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Is Paleo Bogus for Weight Loss?

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Created October 14, 2012 at 4:37 PM

When I first went Paleo and starting losing weight, I thought it was because there was something magical about taking out grains and sugars, but when looking at my old diaries, my calories were lower than the way i was eating when I was eating grain and sugars. If I lost weight on Paleo because of the calorie deficient, couldn't I theoretically just eat "regular" food on a calorie controlled diet and lose weight like so much of the media prescribes? I'm not supporting doing that, I'm just seriously stumped and confused on it. I know there has to be an answer out there to this. If Paleo works because of the lowering of your insulin levels and carbs, then why can people lose weight on something like the "Potato Diet" when the carbs (and thus insulin levels) are spiking so high? Which makes me think hey, it really isn't about the carbs or insulin spikes but about the calories...? Or am I really off? I always understood not to eat grains or sugars because they put your body in fat storage mode and don't let your body access it's adipose tissue, but if you were in a calorie deficient even while eating grains, then wouldn't the body access body adipose anyways? I'm just really confused on the whole thing. I'm not supporting other diets, but I'm close to just not being Paleo (which I WANT to be Paleo because I know it's healthier) if it's all about that calorie deficient. Someone PLEASE RE-INSPIRE ME, IS there something TRULY key to not having grains and sugars for weight loss or is it just the fact that it reduces calories in most cases? Because I am so close to being like my sister and following "it's about portions, you can eat whatever you want in small amounts" theory (who eats normal food and is thin). I never thought that could work for me because when I was trying to lose weight on "normal" food I never could, even when counting calories, but maybe I was just underestimating my daily intake? Or was there something key about taking those grains and sugars out when I finally started losing weight? I would also like to know the answer to this not only to myself but when OTHER people ask me why I don't eat grains or sugars.

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Checking back in. My constipation has now been all but eliminated by drinking Natural Calm each night and having a comforatable movement in the morning. I also started incorporating the Carb Addicts Diet, with paleo foods, and have finally been able to loosen my belt again after only a week.

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92 · April 24, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Hi Nathan. I also have had chronic constipation after 20 years of veganism and the last 8 being low fat raw vegan (80/10/10). My energy has also dipped and my joints are becoming inflamed since changing my diet but I do feel a little calmer and my insatiable hunger has now gone. I haven't added meat back in but am eating fish and eggs. Like you I'm going to stick with it a little longer and hope things resolve themselves in time. Peace x

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723 · January 31, 2013 at 3:57 AM

Yes! Protein digestion actually uses 20-30% of the protein calories consumed. 10% of calories from carbs are used in digestion, and 2-3% of calories are used in fat digestion

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748 · October 19, 2012 at 1:44 AM

love this comment. thanks so much for the inspiration!

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 8:17 AM

That said, im sure we've all done our fair share of "cheating". Maybe the OP just needs to stray away, see how she feels, see if paleo did anything for her? If she feels gross and gains weight, she might change her mind. Unless she hasnt been paleo long enough to see full benefits.

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Oh plus paleo made my hypoglycemia go away :)

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Gas! Lots of bloating. And acne. And tired. Or i catch a cold. Have anxiety attacks. Yeah, lots reasons for me not to stray too far.

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 8:06 AM

I wouldnt go back to a SAD. Even after 1 cheat day i feel ill. Maybe it's easier to stay motivated to eat paleo if you are more sensitive to grains, sugars and (some) dairy, and just feel better in your gut and brain when you eat paleo?

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 8:00 AM

This is so true! I did the calorie count thing a few times but after about a week i would get lazy and tired of doing it!

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Lebel, hahaha!! Almost peed my pants. Iphones are funny. I meant level!!

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 7:53 AM

If you want to be "fat" skinny, do the SAD portion control thing. If you want to be healthy and build & maintain nice muscle tone,lebel out blood sugar & many other great things--stick with paleo/primal!

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748 · October 16, 2012 at 5:12 AM

thanks Jenn! good to know I'm not the only one that wonders. counting plays a role until we are in tune with our true hunger I guess :/

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748 · October 16, 2012 at 5:10 AM

thanks for this great comment! I'm going to take your advice on the 4-6 week diet

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26182 · October 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Ah, Mscott, you got me. I forgot about lipo-surgery and amputation. You win!

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12677 · October 15, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Yeah, you don't have to be in a calorie deficit to lose weight–what if you're overeating calories but you cut your arm off? Kidding of course =D, good answer CD.

