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Almond Meal & Flax Seed Meal

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Created November 15, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Two fold question.

1) Is Flax Seed Meal a Paleo approved food

and....

2) Is Flax See Meal and Almond Meal the same thing

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43 · September 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM

I have to admit, I didn't know that... I guess I was thinking it was short-ER... either way thank you for sharing :).

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19120 · September 16, 2013 at 5:18 PM

ALA is *not* a short chain fatty acid. It is 18:3, EPA is 20:5, and DHA is 22:6. (That's "length in carbons : # carbon double bonds"). A short chain fatty acid is something much shorter - usually no longer than 6 carbons. Irrespective of that, it's true: ALA doesn't convert readily to DHA or EPA.

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43 · September 16, 2013 at 12:44 PM

couldn't have said it better myself. ;D, someone told me that you have to ingest the meal within 5 minutes of you grinding it yourself or else it starts to oxidize very quickly after that time. Might've been dave asprey?

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4458 · September 16, 2013 at 4:54 AM

in this particular situation rosabosa, ALA stands for Alpha Linolenic Acid, a 'higher level' omega 3 fatty acid, also deemed to be one of the Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's)

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602 · August 06, 2013 at 6:51 PM

This is not a good thing. It refers to the bioavailability of the omega 3 fatty acids. Basically, the omega 3 in fish is much more easily used by the human body than the omega 3 from things like flax. Vegans eat flax as a (poor) source of omega 3, but there is no reason that someone eating grass fed beef and wild fish needs to consume potentially rancid and inflammatory flax seeds. Flax isn't inherently toxic like wheat or soy oil, but it is hardly good for you or necessary. If you need a "meal" for something I would use almond over flax, but try to avoid both.

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70 · November 16, 2012 at 4:53 AM

Chickens will convert some of the ALA (from flax and other sources) to DHA and EPA in their bodies and in the egg yolks.

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70 · November 16, 2012 at 4:52 AM

Flax is the same as linseed and the natural polyunsaturated oil's drying properties are the basis for oil paints. Accelerators are added when the linseed oil is "boiled" to make it oxidize and polymerize more quickly when it is exposed to air on the surface to be painted.

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4458 · November 16, 2012 at 3:31 AM

yep, flax seed meal goes rancid quickly. if it has not been stored in the fridge in the shop, it has likely gone off already. if you want to use flax seed meal, better to buy the seeds & grind them up as needed.

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454 · November 16, 2012 at 12:58 AM

to explain further- flax seed meal is made up of ground up flax seeds. almond meal is made up of ground up almonds.

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10653 · November 16, 2012 at 12:28 AM

1) Yes

2) No

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454 · November 16, 2012 at 12:58 AM

to explain further- flax seed meal is made up of ground up flax seeds. almond meal is made up of ground up almonds.

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5201 · November 16, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Flax seed meal may be paleo approved but 1. it is high in ALA which is not readily converted to DHA and 2. flax seed meal can go rancid quickly. I would stick with almond meal over flax meal.

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4458 · November 16, 2012 at 3:31 AM

yep, flax seed meal goes rancid quickly. if it has not been stored in the fridge in the shop, it has likely gone off already. if you want to use flax seed meal, better to buy the seeds & grind them up as needed.

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43 · September 16, 2013 at 12:44 PM

couldn't have said it better myself. ;D, someone told me that you have to ingest the meal within 5 minutes of you grinding it yourself or else it starts to oxidize very quickly after that time. Might've been dave asprey?

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43 · September 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM

it has to do with the carbon chain length of the fatty acids (how long the fats are), DHA and EPA are long chain fats, ALA is a short chain fat, which means the body has a hard time converting it to a long chain fat like DHA. now DHA and EPA are both prevalent in fish oil, some people take just a DHA supplement from various sources, like algae i think robb wolf said one time, and then the body can convert DHA > EPA, but not the other way around. Fats get really complicated when you start diving in to it...

best bet: just eat grass fed beef, wild fish, and if you REALLY need it, fish oil.

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43 · September 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM

I have to admit, I didn't know that... I guess I was thinking it was short-ER... either way thank you for sharing :).

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19120 · September 16, 2013 at 5:18 PM

ALA is *not* a short chain fatty acid. It is 18:3, EPA is 20:5, and DHA is 22:6. (That's "length in carbons : # carbon double bonds"). A short chain fatty acid is something much shorter - usually no longer than 6 carbons. Irrespective of that, it's true: ALA doesn't convert readily to DHA or EPA.

