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Feeding GLUTEN to all our cats?

by (568) Updated November 11, 2013 at 4:00 AM Created October 31, 2013 at 2:53 PM

More and more as I peruse the cat food isle and read the ingredients I find "wheat gluten" listed among the primary ingredients (canned food at least). Not wheat flower but concentrated gluten. Wheat is bad for us (at least most of us) and the main reason is the gluten. I'm finding it more and more difficult though to keep gluten out of my cat's diet. In fact, it would seem the industry wants to make it a staple in cat diets.

Cats are obligate carnivores. The only thing they should be getting from the wheat plant is a bit of greens, most of which they will barf up rather than digesting and metabolizing it. Could the industry really be poisoning our cats by using concentrated gluten as a filler to meet their crude protein benchmarks or am I just overreacting because it does such nasty things to my own body?

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40 · November 03, 2013 at 3:06 PM

@Methodician Sorry for some reason Paleohacks isn't letting me reply as a comment.

I think it depends on the cat. My cat's strangely chill so I've managed to train him to not bother my meals. It's selfish but reasonable, I hesitated on that too xD

In terms of cost, I actually found it cheaper to feed him whole meat instead of cat food. I don't get fancy cuts or anything. His staple is whatever cheap chicken part I find at the supermarket that isn't organ (I feed organ once a week as a vitamin "supplement". I'm afraid too much organ meat might overwhelm his body with selenium and other minerals) which comes down to 3euro/kg or less (lasting a week) while cat food was 6e/kg or more.

I occasionally slightly boil just to get rid of surface bacteria, but it's mostly to give me peace of mind. Cat guts handle bacteria much better than human's and the concern with supermarket meat is mostly bacteria, not parasites. Some people bake their meats for a few minutes but it's more convenient for me to boil. The only issue with cooking too much is that it makes the bones sharp when cut and therefore dangerous if the cat bites through it and swallows without chewing enough.

I feed him before I have breakfast and after I have dinner but feeding him before dinner for you might help your cat avoid interest in dinner as well.

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993 · November 11, 2013 at 4:00 AM

Eew no! Cats are carnivores, and gluten is just as toxic to cats as it is to humans, if not more! It makes them sick! Commercial cat food is loaded with gluten and other grains because it's cheap, but it just keeps the cats fat and alive. Feed your cats a raw food diet (could be tricky for your kitteh to transition, as cats tends to be picky eaters and creatures of habit) or feed your cat commercial raw food. (yes, it does exist, just check the ingredients)

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0 · November 04, 2013 at 4:45 PM

I took my dogs off grains when I did it myself. They are so much healthier for it. It just saddens me I didn't know what I know now when I had cats and other dogs, years ago. I was feeding a dog with diabetes vet recommended dog food with corn in it. :(

My min pin changed the most of the two. He lost weight (needed to), his dandruff went away, a skin colored mole-ish looking thing over his eye disappeared, and he is way happier, running around, more playful, and he's 11.

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0 · November 03, 2013 at 6:55 PM

One of my cats was diagnosed with diabetes a few years ago. Developed from a life of eating dry cat food. Cats natural diet not only contains no grains but practically no carbs. Their optimum diet is below 7% carbs but in nature it's even less. In nature they eat mice and birds and other small animals (all protein and fat).

Take it from me, you should not feed your cat dry food at all. Even grain free can be as high as 30% carbs and other starches will spike blood sugar just as much as grains. Now I have to inject my cat with insulin twice a day for the rest of his life

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40 · November 03, 2013 at 2:58 PM

@Methodician Sorry, for some reason Paleohacks wont let me just add a comment..

In terms of cost, I actually found it cheaper to feed him whole meat instead of cat food. I don't get fancy cuts or anything. His staple is whatever cheap chicken part I find at the supermarket that isn't organ (organ once a week as a vitamin "supplement") which comes down to 3euro/kg or less while cat food was 5E/kg or more. I occasionally slightly boil just to get rid of surface bacteria, but it's mostly to give me peace of mind. Cat guts handle bacteria much better than human's and the concern with supermarket meat is mostly bacteria, not parasites. Some people bake their meats for a few minutes but it's more convenient for me to boil. The only issue with cooking too much is that it makes the bones sharp when cut and dangerous if the cat bites and swallows. I feed him before I have breakfast and after I have dinner but feeding before dinner would probably help your cat avoid interest in dinner as well.

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826 · November 01, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Just like in people food, there are choices in cat food too. We feed grain-free, kitty is healthy and never throws up.

http://www.acana.com/products/regionals/wild-prairie-cat-kitten/

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40 · October 31, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Yes the industry is definitely poisoning our cats. I adopted my cat Axel from a shelter and he arrived to me sick. The shelter had told me he was sent to the vet for a week 2 days before I went to pick him up. I was told to feed him specific foods to help his digestion for reasons til this day unknown (what antibiotics was the kitten given? Only god knows now) and so I did despite the ingredients list scaring me. Note this food was recommended by the vet, and yet the carb content was incomprehensible. Don't get me started on the fact it was dry food. The days I fed him that food, he would vomit occasionally and his excrement smelled very bad. Also, he got sick again, with the same illness he had before I got him. Note that this was not an old cat, he was 4 months then. I brought him to another vet who told me to get behind the counter antibiotic eye gel for humans. I also started feeding him slightly under-boiled meats. Every day he got better until he was cured and never got sick again, never vomited, and had not extremely odorous stools. Who would have thought?

With the little info we have on human nutrition, you can imagine how much less we have on cats'. It's a risk to take but I've been taking a paleo approach for my cat and he's been going great. There are many other success stories online about such things. Some go as far as advocating a raw diet. It depends on you, it's a risk to take. You have to experiment a little, see what works for your cat. I suggest lean meats and whatever you might think he would eat in the wild. I personally give him most often pieces of chicken with bones, since cat teeth are meant to chew small animals' bones. When he was younger I made sure the pieces had bones soft enough for him to chew and swallow properly (while he was losing his baby teeth) I say don't even think about it too much. You'd be surprised at what he can make his way through. As long as it's lean, and not too saturated with fat he would eat.

I could go on forever about this but I'll end it here. Feed him raw or partially boiled/baked meats if you're worried about bacteria. Adopt a paleo approach (think what he would hunt in the wild) and he'll be fine and healthy. If you want more suggestions, don't hesitate to ask! And good luck with your kitty~

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7989 · October 31, 2013 at 7:50 PM

I wonder the same thing about dogs. While they are carnivores, they eat other things to, but they certainly don't need grains! There are raw food diets for dogs and I remember some vet has the "Catkins" diet for dogs and cats that is low in carbs. Makes more sense to me. But I can't convince my husband, so our dog continues to receive canned food and kibble, and she has some digestive issues. I think she needs a doggy version of GAPS!

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188 · October 31, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Pet food is generally filled with grains to cut the cost of feeding your pet, using gluten is an even bigger scam for protein content. If everyone had to pay for high quality meat protein based food, I think we would be overrun with cats and dogs in the street. And if you are unlucky enough to source food from China who knows what else is in the food.

I was looking into buying a hand cranked meat grinder from Amazon and noticed how many people are buying these to make cat food. You might want to consider that if you are as passionate about your cat as you appear. I'm allergic to the little guys so I pay more attention to dog food as I have a big Airedale to feed. I use Canidae which also has cat food.

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2282 · October 31, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Is this really your biggest concern? If so, you are one lucky guy.

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2328 · October 31, 2013 at 3:44 PM

How's your cat been reacting to the cat food you've been feeding it?

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