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What are the top 5 reasons why you avoid grains?

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Created October 19, 2010 at 2:21 AM

We all avoid grains. But, why? There is an unlimited amount of reasons to do so. I want to know why YOU avoid grains. We all learn better when we here opinions from a variety of people. Do you avoid them simply because its a non paleo food or have you had specific problems with them? Maybe you have way more energy or have lost weight.

Tell us why YOU avoid them - not why your friend Fred avoids them.

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716 · March 04, 2012 at 10:12 PM

lol @ fiber-one bars being like crack cocaine.

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1159 · January 03, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Yeah totally agree with those 5 reasons. Just had a major carbs+gluten binge these last few days and although it was kind of nice because i have a sweet tooth and all, the price i paid (tremors, mental confusion, depression, gas, bloating) was totally not worth it . But i was needing to be reminded of how bad it actually is, so there ya go :)

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836 · January 03, 2011 at 1:31 PM

You lose weight when you eat below your caloric balance. If you ate a high carb diet and lost weight that was because you were eating less calories. If you ate a Paleo diet and gained weight it is because you were eating more calories than you burn. People were losing weight long before the Paleo diet, and extremely well (see bodybuilders who go down to low body fat percentages). People also use the Paleo diet when they want to gain weight, such as athletes and weightlifters. They eat Paleo foods in a great quantity thus increasing calories.

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20411 · October 19, 2010 at 1:59 PM

Always enjoy a movie reference! (Love Story)

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22913 · October 19, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Well, cookies and cream has grains.. Some ice creams have soy, so you "could" argue it ;)

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24523 · October 19, 2010 at 1:23 PM

See, I got such bad carb-rage that I forgot ice cream wasn't a grain.

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15976 · October 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM

ah, i forgot digestive issues. yes yes, totally. after eating grainy foods, even fully sprouted WAPstyle ones years ago, i still always had gas, unnaturally formed bowel movements, etc. I think theyre rough on the ol GI for sure.

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3651 · October 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM

ice cream is just a nice way to make the slope more slippery. usually when i am climbing ice cream mountain, pizza valley is just over the ridge next to lake o' beer

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22913 · October 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM

Ice cream is milk/sugar not really grains

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9647 · October 19, 2010 at 5:05 AM

Mark Sisson on top of things already in June, 2008.

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2765 · October 19, 2010 at 4:55 AM

So perhaps my description of being bloated and water filled is different from yours...but these are my reasons for avoiding them except for my one cheat meal a week.

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2765 · October 19, 2010 at 4:55 AM

Kamal, when i did the anabolic diet, it was wonderful for muscle gains, helping take me from the 170lbs I'd gotten down to up to a little around 210lbs at 7% bodyfat 3 years ago. It was very similar to paleo for 5 days followed by 2 days of carb loading. Basically, eating high fat, high carb foods without worrying about the protein. I would gain 10-15lbs over a weekend of carb loading then pee it all off by Wed or Thur... when i speak of bloating, I mean the extra water held in the muscle cells. And of course a lot of extra water in the GI system too...leading to diarrhea the next day.

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24523 · October 19, 2010 at 3:56 AM

Payam: no! Protein elicits a greater than expected insulin index, but carbs are still the masters at this. And insulin may be good for amino acid uptake. See here...http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/

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10502 · October 19, 2010 at 3:42 AM

"Nutella demands attention once it lodges itself in your cabinet" = classic!

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851 · October 19, 2010 at 3:28 AM

as for #5, doesnt protein elicit a greater insulin response than carbs?

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24523 · October 19, 2010 at 2:47 AM

Andy- those are good reasons, but I was under the impression that carbohydrate stores (glycogen) are not the culprit in bloatedness. I've been supra-saturated with glyocogen after carb loading during ketogenic diets, and that is a very different feeling from bloatedness.

