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Is there any downside or danger to GAPS?

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Created September 03, 2011 at 8:00 AM

I've improved my diet and seen lots of improvements in my health (yeah!), but some issues remain.

I'm considering trying GAPS to see if I can take my healing a little bit further. I'm reading the book now.

Just wondering, has anyone had bad experiences with the GAPS diet? Is it something that could only do good?

Question 2: If you tried it, what did it do for you?

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3850 · June 11, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Yeah, that's one part I don't subscribe to. I suppose if you really had severe constipation you might want to try it, but otherwise I don't see a benefit.

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3850 · June 11, 2012 at 6:52 PM

They are pretty specific about slowly buiding up your probiotic dosage, by only using a fraction of a capsule at the beginning.

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15400 · April 22, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Aglaee, I remember you have made a special table comparing all the diets. Could you please provide the link to it? Cannot find it! Thanks!

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3014 · February 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Actually, after being on it for a while I had to stop. I had very dry eyes, dry mouth. I read up on this and discovered these are symptoms of being too low carb. I increased the carb with ones that are allowed on GAPs as much as possible, but it didn't help. The real problem was that all my muscles were wasting away. I'd suddenly touch my arm or my leg and see that it was all flab where there had been some muscle. That's the reason I stopped. That said, it was great for my son.

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3014 · September 04, 2011 at 4:52 AM

The fact that it might be difficult to do, doesn't mean it isn't beneficial. Like I said, I'm not there yet in the book, but it seems that in the introductory phase, you are limited to a very few foods that don't hurt the gut. Then, after healing, you TEST and add back in other foods. I don't think good quality raw cheeses are bad per se, for people iwth a healed gut. I now get mild reactions (tingling sensations), so I pretty much stay away. One of the things I'll like to achieve from GAPs is to be able eat some cheese without reacting. So the yogurt doesn't scare me

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3014 · September 04, 2011 at 4:51 AM

The fact that it might be difficult to do, doesn't mean it isn't beneficial. Like I said, I'm not there yet in the book, but it seems that in the introductory phase, you are limited to a very few foods that don't hurt the gut. Then, after healing, you test and add back in other foods. I don't think good quality raw cheeses are bad per se, for people iwth a healed gut. I now get mild reactions (tingling sensations), so I pretty much stay away. One of the things I'll like to achieve from GAPs is to be able eat some cheese without reacting. So the yogurt doesn't scare me.

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3014 · September 04, 2011 at 4:45 AM

Agreed. I make broth now too.

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5768 · September 04, 2011 at 12:23 AM

This happened to me but no by following GAPs. I notice som IBS symptoms coming back and I dropped my probiotic and they went away.

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329 · September 03, 2011 at 11:54 PM

Thank you :))) I have heard that the first couple of weeks is nothing but broths right? That is pretty interesting, I almost want to get the book for myself now haha

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1515 · September 03, 2011 at 11:36 PM

They CAN BE obstacles becaue they can be hard to implement, especially for someone who is sick! If the term is used incorrectly, I can remove it, but that changes nothing about the fact that almond muffins are unnecessary and possibly detrimental.

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1515 · September 03, 2011 at 11:32 PM

It doesn't surprise me some would disagree with some of the points. They can be obstacles becaue they can be hard to implement, especially for someone who is sick. If the term is used incorrectly, I can remove it, but that changes nothing about the fact that almond muffins are unnecessary and possibly detrimental.

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11099 · September 03, 2011 at 4:49 PM

How are the intro and bone broths obstacles? FYI~frakenfoods are what gmo foods are referred to as..."muffins" made with a few simple whole ingredients are really not in the same category as Monsanto creations.

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3014 · September 03, 2011 at 10:24 AM

The first 100 or so pages go into the theory, and that's where I am in the book. I skipped ahead and quickly skimmed the diet. It also seemed close to what I'm doing anyway. But the intro period is much stricter. You eat only a few foods. When I get there in my reading, I'll post the info.

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329 · September 03, 2011 at 10:07 AM

Just a quick question, I was looking at the food list, and it doesn't seem too different to paleo, in all honesty, except that one is allowed to occasionally consume Liquor, and certain types of cheeses, oh and some beans. Maybe since you have the book you can point out some of the other differences? Not sure what "bad" effect it could have?

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1515 · September 03, 2011 at 2:18 PM

The GAPS is great for healing your gut, but I bet it could be improved individually by factoring in these possible downsides:

  • it encourages yogurt, which will contain dairy protein

  • it allows some foods with antinutrients

  • it allows fruit, honey and fructose (malabsorption means it's food for bacteria)

  • the intro diet and bone broths can be obstacles

  • it encourages foods like almond muffins

  • in SIBO (a cause of IBS, Fibromyalgia, fatigue, brain fog, etc) it stands in contrast to clinically proven methods that make use of antibiotics. However, sticking to the diet would probably lower recurrence.

  • multi-strain probiotics (bifidobacteria) might be problematic in SIBO

  • it doesn't exclude some FODMAPs

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3014 · September 04, 2011 at 4:52 AM

The fact that it might be difficult to do, doesn't mean it isn't beneficial. Like I said, I'm not there yet in the book, but it seems that in the introductory phase, you are limited to a very few foods that don't hurt the gut. Then, after healing, you TEST and add back in other foods. I don't think good quality raw cheeses are bad per se, for people iwth a healed gut. I now get mild reactions (tingling sensations), so I pretty much stay away. One of the things I'll like to achieve from GAPs is to be able eat some cheese without reacting. So the yogurt doesn't scare me

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1515 · September 03, 2011 at 11:32 PM

It doesn't surprise me some would disagree with some of the points. They can be obstacles becaue they can be hard to implement, especially for someone who is sick. If the term is used incorrectly, I can remove it, but that changes nothing about the fact that almond muffins are unnecessary and possibly detrimental.

