User miked - PaleoHacks.commost recent 30 from http://paleohacks.com2013-05-24T08:22:52Zhttp://paleohacks.com/feeds/user/375http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://paleohacks.com/questions/22586/anyone-have-a-good-paleo-energy-bar-recipeAnyone have a good Paleo energy bar recipe? MikeD2011-02-10T17:57:47Z2013-05-16T19:36:19Z
<p>Inspired by an old post about whether people should eat Kind Bars (the answers is no, not really) I thought perhaps some people here have some hacks for Paleo-style energy bars for snacks and on the go meals. I am generally a meat and potatoes paleo with a jerky/nut/coffee type of on-the-run style, but perhaps there are some fun 'bar' recipes out there? </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/14954/telomerase-fountain-of-youth-or-cancer-agentTelomerase - Fountain of Youth or Cancer agent? MikeD2010-11-29T18:01:10Z2011-11-20T23:21:15Z
<p>A new study came out in Nature about backwards-aging mice who had had their telomerase enzymes artificially lowered and then restored. Apparently, elevated levels of the stuff can make cells young again, reversing damage from hepatitis and alcoholism. Some say it could be the fountain of youth. </p>
<p>Teleomeres are the bits of DNA that protect cells, and telomerase is the enzyme associated with them. People with longer telomeres tend to live longer, healthier lives, whereas those with shorter telomeres suffer more from age-related diseases, such as diabetes, Alzheimer's, and heart disease.</p>
<p>It has also been implicated in both encouraging cancer and curing it... </p>
<p>Where does the Paleo community fall on this one? Also, if we want to increase this 'fountain-of-youth-enzyme' are there ways to get more of it from our diet? </p>
<p><a href="http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/11/the-curious-case-of-the-backward.html?ref=hp" rel="nofollow">http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/11/the-curious-case-of-the-backward.html?ref=hp</a></p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/6912/whats-your-vitamin-d-blood-levelWhat's your Vitamin D blood level?MikeD2010-07-06T14:57:33Z2011-06-24T00:13:53Z
<p>I just had my Vitamin D blood level checked. I took about 10K of Vitamin D3 supplements during the Spring and Winter and sometimes now when I don't get enough midday sun. I try to get sun exposure for about 30 min to an hour a day at least, more on weekends during the mid day sun. I have a pretty serious farmers tan and then a less impressive torso tan. I don't do sunscreen. My Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy blood level was 69.1 ng/mL. From what I understand that's pretty optimal. I am interested in how the rest of the paleosphere stacks up? </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/16262/what-do-you-think-of-polar-bear-swims-winter-runs-ice-baths-for-weight-lossWhat do you think of Polar bear swims, winter runs, ice baths for weight-loss?MikeD2010-12-16T15:32:23Z2011-06-13T23:23:26Z
<p>Tim Ferris' new book has an interesting chapter called Ice Age about using the cold for weight-loss and it comes at just the right time (at least here in these northern parts) for some experimenting. </p>
<p>His basic premise is that the body burns up energy in more ways than just exercise and one of those ways is through loss of heat. They were trying to figure out how Michael Phelps could eat so much and still burn it even though his exercise output--which is a lot--still didn't amount to what he was eating. One thing they found was that when a body is in contact with cold water we transfer heat from our body to the water. Then our body burns more calories to keep its body temp up. He claims that research has shown people can burn 4 times the amount of fat after two hours of cold exposure. He says cold stimulates certain fat cells to burn fat in the body. Interesting ideas.</p>
<p>I know a bunch of people here take part in Polar Bear Swims and things--probably more for fun than anything--but is anyone thinking of applying some of the cold=weight loss ideas this winter? </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/40484/hack-my-plateau/40520#40520Answer by MikeD for Hack my plateau!MikeD2011-05-26T17:21:04Z2011-05-26T17:21:04Z<p>There is a thermogenic effect of eating protein and fat rich foods. You may want to experiment with eating more rather than less. You may find you lose more weight when you are eating and making your body work rather than skipping lunch or IFing. </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/40088/what-does-kerrygold-say-about-itself/40095#40095Answer by MikeD for WHAT DOES KERRYGOLD SAY ABOUT ITSELF?MikeD2011-05-24T21:03:04Z2011-05-24T21:03:04Z<p>I am not sure you can actually certify something fed grass as organic anyway. Organic usually means organic grain feed. </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/10693/whats-your-favorite-bacon-hackWhat's your favorite bacon hack?MikeD2010-09-21T00:53:37Z2011-05-09T12:00:40Z