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12174 · October 19, 2010 at 2:32 AM

  1. They are crack-cocaine to me. Fiber-One bars? Breakfast cereal? Bread? Crackers? Chips? Rendered me insatiable. My life is so much more sane without the case of the nomnomnoms brought on by grains.
  2. Knowing that the longer I'm off grains, the more likely I am to be sickened once I eat them, makes it easier for me to stay away.
  3. On a TMI note, I'm a lot less bloated without grains in my diet.
  4. It's forcing me to eat a far wider variety of animal protein, veggies, and fruits in order to get my fuel, and I know those are more nutrient-dense and better for me.
  5. I have a lot more even energy and also better sleep because I'm not riding the insulin roller coaster.

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24523 · October 19, 2010 at 3:56 AM

Payam: no! Protein elicits a greater than expected insulin index, but carbs are still the masters at this. And insulin may be good for amino acid uptake. See here...http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/

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851 · October 19, 2010 at 3:28 AM

as for #5, doesnt protein elicit a greater insulin response than carbs?

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9647 · October 19, 2010 at 5:05 AM

Mark Sisson on top of things already in June, 2008.

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1159 · January 03, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Yeah totally agree with those 5 reasons. Just had a major carbs+gluten binge these last few days and although it was kind of nice because i have a sweet tooth and all, the price i paid (tremors, mental confusion, depression, gas, bloating) was totally not worth it . But i was needing to be reminded of how bad it actually is, so there ya go :)

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716 · March 04, 2012 at 10:12 PM

lol @ fiber-one bars being like crack cocaine.

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22913 · October 19, 2010 at 10:51 AM

  • No Counting Calories.

  • More room for tasty tasty Meat.

  • Superhuman immune system

  • Boundless Energy

  • No Digestive Issues

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15976 · October 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM

ah, i forgot digestive issues. yes yes, totally. after eating grainy foods, even fully sprouted WAPstyle ones years ago, i still always had gas, unnaturally formed bowel movements, etc. I think theyre rough on the ol GI for sure.

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10502 · October 19, 2010 at 3:43 AM

Avoiding grains effectively ended the migraine headaches that had plagued me since childhood.

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24523 · October 19, 2010 at 2:40 AM

I avoid grains because I love them. But love means never having to say you're sorry, so I try to avoid all contact nowadays.

Really though, I second the "grain as crack" idea. I absolutely love(d) stuffing my face full of bread, chips, and candy. No noticeable acute grain detriments for me though.

  1. Ten chips are never enough
  2. Bread and olive oil taste so healthy
  3. Nutella demands attention once it lodges itself in your cabinet
  4. Ice cream makes me susceptible to colds
  5. Ice cream makes me susceptible to indigestion

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24523 · October 19, 2010 at 1:23 PM

See, I got such bad carb-rage that I forgot ice cream wasn't a grain.

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22913 · October 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM

Ice cream is milk/sugar not really grains

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10502 · October 19, 2010 at 3:42 AM

"Nutella demands attention once it lodges itself in your cabinet" = classic!

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20411 · October 19, 2010 at 1:59 PM

Always enjoy a movie reference! (Love Story)

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3651 · October 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM

ice cream is just a nice way to make the slope more slippery. usually when i am climbing ice cream mountain, pizza valley is just over the ridge next to lake o' beer

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22913 · October 19, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Well, cookies and cream has grains.. Some ice creams have soy, so you "could" argue it ;)

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3756 · October 19, 2010 at 2:22 PM

  1. I don't like holes in my gut
  2. Grains cause me to break out in eczema
  3. Grains cause uncomfortable bowel movements (for me....ahem*...)
  4. I also get slightly bloated after ingesting grains
  5. Fatty-fat tastes so much better...mmmm....

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4464 · October 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM

1 - All headaches have gone away since dropping grains from my diet.

2 - All heartburn has gone away since dropping grains from my diet.

3 - I'm 25lbs lighter.

4 - I've learned what they do to my body.

5 - I'm not a grazing herd animal; I've learned not to eat like one.

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15976 · October 19, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Five reasons i do not eat grains (although soba noodles in japan were seriously delicious):

  1. allows me to eat more roasted chickens

  2. makes life generally simpler as far as shopping, cooking, etc.

  3. allows me to eat more at a meal without any "heavy" feeling later. Bloat some call it. whatever. I just never feel bad after eating now (which sounds funny when you stop and read that, but its true that so many people look at eating as this thing that will make them feel WORSE!)

