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Did I give myself a wheat allergy?

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Created January 01, 2014 at 5:54 AM

When I decided to adopt a more healthful diet, the very first thing I did was cut out gluten. I had never had any specific problems with it but it seemed like an obvious place to start. So I went over a year with no gluten - no wheat, barley, rye, beer, etc. I was fastidious about it. No miracles (or any noticeable changes at all, really) happened but it was easy so I stuck with it. Over the holidays I decided to tune out for a few days and just ate whatever. I ate gluten containing items 4 times. Each time within minutes my mouth would start to tingle and then get itchy. By the fourth time it started to swell a little bit and I began to worry about anaphylaxis as my throat got mildly tight. I decided not to risk it and stopped eating it again. To make sure it wasn't a freak thing that just happened in a foreign environment (my in-law's house) I tried a tiny bite of some at work yesterday and the tingle began again. I've never been allergic to anything in my life but am wondering if I have actually somehow caused myself to be sensitive to wheat by avoiding it. Is that even possible? Everything I've read about people who don't have gluten allergies, but do have sensitivities, actually build up tolerance when they take breaks from it.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

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26172 · January 02, 2014 at 6:15 PM

If I punched you in the arm 6 times everyday. After a few weeks, your expectation would change to the point where the punches would not hurt that much. Then if I gave you a 6 week vacation, and started up again, the pain would be back. This doesn't mean you grew intolerant to pain -- it simply means that your acceptable level of pain increased. May seem nuanced, but it is a significant difference.

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0 · January 02, 2014 at 3:54 AM

Absolutely correct, MiMintzer. Humans are one of (or are we the only one?) the only animals in the world that have the ability to continue to digest milk after infancy, exactly for the reasons you listed there. The enzyme production for lactose digestion is supposed to halt once you're done breast feeding and begin eating solid foods. We have evolved in such a way that the production does continue to some degree. Many people in the world cannot produce enough of those enzymes, or don't produce them at all; ala "lactose intolerance".

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0 · January 02, 2014 at 3:43 AM

I'm not sure of the medical name, but I could ask one of my UCLA medical clients. I believe it's simply adaptation and acclimation. Let's take a step back from the controversy of gluten and examine something more basic; leafy greens.

It's been well documented that the sudden introduction of leafy greens into one's diet can cause extreme discomfort and even sickness... until the body adjusts to be able to process those greens well. So does that mean leafy greens are poison? Of course not! Personally it took me ~9 months of GI yuckiness after adding lettuce or spinach 4+ times a week.

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5201 · January 02, 2014 at 2:59 AM

I thought the dairy thing was different because the production of enzymes that digest lactose ramp down when not needed and often increase again after dairy is reintroduced. Don't know if this is the case for some cases of gluten intolerance.

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0 · January 02, 2014 at 2:33 AM

So, personally belief with no medical/scientific proof is supposed to trump all? Sorry, but that's not the way the world works. I never said staying off of some foods give you an allergy, but an intolerance (different than an allergy) can form from and for almost anything.

I respect that this is what you personally believe, but I don't respect that you're trying to pass it as fact.

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11682 · January 02, 2014 at 2:25 AM

You don't need scientific proof for common sense. As I said, 30 days off any food is STANDARD PRACTICE among doctors to identify food allergy. If staying off some foods GIVE you allergy, then this would already be known. What you claim makes no sense.

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0 · January 02, 2014 at 2:18 AM

So basically what you're saying by avoiding actually answering my question, is that there is no proof that you can provide by any reputable scientific or medical organization.

You could have just said from square one that there is no medical or scientific proof, and that this was your personal belief. That would have been a respectful response.

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0 · January 02, 2014 at 2:12 AM

And from the perspective of someone who is healthy, who has eaten wheat/bread/whatever all of their life, and done the research, what you're saying is uninformed and fear-mongering with no basis in science. There is absolutely no evidence to back up your inaccurate claims that "gluten is poison". Rice and quinoa are also gluten-free, which highlights the inaccuracies of your claims. Corn is most often than not, gluten free as well, especially right off the cob.