<p>I just cooked up some rainbow swiss chard by taking a slice of bacon and frying it in the pot first and then throwing the shredded chard in after it letting the steam and heat from the bacon grease coat and wilt the greens. Veggies are made better with fat and if you are living without butter, bacon grease is one go to. </p>
<p>What are some of your favorite ways/recipes to use bacon? </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/36312/please-help-me-hack-my-day-and-where-it-went-wrong/36316#36316Answer by MikeD for Please help me hack my day and where it went "wrong"MikeD2011-05-02T16:12:25Z2011-05-02T16:12:25Z<p>From a paleo perspective you went wrong when you ate sushi. Did you eat your sushi with soy sauce? Soy sauce has gluten in it. </p>
<p>You may have also just eaten too much before bed. Looks like a big meal to me. </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/35159/do-you-brush-your-teeth-with-bacon/36110#36110Answer by MikeD for Do you brush your teeth with Bacon? MikeD2011-05-01T05:06:54Z2011-05-01T05:06:54Z<p>5 up votes for this question? my answer is - no i dont.</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/36078/all-bacon-at-whole-foods-has-evaporated-cane-juice-wtf/36109#36109Answer by MikeD for All bacon at whole foods has evaporated cane juice. WTF?MikeD2011-05-01T05:03:55Z2011-05-01T05:03:55Z<p>whole foods black forest rubbed bacon is delicious, i will not complain. </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/31426/meta-do-we-want-to-steal-any-of-the-good-question-guidelines-from-stackexch/31459#31459Answer by MikeD for (Meta) Do we want to _steal_ any of the 'good question' guidelines from stackexchange.com to improve our own site?MikeD2011-04-04T15:08:04Z2011-04-04T15:08:04Z<p>Stack Exchange is really geared towards software programmers with problems to fix rather than being a community site. The real question I think is creeping up is "What is the purpose of PaleoHacks?" and from there we should define what questions should be asked. I think a lot of the major paleo questions have already been asked, so I would wonder if we are outgrowing the 'question/answer' model of this site and instead need a better way to organize all the information collected while also embracing the idea that people are on here to 'engage in discussions about' which would be outlawed by one of the above guidelines. Just my two cents.</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/29342/any-opinion-about-gluten-free-low-carb-bread/29353#29353Answer by MikeD for Any opinion about gluten free/low carb bread? MikeD2011-03-24T21:01:00Z2011-03-24T21:01:00Z<p>The basic answer is that this isn't really a paleo food. You could try Mark's Daily Apple for some psuedo-paleo grain replacing treats... <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/low-carb-substitute/" rel="nofollow">http://www.marksdailyapple.com/low-carb-substitute/</a></p>
<p>I wouldn't eat this stuff everyday or base my diet around it. Ending the toast habit would be my advice/opinion. </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/27819/how-can-i-prevent-diarrhea/27826#27826Answer by MikeD for How can I prevent diarrhea?MikeD2011-03-16T14:29:13Z2011-03-16T14:29:13Z<p>From what I understand its from bacteria that you generally don't get in large amounts in the developed world. I would say upping your probiotic intake might help you adjust as well as prepare your body ahead of time. </p>
<p>That said, if you've been paleo for a while and you are about to go on a four week somosa and lentil binge, yes you will get the trots probably for different reasons than your classmates since you've been enjoying a form of paleo peace in your stomach that gets angry when you introduce gluten and other things. Rice (not paleo) at least is easier on the digestion so you might be able to sneak by on that and some meat and not come off as a total jerk to the locals. I've never been to India so I don't really no what its like there or what the food availability really is to travelers...</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/27685/are-we-too-clean-wanna-get-dirty/27695#27695Answer by MikeD for Are we too clean? Wanna get DIRTY? MikeD2011-03-15T18:22:39Z2011-03-15T18:22:39Z<p>The most recent issue of Nature discussed a study of kids raised on farms vs. the suburbs and their lower rates of asthma due to their exposure to MORE dirt, dust and microbes. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v471/n7336/full/471009b.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v471/n7336/full/471009b.html</a></p>
<blockquote>
<p>Previous work showed that children
raised on farms are protected from
childhood asthma and a class of
allergic reactions called 'atopy'.
