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What if the problem with bread is actually zinc deficiency?

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Created December 16, 2013 at 12:46 AM

I think sometimes the cause and effect get reversed...like iron deficiency and H. pylori. What if we are all just zinc/magnesium deficient and a sufficiency could provide us with the digestive oomph necessary for moderate *bread consumption?

*I don't mean nasty fake bread--I mean real sourdough.

http://www.naturalnews.com/042519_gluten_intolerance_mineral_deficiency_zinc.html

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26172 · December 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM

The New Wonder Bread -- fortified with vitamins, minerals, and now -- Zinc!

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333 · December 16, 2013 at 1:13 PM

fascinating info, thanks! I did find a discussion of factors potentially involved in zonulin, link below, in a celiac forum. You are probably aware of them already. :-)

http://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/topic/47795-zonulin-leaky-gut-and-gluten-sensitivity/

another random odd factoid I just came across: apparently runners who aren't hydrated sufficiently increase leaky gut in as little as 20 minutes

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333 · December 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Zinc deficiency induces membrane barrier damage and increases neutrophil transmigration in Caco-2 cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18716167

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333 · December 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Zinc deficiency induces membrane barrier damage and increases neutrophil transmigration in Caco-2 cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18716167

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41422 · December 16, 2013 at 2:03 PM

I'd give it more credence if it wasn't a wackadoo news source quoting oddball doctors making wild-ass guesses.

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333 · December 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM

found another link about zonulin:

"celiacs produce 30 times as much zonulin as non-celiacs, even though the non-celiacs were not eating gluten-free diets while the celiacs had been off gluten for over two years"

"Dr. Fasano's group has also published a study showing that bacteria such as E. coli and Salmonella stimulate zonulin production in isolated intestinal tissue, and another recent study showed that short-term inoculation of rats with E. coli and Shigella enhanced the ability of gluten to cause intestinal damage while inoculation with Bifidus bacteria virtually eliminated gluten's ability to cause damage. Neither of these studies show that dysbiosis contributes to celiac, or that it is responsible for the persistence of zonulin production on a gluten-free diet, but they offer strong support to the plausibility of these hypotheses."

http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2011/04/what-no-one-is-saying-about-zonulin-is.html

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17103 · December 16, 2013 at 11:18 AM

That's nice, but how does that disable gluten/gliadin's effect on zonulin, and the autoimmune damage that causes?

If that were the true cause, then eating tons of meat, or shellfish would fix it - it does not.

Read it again carefully, it doesn't say that supplementing with zinc and/or magnesium disables the action of gluten/gliadin, it says that gluten prevents the absorption of zinc and that zinc heals the gut, and that maybe, the intolerance reaction is due to lack of zinc/magnesium

That does not negate the fact that these substances cause damage to the gut, leading to leaky-gut which leads to autoimmune diseases. It doesn't mean that if you supplement with zinc and magnesium that you'll prevent autoimmune disease, merely that you'll help heal the damage that gluten has caused after the fact. By that time, enough foreign proteins would have entered the blood stream, causing the immune system to see them as invaders, and over the long term, eventually seeing your own tissues as foreign because gluten is a short chain amino that matches many of our own sequences.

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333 · December 16, 2013 at 1:13 PM

fascinating info, thanks! I did find a discussion of factors potentially involved in zonulin, link below, in a celiac forum. You are probably aware of them already. :-)

http://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/topic/47795-zonulin-leaky-gut-and-gluten-sensitivity/

another random odd factoid I just came across: apparently runners who aren't hydrated sufficiently increase leaky gut in as little as 20 minutes

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198 · December 16, 2013 at 5:00 AM

Zinc bread, a new product for those that want the bread back in their life.

It's been two years since I've had any bread and I'm over the knead for it.

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26172 · December 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM

The New Wonder Bread -- fortified with vitamins, minerals, and now -- Zinc!

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0 · December 16, 2013 at 4:14 AM

I would be overjoyed if that's the case!

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