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220 · October 15, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Kelly thanks for that suggestion. I read Robb Wolfes book to start but I am always looking for more information.

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385 · October 15, 2012 at 2:36 PM

me too!!! lol!!

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487 · October 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Amber, have you read any books on Paleo? If you are only getting information from the internet, I find that to be very confusing for a new person to Paleo and there are so many "right" answers to a question. I'd recommend for you "It Starts With Food", because it goes over why any food is or isn't Paleo, with scientific backup.

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26182 · October 15, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Elunah, the question was not about losing fat, it was about losing weight. A caloric deficit is needed, thermodynamics does not cease to exist for Paleo dieters. Also, it is not debatable that ingestion of calories is the first order effect. However, your point is accurate in that, you can vary the second-order effects (through diet, exercise, etc) and either (1) create a caloric deficit without changing the magnitude of ingest calories OR (2) create a change in how the body utilizes and stores the ingest calories.

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2613 · October 15, 2012 at 12:34 PM

It's debatable that you HAVE to be at a caloric deficit to lose weight, especially if you're just trying to lose fat. Dietary stress (through metabolic derangement from SAD dieting) can cause your body to store a higher baseline level of adipose. Removing some of those stressors (e.g. gluten) can reduce that baseline even with a caloric surplus.

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5381 · October 14, 2012 at 10:54 PM

If it were about calorie deficit, then at least being in deficit on paleo is satiating, whereas portion control is not. However I kind of doubt is only deficit. There is alot more to calories in and out, than just the standard explaination regardless. Take coconut oil, or even probably milk fats. They kick up your metabolism, and thus increase your "out". Anybody with hyperthyroid will tell you, you can lose weight, eating well in excess of calories if your metabolism is fast. And theres the efficiency of the liver in shifting adipose.

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5381 · October 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM

" If Paleo works because of the lowering of your insulin levels and carbs, then why can people lose weight on something like the "Potato Diet" when the carbs (and thus insulin levels) are spiking so high? " I would guess that nutrient deficiencies that cause breakdowns in metabolism are responsible for the weight loss of mono-food diets.

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Wow it speeds up your metabolism naturally, very cool! Thanks for some re-inspiration and sharing!

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Thanks CD! I wasn't trying to imply that Paleo is about weight loss, because I know there are other tremendous health benefits. But being weight loss was the reason I started it, I think your right, being Paleo you tend to naturally eat less, and have more energy. Thanks for some re-inspiration!

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:06 PM

great comment thanks so much!

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM

thanks for sharing! good point.

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Thanks David I'll try to do that! Maybe your right, I just went Paleo in order to lose weight, but then I started to question if it was the necessary way to achieve that weight loss. NO DENYING that besides weight loss Paleo is fantastic on the entire spectrum of health, but I was just referring to weight loss.

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Thanks David I'll try to do that! Maybe your right, I just went Paleo in order to lose weight, but then I questioned if it was the necessary way to achieve that weight loss and started question some things. NO DENYING that besides weight loss Paleo is fantastic on the entire spectrum of health, but I was just referring to weight loss.

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716 · October 14, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Or another example, centenarians. It's not like they typically live much different from other people, yet they live above 100.

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716 · October 14, 2012 at 7:31 PM

I have many friends who eat absolutely anything and everything, don't exercise, yet are muscular and at below 10% body fat. How else do we explain that but good genes?

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20908 · October 14, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Came here to say mostly this. I discount genetics. We're much more the same than we are different. People often pull out the genetics card too much when things don't work for them. Everything else is spot on, though.

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Totally agree, but TECHNICALLY if paleo is just to keep hunger at bay, if one only eats 1-2 times a day and doesn't mind being a little hungry, couldn't they safely eat non paleo foods (like a burrito) without negative effect on weight loss as long as one's not eating more calories than they expend? :/ Again, I thought weight loss was due to lowering insulin levels, but I know plenty of people who lose weight just be being in calorie deficient, paleo or not. Maybe Paleo is just for those of us who struggle with portion control (me) but maybe I could learn to control it and lose weight still?

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1127 · October 14, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Are other diets sustainable? Can one really live a life on a potato diet or caloric restriction? Is eating fun? Is one being to strict? These are comparative questions I would ask when considering other nutritional strategies or even a treat.

