year- and then when i went paleo, i craved dates again. weird.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/154680#154680 Answer by andrew for Should we eat dates? andrew 2012-10-10T07:13:40Z 2012-10-10T07:13:40Z <p>I love dates. Here is what FitDay says 5 dates contain as nutrients - I'd say a good little supplement!</p> <p><a href="http://www.fitday.com/fitness/FoodLog.html?_v_View_FoodLogSummaryTabs-Focus=Nutri" rel="nofollow">http://www.fitday.com/fitness/FoodLog.html?_v_View_FoodLogSummaryTabs-Focus=Nutri</a></p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/154685#154685 Answer by Michelle for Should we eat dates? Michelle 2012-10-10T08:01:00Z 2012-10-10T08:33:25Z <p>I just ate some dates along with macadamia nuts about an hour ago.</p> <p>They're an occasional treat for me. I rarely eat more than two or three in a sitting, and very, very rarely without the accompaniment of nuts. For me, eating any fruit without some hefty protein and/or fat results in some blood sugar shenanigans. </p> <p>One of my favorite snacks involves tossing some nuts in a food processor with some cocoa powder, pulverizing, then adding in and pulsing just enough dates to get everything to stick together when I crimp it with my hands. It's like a chocolate Larabar, but more nuts and fewer dates.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/154693#154693 Answer by borofergie for Should we eat dates? borofergie 2012-10-10T09:21:41Z 2012-10-10T09:21:41Z <p>As you say in the question "our ancestors, fiercely contest for in African jungles and rain forests".</p> <p>The fact that there is a competition for them, kinda suggests that they weren't lots to go around, which kind of lines up with the whole "eat them occaisionally as a treat" thing.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/154705#154705 Answer by raydawg for Should we eat dates? raydawg 2012-10-10T11:11:03Z 2012-10-10T11:11:03Z <p>No worse than eating a good quality honey. In small amounts, I wouldn't worry about it unless you're diabetic. If you're worried about the insulin spike, eat them about an hour or so after a demanding workout as carb backloading, or as a glucose refeed. </p> <p>Just don't buy a large bag of them at Costco at eat them all day long.</p> http://paleohacks.com/questions/98039/should-we-eat-dates/154717#154717 Answer by Monte for Should we eat dates? Monte 2012-10-10T12:19:05Z 2012-10-10T12:19:05Z <p>When I first read the title I was thinking this question was about something totally different.....</p> <p><img src="http://cdn.thegloss.com/files/2011/10/hannibal.jpg" alt="alt text"></p>