Now, Markus Ege of the University
Children's Hospital Munich in Germany
and his colleagues have analysed the
microbial populations in dust
collected from 933 children's rooms.
They found that bacteria and fungi
were more numerous and widespread in
samples collected for children who
live on farms. They also found that
the risk of asthma and atopy decreased
as the number of microbial taxa
increased. In particular, fungi from
two genera, Eurotium and Penicillium,
were tightly associated with reduced
asthma risk.</p>
</blockquote>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/27651/5-minute-breakfast-suggestions/27656#27656Answer by MikeD for 5-minute Breakfast Suggestions?MikeD2011-03-15T16:13:38Z2011-03-15T16:13:38Z<p>Eating leftovers from dinner last night is my go to. </p>
<p>Cooking bacon and eggs the night before and just reheating works pretty well. </p>
<p>I also have Jones frozen sausages which just contain pork, water, salt, spices and sugar (so little it doesn't show up as any carbs). They probably aren't better than the stuff you might get at the farmer's market but it's one of the few brands bragging they are gluten-free. They take under 5 minutes to microwave and eat. </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/26910/what-are-some-ethical-arguments-for-paleoWhat are some ethical arguments for paleo? MikeD2011-03-10T19:55:20Z2011-03-12T16:44:55Z
<p>There are people who want to argue our diet on ethical grounds rather than just health grounds. How do we respond?</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/26941/whats-on-your-bathroom-counter/26969#26969Answer by MikeD for What's on your bathroom counter?MikeD2011-03-10T22:37:46Z2011-03-10T22:37:46Z<p>Ecodent powdered tooth paste and Men's Stock spray deodorant are two things people here might be interested in.</p>
<p><img src="http://paleodc.com/onmycounter.jpg" alt="alt text"></p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/26889/what-are-everyones-thoughts-on-frugavoresfruit-vegan/26895#26895Answer by MikeD for What are everyone's thoughts on Frugavores(fruit-vegan)?MikeD2011-03-10T19:18:16Z2011-03-10T19:52:02Z<p>I think all-fruit diets are masking some sort of starvation diet or something. Just doesn't seem like a person can be healthy long term on that diet without intravenous vitamin supplements. I am guessing when they get older their bones are gonna be brittle and their muscles wasted no matter what they might be like today. Also I wonder what % of their day is spent on the toilet eating all those bananas. </p>
<p>Edit - I just want to add another thought I just had. One reason people probably feel great initially on the all-fruit diet is that they completely drop gluten, legumes, O6 oils, dairy products. Just giving up grains probably does amazing things for people without them realizing, but its no way as good as eating a natural paleo-style diet that has all the vitamins and nutrients the human body needs.</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/26848/atkins-and-low-carb-paleo/26891#26891Answer by MikeD for Atkins and (low carb) PaleoMikeD2011-03-10T19:14:35Z2011-03-10T19:14:35Z<p>One thing that seems missing here is that Atkins is fine with grains as long as you are on maintenance levels or are eating 'low carb' breads and things. There was a discussion of low carb tortillas earlier and I think this is a major place Atkins and Paleo part ways. Paleo is anti-grains in all amounts and at all carb levels. That said you could probably be Paleo on the Atkins diet but not all people on Atkins would be considered Paleo. </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/26481/horrible-things-you-ate-drank-pre-paleo-even-growing-up/26592#26592Answer by MikeD for HORRIBLE things you ate/drank Pre-Paleo? ... even growing up.MikeD2011-03-09T04:12:36Z2011-03-09T04:12:36Z<p>Living in DC we have something called Jumbo Slice. We also have kickball leagues that focus mostly on Miller Lite consumption. Prior to Paleo I participated in both these phenomenon. </p>
<p>At one time after a particularly successful binge on Miller Lite I became know as Double Slice Dolan. That was about 50 lbs ago.</p>