It seems as if you're parroting back scare tactics you found somewhere on the internet which have no basis in reality.

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4393 · January 02, 2014 at 1:43 AM

this kinda reminds of some milk/dairy consumption anecdotes i've seen, along the lines of...

'i use to be able to drink loads of milk when i was kid. Now, after having stopped drinking milk & stopped eating breakfast cereals (with milk), i get digestive issues from drinking milk'

...or similar type anecdotes

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5201 · January 02, 2014 at 1:23 AM

Sorry @Eugenia...I was replying to DaMoot. For sure I had a gluten intolerance with only a couple of migraines a month despite eating wheat every day. Now when I eat gluten containing products(not purposely!) I always get a migraine within 24 hours. I assumed that previously my body was overwhelmed by gluten 'allergens', if that is the proper word, and was not always able to mount a response.

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11682 · January 01, 2014 at 10:40 PM

The intolerance was always there, going GF doesn't "cause" any intolerance. It just unmasks it. You claim that if you keep eating some of it will stop this from happening, but in reality, all you do is stopping your immune system from working 100%. IF your body starts reacting to gluten after having eaten it for a while, then simply accept that you're intolerant to it, and always were. Simply avoid it for the rest of your life. There's nothing you can do to "fix" this AND keep your immune system happy at the same time. Personally, I prefer to be 100% GF, at all times.

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5201 · January 01, 2014 at 10:36 PM

So what do you think that mechanism is for avoidance causing gluten intolerance? And even if that were possible (it's not) then all the more reason to not eat something that is clearly bad for your health.

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11682 · January 01, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Oh please. Wheat today is not what it used to be. As for the rest, I have already replied on your comment. If removing gluten for a while was to *create* an intolerance, then it means that gluten was not food in the first place. Doctors are using this practice to discover food intolerance anyway, removing foods for a while is not supposed to create an intolerance. If it happens with gluten (and it only happens with gluten btw, not with rice/corn/quinoa), it's because it's not human food and the immune system was compromised previously for years and couldn't react to it.

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0 · January 01, 2014 at 9:45 PM

Respectfully, can you please provide proof of "paleo people" having fewer illness? I'd like to read which medical papers state this, how large their test base was, and over what length of time the study(ies) were performed.

I'd also like to see where your information regarding wheat/gluten comes from and why thousands of years of humans eating wheat haven't produced an epidemic. Ten minutes of simple research turns up pretty much nothing; bunk "science" and lots of assumptions, but no medical or scientific proof. I've even seen crazies go so far as to accuse wheat as being an opiate.

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11682 · January 01, 2014 at 9:29 PM

What you wrote is inaccurate and fear-mongering. If 30 days off gluten was to create intolerance then no sensitivity tests would work (the standard, cheaper test for most food sensitivity by doctors is to remove a food for 30 days and then re-introduce it). Additionally, the fact that people also cut corn, rice, quinoa and other grains, and then reintroduce them successfully, does not help your theory. The problem is with gluten only because after a while, the immune system has woke up and it doesn't accept poison anymore. You, eating gluten weekly you keep your body from fully healing up.

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26172 · January 02, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Whether you had a latent gluten intolerance, and the long term "dangers" of gluten is moot.

What you have here is a simple case digestive enzymes for grains and gluten being down-regulated. The body does not continue to create enzymes that it doesn't need.

If you continue to eat gluten containing foods, it will probably take 2-3 weeks for your body to accept them again.

Same thing happens whenever you make a drastic dietary change. The body has an amazing capability to adapt to what ever status quo it's given. However, it has a hard time accepting changes. ** This does not mean that you do not have a gluten sensitivity.**

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5 · January 02, 2014 at 4:54 PM

I stopped eating gluten and legumes for about 2 years and recently tried to eat some, everytime I eat gluten I get pretty bad diarrhea and legumes (beans) give me terrible gas. Not saying I gave myself an allergy but they definitely do not belong in my diet.