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11099 · September 03, 2011 at 4:49 PM

How are the intro and bone broths obstacles? FYI~frakenfoods are what gmo foods are referred to as..."muffins" made with a few simple whole ingredients are really not in the same category as Monsanto creations.

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1515 · September 03, 2011 at 11:36 PM

They CAN BE obstacles becaue they can be hard to implement, especially for someone who is sick! If the term is used incorrectly, I can remove it, but that changes nothing about the fact that almond muffins are unnecessary and possibly detrimental.

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3014 · September 04, 2011 at 4:51 AM

The fact that it might be difficult to do, doesn't mean it isn't beneficial. Like I said, I'm not there yet in the book, but it seems that in the introductory phase, you are limited to a very few foods that don't hurt the gut. Then, after healing, you test and add back in other foods. I don't think good quality raw cheeses are bad per se, for people iwth a healed gut. I now get mild reactions (tingling sensations), so I pretty much stay away. One of the things I'll like to achieve from GAPs is to be able eat some cheese without reacting. So the yogurt doesn't scare me.

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11099 · September 03, 2011 at 3:43 PM

GAPS can be a lifesaver for some...I've talked with people who are having amazing results on Natasha's program. The biggest obstacle or danger seems to be symptoms from over doing probiotics in a gut that is so severely out of balance. Best to just back off a bit, and slow down the process...but the intro diet has a lot of healing potential, just listen to your body, as always.

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5768 · September 04, 2011 at 12:23 AM

This happened to me but no by following GAPs. I notice som IBS symptoms coming back and I dropped my probiotic and they went away.

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3850 · June 11, 2012 at 6:52 PM

They are pretty specific about slowly buiding up your probiotic dosage, by only using a fraction of a capsule at the beginning.

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5768 · September 03, 2011 at 11:11 AM

I see no downside or danger since it focuses on gut healing which is what most be need. Beyond that it is very paleo. I also feel the use of homemade chicken broth is something that should be used by everyone.

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3014 · September 04, 2011 at 4:45 AM

Agreed. I make broth now too.

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4703 · February 18, 2012 at 6:09 PM

I think Dr. Campbell-McBride was way ahead of her time with GAPS and the intro phase will be especially useful to someone with severe dysbiosis. I find this talk fascinating and send it to a lot of people http://vimeo.com/10507542

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4002 · February 18, 2012 at 11:53 AM

I believe the GAPS diet is a wonderful tool to heal your gut and correct gut dysbiosis, but like every other diet, it needs to be individualized to your own need.

Start slowly with the different intro stages. Stay at least 4-7 days on each stage so it becomes a true elimination diet protocol. Introduce foods slowly, 1 at a time, every 4-7 days so you will know what your body can or cannot tolerate.

I followed and am still following the GAPS diet (since Sept 1st, 2011) and had great results with my SIBO (my journey here). However, I have to follow a low-carb and dairy-free version of the GAPS diet. I avoids squash, fruits, honey and nuts, but do very well with most veggies, animal protein and fats.

Good luck!

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15400 · April 22, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Aglaee, I remember you have made a special table comparing all the diets. Could you please provide the link to it? Cannot find it! Thanks!

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6229 · June 11, 2012 at 5:53 PM

I support most of the GAPS diet except for the part on enemas which can be dangerous. In a recent WAPF quarterly newsletter a patient had written a letter that they had gone to the ER for too many enemas (probably done wrong). I think the food recommendations are fairly solid.

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3850 · June 11, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Yeah, that's one part I don't subscribe to. I suppose if you really had severe constipation you might want to try it, but otherwise I don't see a benefit.

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200 · February 26, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Ok, I see that this was posted some time ago, but I'll comment anyway...

As an answer to your first question: Yes, I think that GAPS can only do good.

As an answer to nr. 2: I??ve been on GAPS for 2,5 years and so have my children. I have seen the biggest change in my children, the older one (who is now 8 years old), in particular. For me it has generally improved all sides of my not-so-great-health and because of the cautious ways to introduce new foods on and after the introduction stage it has improved my own feeling for my health / body. If interested, please read the details of our stories here (the pages on the right side menu): www.wholenewview.com

Good luck to you!

Helga

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3014 · February 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Actually, after being on it for a while I had to stop. I had very dry eyes, dry mouth. I read up on this and discovered these are symptoms of being too low carb. I increased the carb with ones that are allowed on GAPs as much as possible, but it didn't help. The real problem was that all my muscles were wasting away. I'd suddenly touch my arm or my leg and see that it was all flab where there had been some muscle. That's the reason I stopped. That said, it was great for my son.

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8757 · September 03, 2011 at 7:23 PM

I really don't think there is much of a downside to GAPS other than perhaps the amount of work that goes into preparing foods and not being able to eat much. If you are using all organic natural (soaked and dried) products, any recipe like muffins or pancakes will do no harm, because it is not a processed food in the terms of SAD foods.

I've done (2) 2 week periods of GAPS when I was really suffering from inflammation and having problems, it did help. That said, I need to do it for a bit longer and really get the full healing effect. But I definitely have had some healing effects, just need to stick with it longer.

I have some limitations due to allergies and I don't usually do the yogurt parts either due to casein issues. But that is ok as well, because you really do need to tailor it to your needs for best healing. The probiotics also were hard on me as well, so probably won't do those again either. You have to do whats best for you, only you really know what will work or do more harm.

I have all the books etc. I plan on doing it, just can't right now.

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