  4. keeps me from binging on crap. With grain foods i never had perspective on how much energywise i was consuming so, bam, whole bag of chips, or giant bowl of cereal, blah blah just goes down too easily. Not natural.

  5. Makes me confident that i am healthier and lead a happier life. Just knowing that goes a long, long way.

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588 · October 19, 2010 at 5:19 AM

  1. No grains = veins on abdomen with almost no effort/exercise
  2. No more digestion issues
  3. Better skin
  4. No Grain = Low-Carb = Low-Insulin = Longer Healthier Life
  5. Did I mention veins on my abs? ;)

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2029 · March 30, 2013 at 2:11 AM

1) Most grain products are gluten products. I really love not having to take off work because of debilitating seasonal allergies every other week anymore.

2) Of all the food groups recognized as "real food" out there, grains are of the least nutritious. Not worth make a point to include from a nutritional standpoint.

3) When I have $15, I'd rather spend it on a ribeye than a plate of cheap pasta. There are far too many tasty foods out there to waste every meal mourning bread.

4) Not including grains makes it easier to manage my carb intake. I'm pretty "moderate carb" by Paleo standards, but since grain-based convenience foods are off the menu, it's a lot easier to not be stupid with my carb consumption.

5) Laziness/creativity. You could look at it either way. I'm too lazy to make homemade gluten free baked goods all the time. I'm too creative to think a lunch is not a lunch without something stuffed between two slices of bread.

That said, my reasons for eating some grains anyway:

1) Nutrition isn't the only valuable reason to eat. Eating Mexican food, complete with nixtamalized corn, gives me a great deal of pleasure.

2) I have no digestive or immune issues with certain grains. Grains don't give me any additional metabolic issues over any other carb source. No need to make my diet any more complicated than it has to be.

3) Some grains are just as nutrient-dense as some tubers.

4) The antinutrient content of most grains is far less than that of most nuts.

5) I'm too lazy/creative with my food, so my overall consumption of grains in the grand scheme of my diet is so low, it's not worth becoming dogmatic about it.

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150 · January 03, 2011 at 1:00 PM

I avoid grains because:

  1. Without them I lose weight effortlessly
  2. Without them I am not hungry constantly
  3. Without them I can eat juicy, fat meat instead
  4. Without them I no longer have constant flatulence and a bloated belly like a troll
  5. Without them my mind is clear and focused

I will avoid grains short of starvation, as the difference in me is so marked and wonderful without them. I have lost 10 lbs since mid November. I was despairing that I had old age weight gain at 54, and there was nothing I could do, slower metabolism and all that. It was not true. I am female, 5'2, and went from 123 to 113 and still losing; all thanks to Paleo.

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2269 · October 20, 2010 at 12:05 AM

Awhile back I posted about recurrence of Grover's Disease after an eat-anything-I-damned-well-want carby grain-product-y binge at an enormous buffet after having it in remission for some time. That was a few weeks ago, and it's since healed except for one little spot. So knowing what I know about grains, and specifically how they affect me, I got plenty of reasons to avoid the little bastards.

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10 · October 19, 2010 at 9:20 AM

In my case my five are: (a)No more IBS (b) It makes it easy to stay slim and eat as much as I like (c) No more gluten making me sick and depressed (d) No waiting for half an hour or more for damn whole grains to cook (e) More room for bacon! (this should be no 1)

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4181 · October 19, 2010 at 3:16 AM

I am also a slave to the "crack" that is processed carbs. I'm almost 40 years old and have always had weight issues. I've never been successful in losing more than 20 pounds and keeping it off until I cut the grains out. I'm down 45 pounds now and it's been pretty easy. Even easier since I really didn't realize I had any physical issues with grains until I quit eating them and then had the occasional cheat meal where it made me sick as a dog for two days after. Never have gas or bloating, cramps and general lethargy while eating paleo.