<p>I could go on...</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/26586/paleoish-french-fries-pics-included/26589#26589Answer by MikeD for Paleo(ish) French Fries? **Pics included**MikeD2011-03-09T04:04:53Z2011-03-09T04:04:53Z<p>I support your quest. I would suggest frying in grass fed tallow and use sweet potatoes for the ultimate paleo fry next. </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/26541/anyone-else-ditching-the-fish-oils/26547#26547Answer by MikeD for Anyone else ditching the fish oils?MikeD2011-03-08T21:21:25Z2011-03-08T21:21:25Z<p>My experiences with straight up tablespoon a day of Nordic Naturals Fish Oil has been softer skin. </p>
<p>Cod Liver Oil might be the culprit. Vitamin A in large doses can lead to itchy dry skin. It is the same effect as taking Accutane, a retinoid drug which dries out people's skin to fight acne (I took it as a teen--if only I knew about Paleo then). If you are taking multivitamins or eating liver or veggie vitamin A sources you might be getting too much. </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/24544/identifying-and-fixing-personal-odors-after-no-poo-no-soap-no-deodorant/25492#25492Answer by MikeD for Identifying and fixing personal odors after no-poo no-soap no-deodorant MikeD2011-03-01T16:58:53Z2011-03-01T16:58:53Z<p>I use Aubrey Organics Men's Stock. They have a few other styles like a Calendula based one that smells less 'manly'. It's basically alcohol and some herbs sprayed on. It seems to work all day and even during gym work outs. Has worked way better than Tom's for me and seems to be even more natural.</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/25398/low-carb-tortillas-etc/25405#25405Answer by MikeD for Low-carb tortillas, etc.MikeD2011-03-01T02:29:00Z2011-03-01T02:29:00Z<p>This food does not have a place in a Paleo diet. If you want to stick with South Beach or some other low-carb diet that is fine, but you cannot reap the benefits of a Paleo diet by continuing to eat this food. In fact this food contains some of the biggest baddest foods on the 'don't eat' list for paleo--extra gluten added to the food is really problematic as most people gain benefit from not eating gluten after a few weeks. I listed some links below to help you understand why these ingredients are so bad.</p>
<p>The main ingredients are: </p>
<p>water - paleo</p>
<p>oat fiber - not paleo</p>
<p>whole wheat flour - not paleo <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/</a></p>
<p>soy flour - not paleo <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/soy-scrutiny/" rel="nofollow">http://www.marksdailyapple.com/soy-scrutiny/</a></p>
<p>vital wheat gluten - NOT PALEO <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/gluten-celiac-disease/" rel="nofollow">http://www.marksdailyapple.com/gluten-celiac-disease/</a></p>
<p>expeller pressed canola oil - not really paleo <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/dear-mark-canola-oil/" rel="nofollow">http://www.marksdailyapple.com/dear-mark-canola-oil/</a> </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/10151/paleo-poll-what-is-your-favorite-way-to-get-exercisePaleo Poll: What is your favorite way to get exercise?MikeD2010-09-13T17:12:40Z2011-02-23T02:58:30Z
<p>Ever since Mark in The Primal Blueprint told me I should work out less and take long walks more, I've been hitting the gym twice a week max to lift heavy things. I usually do squats, overhead press, bench, deadlifts, lunges, step ups, pullups, reverse pullups (to increase my pullup count) and situps.</p>