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15 · January 02, 2014 at 4:56 AM

If you doubt the dangers of gluten and grains to your overall health then I suggest you do a Google search on it and read up on some of the medical and clinical evidence that these grains are actually genetically designed by nature to fight off consumption by human bodies. We are not built to eat them, only cloven hooved animals - some with 4 stomachs - are equipped to deal with the toxins these plants produce in the body. Gluten is poison, and as Eugenia pointed out, your body is now noticing it and clean enough to LET YOU KNOW ABOUT IT by reacting to it. This is because your body is now healthy. Congratulations, keep it up.

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11682 · January 01, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Paleo does NOT create gluten intolerance. What you got there is well understood among the Paleo and GF peeps. Basically, gluten is keeping the immune system under-utilized for years when gluten is injected daily. When gluten is going away, the immune system awakes and performs as it's supposed to perform. This is why Paleo people get fewer colds or infections (very telling are teachers' stories or moms with kids at school where their kids bring back bugs). Anyways, after a month without gluten, the immune system now works. When gluten is ingested again, it is perceived by the body as it's supposed to be perceived: poison, that destroys your body little by little. Your body this time had the right, healthy reaction. So, paleo did not create the intolerance. The intolerance was always there. Masked.

The same goes for hypothyroid symptoms that become visible when *some* people go Paleo. The issue was always there, but now it becomes unmasked.

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0 · January 01, 2014 at 9:45 PM

Respectfully, can you please provide proof of "paleo people" having fewer illness? I'd like to read which medical papers state this, how large their test base was, and over what length of time the study(ies) were performed.

I'd also like to see where your information regarding wheat/gluten comes from and why thousands of years of humans eating wheat haven't produced an epidemic. Ten minutes of simple research turns up pretty much nothing; bunk "science" and lots of assumptions, but no medical or scientific proof. I've even seen crazies go so far as to accuse wheat as being an opiate.

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0 · January 01, 2014 at 6:07 PM

You probably gave yourself a gluten intolerance. A coworker did the same thing. His brainiac doctor told him to cut all gluten out of his diet during his time on Paleo, so he did. He says that he was never sensitive to gluten (or any other food) before, but now two months later if he so much as thinks about eating anything with gluten in it he gets sick or has an alergic-type reaction. He talked to his doctor who apparently admitted that it was an intolerance caused by the diet.

Now, of course take this third hand accounting with a grain of salt, but I've read about it happening to other people in pretty much the exact same way, and in the same way that you're describing.

There are certainly some downsides and maybe even some minor dangers to certain parts of the Paleo diet. :( To personally make sure I never build any intolerance to a basic, natural food like grains (bread, gluten, whatever...), I continue to eat small amounts of bread on my "cheat" day once a week. Usually a nice sour dough or good wheat bread.

Best of luck busting that intolerance!

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26172 · January 02, 2014 at 6:15 PM

If I punched you in the arm 6 times everyday. After a few weeks, your expectation would change to the point where the punches would not hurt that much. Then if I gave you a 6 week vacation, and started up again, the pain would be back. This doesn't mean you grew intolerant to pain -- it simply means that your acceptable level of pain increased. May seem nuanced, but it is a significant difference.

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5201 · January 01, 2014 at 10:36 PM

So what do you think that mechanism is for avoidance causing gluten intolerance? And even if that were possible (it's not) then all the more reason to not eat something that is clearly bad for your health.

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11682 · January 01, 2014 at 9:29 PM

What you wrote is inaccurate and fear-mongering. If 30 days off gluten was to create intolerance then no sensitivity tests would work (the standard, cheaper test for most food sensitivity by doctors is to remove a food for 30 days and then re-introduce it). Additionally, the fact that people also cut corn, rice, quinoa and other grains, and then reintroduce them successfully, does not help your theory. The problem is with gluten only because after a while, the immune system has woke up and it doesn't accept poison anymore. You, eating gluten weekly you keep your body from fully healing up.

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