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1344 · October 19, 2010 at 2:43 AM

I am heading towards insulin issues. I didn't know it, and I am not terribly overweight, but I thought that I was having hypoglycemia, but when I purchased a glucometer, I found out that I was at the high end of normal. I have also listened to every one of Robb Wolf's podcast and he really sells how bad they are. I do notice digestive issues when I have them, so I avoid them completely. I definitely have much more of a flat belly without them. I know about all of the inflammation that they cause in the body and based on the nutrition, I don't think that they are worth it at all. Since I have been off of them, I don't crave them. I actually think that they sound disgusting! From a girl, that ate pizza every day :) Woo hoo!

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0 · March 29, 2013 at 11:42 PM

I binged on pizza and waffles 4 days and I am so sick. Taking 4 days to finally feel OK. Grain is disgusting. And any packaged grain is like puffed air. No substance. Signed up for farm delivery and excited to fall in love w fresh veggies. Who knew fresh picked veggies were so tender and ridiculously delicious? ?

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668 · October 20, 2010 at 3:27 PM

  1. IBS
  2. GERD
  3. Stomach Pain
  4. Bloating
  5. More Energy than ever!

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20411 · October 19, 2010 at 1:56 PM

My reasons are not unlimited:

They mess with my intestinal health.

Now that I've been off them, I feel really bad when I eat them (stomach cramping, bloat, gas, trips to the potty)

They mess with my blood sugar, causing hard to correct swings.

Everything I've read about them is negative, with no real upside (except eating them to avoid starvation). Facts about grains that support not eating them: high carb (glucose/insulin response), not nutrient dense, gluten, WGA, lectins, gliadins, phytates - I think that's more than enough!!

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655 · October 19, 2010 at 12:59 PM

I avoid grains based on the science. I actually tolerate them just fine and lost 85 lbs on a high carb low fat diet (I exercised a lot). However, I have not done nearly as much cardio and i'm still at least 10 lbs away from my lean weight. i'm 5'10 180 lbs but for some reason I have gained some weight due to inactivity. Shouldn't it be the other way around if i'm following Paleo soundly? Must be the cheats every now and then... Although sometimes I do wonder if I would get back to the shape i was in on a high carb diet, since I was never sick I don't think i'm gluten intolerant. Be it the case, would including a little grain be disastrous?

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836 · January 03, 2011 at 1:31 PM

You lose weight when you eat below your caloric balance. If you ate a high carb diet and lost weight that was because you were eating less calories. If you ate a Paleo diet and gained weight it is because you were eating more calories than you burn. People were losing weight long before the Paleo diet, and extremely well (see bodybuilders who go down to low body fat percentages). People also use the Paleo diet when they want to gain weight, such as athletes and weightlifters. They eat Paleo foods in a great quantity thus increasing calories.

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2765 · October 19, 2010 at 2:36 AM

Each 1g of carbohydrate holds 4g of water. I don't like to be bloated, puffy, and have diarrhea. A also didn't enjoy taking insulin 3 times a day when i was 300lbs. I prefer having a metabolism that utilizes fat for fuel instead of leaving it behind to clog my arteries and make my clothes too tight. Oh yeah, and the insulin spikes that come from 8-10 servings of grains/day...and the MS symptoms that they make worse...I don't like those either.

Any questions?

I do however, have one "cheat" meal per week without ill effects. So strictly paleo? No...but what I do works for me.

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2765 · October 19, 2010 at 4:55 AM

Kamal, when i did the anabolic diet, it was wonderful for muscle gains, helping take me from the 170lbs I'd gotten down to up to a little around 210lbs at 7% bodyfat 3 years ago. It was very similar to paleo for 5 days followed by 2 days of carb loading. Basically, eating high fat, high carb foods without worrying about the protein. I would gain 10-15lbs over a weekend of carb loading then pee it all off by Wed or Thur... when i speak of bloating, I mean the extra water held in the muscle cells. And of course a lot of extra water in the GI system too...leading to diarrhea the next day.

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24523 · October 19, 2010 at 2:47 AM

Andy- those are good reasons, but I was under the impression that carbohydrate stores (glycogen) are not the culprit in bloatedness. I've been supra-saturated with glyocogen after carb loading during ketogenic diets, and that is a very different feeling from bloatedness.

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2765 · October 19, 2010 at 4:55 AM

So perhaps my description of being bloated and water filled is different from yours...but these are my reasons for avoiding them except for my one cheat meal a week.

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