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Nightshade and Paleo

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Created April 11, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Hi I suffer from Hidradenitis Suppurativa and currently live gluten free. I came across this the other day:

http://robbwolf.com/2012/04/09/putting-hidradenitis-suppurativa-remission-paleo/

There is a bit about nightshades in it. Since I have been eating Gluten Free I have been having a lot of omelettes for breakfast including a lot of bell peppers which seems to have induced an outbreak of facial acne. I also eat a lot of tomato based and chilli pepper based food and now wondering what the hell to eat?

I also suffer from IBS but don't get tummy ache when I eat a gluten free diet apart I do seem to be able able to cheat with bread with no ill effect and dairy doesn't seem to bother me, but I had a jacket potato with tuna the other day and I immediately felt poorly and my stomach balooned, I am now wondering whether it's not gluten at all and if it is nightshades I have a problem with? Can anyone help?

Thanks Michelle

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1017 · May 16, 2012 at 2:04 AM

I'm trying paleo very low salicylate diet and was wondering what foods you've been eating. This diet is very restrictive and I'm finding it hard to get variety.

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5043 · April 11, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Ohhhh. sounds like you don't have a very supportive environment at all. Can you take a month-long solo vacation on a tropical island? (just kidding). One of my two kids is also a picky eater, so I (kind of) know where you're coming from. I guess it's going to be a tough haul, cooking for them AND cooking for you but it doesn't sound like they're going to be on your side here. You're the only one who can help you. THe good thing is that there's not much you can eat at first so at least your meals will be simple!

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10 · April 11, 2012 at 2:56 PM

I know, i've told him he has to be responsible for his own health but he would rather suffer than miss out on the foods he likes. He has serious IBS issues for about 10 years, he felt brilliant on a GF diet fell off the wagon and now eats what he wants. He won't cook for himself, I do all the shopping and cooking, I try and educate my kids but meal times have just become a battlezone, they won't eat it, we have massive rows, my family go on at me about kids don't eat my weird food and how I'm making an issue out of food, they won't eat it & hour later they are starving and begging for cereal.

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1587 · April 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

IMHO, your health should be more important to you (and your husband) than the fact that he doesn't like real food. He should support you and if not, he's a grown man and can cook for himself. Also, you can educate your kids about good nutrition and what all the garbage does to their bodies, over time they will adjust (or stay hungry ;))

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10 · April 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM

thanks gydle, sounds straightforward... but with a mega busy life, work, and fussy kids and husband who won't eat what I eat... the AI protocol cuts out gluten, dairy, nightshades, eggs, nuts - what do I eat? My husband doesn't like salad, roasted vegetables, mushrooms, sweet potato, squash, lamb, chicken, pork, offal or fish I am pretty screwed as to what to cook and end up cooking three lots of meals...

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5043 · April 11, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Wow - thanks for the link. This is fascinating. It sounds like you should do what she says - go for the autoimmune protocol and then gradually reintroduce things and see what triggers your HS. Pretty straightforward, actually.

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10 · August 06, 2013 at 1:30 AM

I have had manifestations of HS for more than 20 years and I also stumbled upon Primal Girl's post about nightshades. I have been working on staying Paleo since last September when I was diagnosed with diabetes and have since dropped 30 pounds. I quit smoking in October.

I have continuous flares and infection under my arms. I take turmeric to reduce inflammation but it seems to be less and less effective - hopefully only due to the huge amount of tomatoes and peppers I have been consuming.

I have eaten hot peppers and tomatoes all my life - In a past life, I must have been Mexican because Mexican food and I are like this :::twines fingers together:::. I didn't eat eggs too much because they really irritated my stomach, caused me to bloat terribly.

Last November I realized, quite suddenly, that I had a gallbladder problem. I went to my doctor and told her that I needed my gallbladder removed, we did some tests and then had it removed. After it was removed, I was able to eat eggs without any "apparent" problem.

Every morning after my surgery, I ate two scrambled eggs with salsa. For lunch, I ate 6 ounces of chicken and a handful of frozen vegetables, then for supper, I had a gigantic salad with 6 ounces of chicken, tomatoes, jalapeno slices and my guilty pleasure - ranch dressing.

On August 1st 2013, I cut out all tomatoes, peppers and eggs (because I read that they can cause irritation) and then started experimenting with dabbing milk of magnesia on my spots and letting it dry. So far, the milk of magnesia treatments are inconclusive - my underarms really hurt in spot-central locations, but the spots seem to be draining , which causes my underarms to chafe.

This past Sunday morning, we went to Golden Corral for breakfast, like we always do - where I normally would get scrambled eggs with jalapenos, bell peppers, mushrooms and onions or a spinach omelet with mushrooms, jalapenos, bell peppers, onions and a few pieces of bacon.

Just to see what would happen with my underarms (even though they weren't healed up but they weren't terribly painful ... ) I went and got a big clump of cheese enchiladas with spicy red sauce and ate every bit of it. And loved it!!!

Well, my underarms flared up again, so I think that I may be on to something with cutting out nightshades. Now all I have to do is pretend I don't like them and don't miss them...

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20908 · April 11, 2012 at 1:35 PM

I'll quote Robb Wolf on this: try it for 30 days and see what happens? The worst case is that you miss out on some tasty food for a month, the best case is that you heal up.

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0 · January 23, 2013 at 6:25 PM

I have HS and half successfully used Gluten Free and Paleo to help my HS greatly. I have a group of 165 people with the same goal. All are welcome to join. It is a private group so you have to ask to join. The HS Diet Connection. http://www.facebook.com/groups/hsandglutenfree/?bookmark_t=group

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467 · August 08, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Someone with HS claims to heal by staying away from nightshades:

http://www.primalgirl.com/2012/03/10/primalgirl-opens-up-hidradenitis-suppurativa-part-2/

I too have HS, but don't have anything conclusive about nightshades. I'll start paying more attention to it.

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4176 · April 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Like almost any exclusion diet, once you get going with it you are fine. I started the AI protocol last month and found it actually rather easy and felt great doing it for the two weeks I was able to actually do it. While traveling extensively the past few weeks, I had to reintroduce eggs because my options were so limited (and I also ate all sorts of crap, feel terrible, and am gleefully getting back into a very strict paleo routine).

I thought it would be hell to give up my full fat yogurt, but now I don't even think about it. I say give it a try for about two weeks. If it seems too daunting, just give up one thing at a time and see how you fare. My guess, based exclusively on my own experience, is that the nightshades or the egg whites are the culprit of your acne.

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80 · April 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM

I had this condition for a few months and was able to trace it back to salicylates -both in topical personal care producst, household and environmental products, and in food. I have to eat a paleo very low salicylate diet. Haven't had a problem since salicylates were eliminated and avoided

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1017 · May 16, 2012 at 2:04 AM

I'm trying paleo very low salicylate diet and was wondering what foods you've been eating. This diet is very restrictive and I'm finding it hard to get variety.

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2409 · April 11, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Nightshades contain high levels of alkaloids. This can be problematic for some people but not everyone. The nightshade family is very diverse but includes potatoes, tomatoes, sweet and hot peppers, eggplant, tomatillos, tamarios, pepinos, pimentos,and paprika. In addition, some eggplants in particular contain some nicotine in their skin. I would recommend a try it and see approach with each one.

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