<p>I also enjoy good hikes and the occasional run. I wish I would swim more, but there is a perceived hassle to getting in a bathing suit and preventing myself from drowning. I was thinking of joining a Crossfit gym but who knows. I was wondering what are some of the favorite ways people stay active here on the site? </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/22827/open-meals-what-some-of-you-call-cheat-meals/23177#23177Answer by MikeD for Open Meals (what some of you call cheat meals)MikeD2011-02-15T02:17:10Z2011-02-15T02:17:10Z<p>I think if you are gonna cheat, you should probably still keep it gluten free. I just think that has far reaching effects that need more time than a week to detox from.</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/22844/ranking-of-paleo-meats-in-an-evolutionary-sense/22908#22908Answer by MikeD for ranking of Paleo meats in an evolutionary sense?MikeD2011-02-13T02:56:48Z2011-02-13T02:56:48Z<p>I am guessing we'd start with game animals, then grass fed ruminants, then fish and shellfish, then hogs (would wild ones be considers grass fed or game?), then birds. You could put bugs in there somewhere too. </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/22725/tonights-call-is-mark-sisson-and-frederic-patenaude/22907#22907Answer by MikeD for Tonight's call is Mark Sisson and Frederic Patenaude!MikeD2011-02-13T02:48:19Z2011-02-13T02:48:19Z<p>This is great and all, but it is not really a Paleohacks question/post...</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/22553/do-you-have-the-fat-gene-blues/22584#22584Answer by MikeD for Do you have the fat gene blues?MikeD2011-02-10T17:53:01Z2011-02-10T17:53:01Z<p>I too have a bunch of fat genes and I've been 'overweight' for most of my adult life but never really obese. I'd blame beer, pizza and candy bar addiction for that though and genetics for making it so hard to get into shape. I think unless you have the "skinny" genes that let you digest sugars and carbs super efficiently, it is just the <strong>human genome</strong> that predisposes you to getting fat from sugars and grains. </p>
<p>That said, I agree with Luckybastard that it takes time to get the body adjusted after years of abuse. There is also the whole thing about fat cells making us hungry because they steal and store food energy. If you already have fat, you are more predisposed to gaining rather than losing it so it's a tough psychological battle. Luckily, the very nature of the paleo diet can turn off hunger pangs completely if done right and that added with fat burning soon the fat cells wont be able to send out messages to make you hungry and crave sugars. But it takes time to convert.</p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/22464/add-paleo-and-change-in-personality/22474#22474Answer by MikeD for ADD, Paleo and change in personality MikeD2011-02-09T17:15:56Z2011-02-09T17:15:56Z<p>Ok so I commented above that I have not seen much change for myself but I think there are some things that probably aid in ADHD relief including a low sugar diet and a solid exercise regimen which seems to improve focus. </p>
<p>One interesting aspect of Paleo vs. ADHD is that since ADHD is caused by poor Dopamine transmission, I wonder if dietary changes that result in a net increase of Dopamine means that one might theoretically have more dopamine being thrown at the receptors and thus maybe counter acting the disability in the brain? I don't know if that really would have an effect since the issue is with the receptors. Some studies have shown that increasing dopamine activity raises dopamine receptors while others down-regulated receptors--<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_receptor" rel="nofollow">all drug studies...</a> </p>
<p><strong>Paleo dieters coming from SAD diets or Veggie diets are probably getting more essential amino acids from meat including tyrosine and phenylalanine both precursors to dopamine production.</strong> Connection? Again, I fear for children being raised vegan. </p>
http://paleohacks.com/questions/46631/training-for-5k-obstacle-races-should-i-even-bother-jogging/46632#46632Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-06-23T00:29:01Z2011-06-23T00:29:01Zagreed, 5K is short, i think you could train for it sprinting, especially if its really for these obstacle courses, i imagine people are not actually jogging through the mud crawl, but they could sprint from that to the beer chugging station or whatever. http://paleohacks.com/questions/1792/protein-powder-recommendations/12107#12107Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-06-23T00:21:25Z2011-06-23T00:21:25Zcuriosly he is also hawking his overpriced competing shake. but then, if we