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154 · September 16, 2013 at 4:34 AM

I was perplexed by the acronyms, so I looked 'em up for all our sakes. ALA = Alpha Lipoic Acid, and DHA is Docosahexaenoic acid. ALA is not usually absorbable but is a supplement that people take. It is a necessary fatty acid. DHA is apparently everyone's current favorite Omega 3 fatty acid, the kind in fish oil, flax seeds...etc.

When I read a bit on wikipedia it became clear that the good fats versus bad fats questions is still quite complicated.

edit by @daz ;

in this particular situation rosabosa, ALA stands for Alpha Linolenic Acid, a 'higher level' omega 3 fatty acid, also deemed to be one of the Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's).

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4458 · September 16, 2013 at 4:54 AM

in this particular situation rosabosa, ALA stands for Alpha Linolenic Acid, a 'higher level' omega 3 fatty acid, also deemed to be one of the Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's)

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0 · August 06, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Matt's last question is exactly what I am also wondering. Can someone please answer back.

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0 · April 14, 2013 at 12:17 AM

The first response said "Flax seed meal may be paleo approved but 1. it is high in ALA which is not readily converted to DHA." I'm pretty new to paleo, so excuse my ignorance, but is this a good thing, or a bad thing?

Thanks for any clarity you might add.

Matt

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602 · August 06, 2013 at 6:51 PM

This is not a good thing. It refers to the bioavailability of the omega 3 fatty acids. Basically, the omega 3 in fish is much more easily used by the human body than the omega 3 from things like flax. Vegans eat flax as a (poor) source of omega 3, but there is no reason that someone eating grass fed beef and wild fish needs to consume potentially rancid and inflammatory flax seeds. Flax isn't inherently toxic like wheat or soy oil, but it is hardly good for you or necessary. If you need a "meal" for something I would use almond over flax, but try to avoid both.

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2049 · February 28, 2013 at 8:14 AM

I find flaxseed a great laxative - don't eat too much!

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0 · February 28, 2013 at 4:17 AM

Buy whole seeds and buy yourself a small grinder. Best thing I ever did, flaxseed and egg pancakes are amazing.

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70 · November 16, 2012 at 4:46 AM

Flax seed oil goes rancid quickly but research has shown that despite the initial fears for ground flax seed based on the oxidation of the oil it tolerates exposure for months without any serious degradation. Because the same naturally occurring antioxidants in the seed protect it after grinding. (Similar to the way astaxathin in the microalgae protects the PUFA in their bodies then in the krill and then in the salmon that consume them.) Buying the whole seed and grinding a tablespoon at a time (usual dose) is easy with an electric coffee grinder. Flax seed also has fiber with anti-estrogen properties. As a source of ALA Omega 3 I prefer chia which has comparable levels of ALA and other nutrients. As a plant source of Omega 3 it is a good analogue of foods that would have been eaten in a species typical evolutionary diet. In Artemis Simopoulos' book on Omega 3 she advocates purslane as an excellent source of ALA and the reason why eggs from free ranging chickens in Greece (her native country) are so healthy. ALA has been the subject of research showing that it has other benefits for human nutrition aside from conversion to EPA and DHA which, agreed, is limited and insufficient.

Both almond and flax have small amounts of cyanogens which are partly or mostly inactivated by cooking. Almonds have been used continuously in the USA but not flax except for Roman Meal Cereal with not a large dose there. So the Flax Institute had to petition the gov't to recognize flax as GRAS, generally accepted as safe status. Another seed oil plant was grown and used in N America and northern Europe, Camelina, but now pretty well forgotten, though my neighbor wants to grow one or the other to produce biodiesel for his tractors. Flax would produce more volume more reliably but in either case he could feed some of the meal after pressing out the oil to his livestock.

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70 · November 16, 2012 at 4:52 AM

Flax is the same as linseed and the natural polyunsaturated oil's drying properties are the basis for oil paints. Accelerators are added when the linseed oil is "boiled" to make it oxidize and polymerize more quickly when it is exposed to air on the surface to be painted.

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70 · November 16, 2012 at 4:53 AM

Chickens will convert some of the ALA (from flax and other sources) to DHA and EPA in their bodies and in the egg yolks.

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