really want to avoid bad things we probably should just eat eggs and not drink shakes.http://paleohacks.com/questions/40088/what-does-kerrygold-say-about-itself/40095#40095Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-06-14T00:41:26Z2011-06-14T00:41:26Zas long as the organic cardboard was printed on with naturally derived soy ink its probably good feedstockhttp://paleohacks.com/questions/40484/hack-my-plateau/40520#40520Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-05-28T18:31:27Z2011-05-28T18:31:27Zi was offering hack advice not doctor advice. i don't think it is ludicrious to suggest a person who has hit a plateau after skipping meals all day to try eating. something like 10% of your metabolism is digestion and if you don't eat you are doing much digestion. http://paleohacks.com/questions/36454/is-mcdonalds-paleo/36459#36459Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-05-03T02:10:13Z2011-05-03T02:10:13Zlets not forget ground beef is pretty darn cheap. even the grass fed stuff isnt too $$http://paleohacks.com/questions/33642/whats-left-to-eatComment by MikeDMikeD2011-04-17T21:15:56Z2011-04-17T21:15:56Zis your sausage gluten free? you might want to avoid it or at least find a brand that says gluten free on it. nuts and coconut milk can also make stomachs feel poorly. also if you are seasoning your meat with stuff, check that stuff for gluten.http://paleohacks.com/questions/32184/what-is-the-ecofriendliest-and-also-healthiest-recycle-or-trash-bones/32249#32249Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-04-10T00:12:22Z2011-04-10T00:12:22Zthis is what i was thinking. http://paleohacks.com/questions/29342/any-opinion-about-gluten-free-low-carb-bread/29353#29353Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-03-27T20:52:02Z2011-03-27T20:52:02Zi never said mark was consistent, haha, just posted the link because it has a bunch of primal friendly food ideas that i think the asker is sorta searching for.http://paleohacks.com/questions/28946/let-the-comments-roll-vegetarian-passenger/28948#28948Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-03-22T21:56:42Z2011-03-22T21:56:42Zsorry, i meant to add that i can understand why they dropped peanuts, but now they are giving even worse food to peoplehttp://paleohacks.com/questions/28946/let-the-comments-roll-vegetarian-passenger/28948#28948Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-03-22T21:55:27Z2011-03-22T21:55:27Zdo airlines offer gluten free meals? i wonder what it looks like. its too bad they have replaced peanuts (not really paleo either) with pretzels... perhaps they could just give everyone carrot sticks from now on?http://paleohacks.com/questions/28369/hack-options-for-adhd/28383#28383Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-03-19T16:27:38Z2011-03-19T16:27:38Zthere is actually a way to diagnose ADHD through MRI brainscans but the method is too expensive at the moment. while over diagnosed it is real. <a href="http://www.drstevenberk.com/Cartoons/ADDPetscan.jpg" rel="nofollow">drstevenberk.com/Cartoons/ADDPetscan.jpg</a>http://paleohacks.com/questions/27175/anyone-here-from-the-washington-dc-area/27208#27208Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-03-12T17:33:38Z2011-03-12T17:33:38ZPaleo DC Meat UP represent! I can't make the brunch tomorrow but I am looking forward to all the summer activities we all talked about.http://paleohacks.com/questions/26910/what-are-some-ethical-arguments-for-paleo/26914#26914Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-03-11T16:28:45Z2011-03-11T16:28:45Zlame, not sure why they would. perhaps they were veganhttp://paleohacks.com/questions/26889/what-are-everyones-thoughts-on-frugavoresfruit-vegan/26911#26911Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-03-10T22:47:35Z2011-03-10T22:47:35Zalso, testosterone in women helps their libido so I'd say a low fat diet is probably bad for them too. http://paleohacks.com/questions/26910/what-are-some-ethical-arguments-for-paleo/26940#26940Comment by MikeDMikeD2011-03-10T22:30:28Z2011-03-10T22:30:28Zperhaps we should form a paleo youth brigade to save the children from the vegan menace.