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4632 · October 14, 2012 at 5:36 PM

I think this might be a good thing to try out. I remember breaking paleo for about 2-3 weeks once, I had some of my old favorite treats (cookies, muffins, etc), still within calorie range, but about 3-4 days in, my joints started feeling stiff and inflamed in the mornings, especially those in my hands, and I then I remembered having that feeling a lot before, but I forgot about it when it went away when I cut out gluten specifically. I didn't gain weight, but my skin suffered, I felt puffy and I couldn't make a fist in the morning.

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487 · October 14, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Removing sugar and most starches from your diet reduces cravings resulting in feeling fuller. That's why it is simple to fast while eating a Paleo diet as you can go long times between meals before hunger strikes. So to answer your question; a calorie is NOT a calorie for the simple fact that your body can burn off sugar without much energy but protein and fat require more energy to digest. Since Paleo is mostly protein and fat your body's metbolism will be higher. A recent side by side study put Paleo at 300 calories a day higher in metabolism versus two other diets. So in other words, when eating Paleo diet you are burning an additional 300 calories a day.... That's equivalent to 30 minutes of cardio with no work involved!!

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Wow it speeds up your metabolism naturally, very cool! Thanks for some re-inspiration and sharing!

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723 · January 31, 2013 at 3:57 AM

Yes! Protein digestion actually uses 20-30% of the protein calories consumed. 10% of calories from carbs are used in digestion, and 2-3% of calories are used in fat digestion

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26182 · October 14, 2012 at 7:35 PM

The diet is not magic. You have to be at a caloric deficit to lose weight. But your logic is off -- Paleo is not about weight loss, it's about health. However, a healthy person is typically not obese. So by eating for health you will lean out (if you were heavy to begin with).

Every single clinical study has shown that the group which eats according to paleo principles eat fewer calories than the control group. This is without any prompting. The reason is that the paleo group is eating food that is more bio-available and satisfying. You can get the energy from what you eat and from your internal fat stores. You don't have to keep feeding yourself to overcome the sugar crashes.

You can eat fewer calories while eating according to a paleo template without sacrificing energy. This is not true for "regular food" -- If you ate a comparable caloric diet with "regular food" you would be at an energy deficit. To put it another way, X calories from paleo foods will provide you with more energy than X calories from "regular foods"

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2613 · October 15, 2012 at 12:34 PM

It's debatable that you HAVE to be at a caloric deficit to lose weight, especially if you're just trying to lose fat. Dietary stress (through metabolic derangement from SAD dieting) can cause your body to store a higher baseline level of adipose. Removing some of those stressors (e.g. gluten) can reduce that baseline even with a caloric surplus.

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Thanks CD! I wasn't trying to imply that Paleo is about weight loss, because I know there are other tremendous health benefits. But being weight loss was the reason I started it, I think your right, being Paleo you tend to naturally eat less, and have more energy. Thanks for some re-inspiration!

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26182 · October 15, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Elunah, the question was not about losing fat, it was about losing weight. A caloric deficit is needed, thermodynamics does not cease to exist for Paleo dieters. Also, it is not debatable that ingestion of calories is the first order effect. However, your point is accurate in that, you can vary the second-order effects (through diet, exercise, etc) and either (1) create a caloric deficit without changing the magnitude of ingest calories OR (2) create a change in how the body utilizes and stores the ingest calories.

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12677 · October 15, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Yeah, you don't have to be in a calorie deficit to lose weight–what if you're overeating calories but you cut your arm off? Kidding of course =D, good answer CD.

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26182 · October 15, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Ah, Mscott, you got me. I forgot about lipo-surgery and amputation. You win!

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9402 · October 14, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Aside from all the non weight loss benefits of paleo that may apply to you (healthier digestion, less auto-immunue disease, better vitamin/mineral intake, etc), i think there also can be a clear weight loss benefit, but I look at it from a different perspective. Yes, you can lose weight on any diet as long as you restrict calories. That is a fact. However, why should humans have to count calories to maintain a healthy body comp? Shouldn't that happen naturally, at least in most normal, healthy individuals? I think, yes. However, I think much of the SAD diet involves foods engineered to have specific tastes, textures, etc that humans would not have been exposed to through much of our evolution. I think these foods throw off our own internal regulatory mechanisms, forcing us to count calories to maintain the right equilibrium. I think by avoiding refined grain and refined sugar, you avoid much of the engineered food problem. I think for many, the paleo eat to satiety approach ends up being easier to maintain long term than the count calories approach.

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:06 PM

great comment thanks so much!

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 8:00 AM

This is so true! I did the calorie count thing a few times but after about a week i would get lazy and tired of doing it!

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1297 · October 14, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Here's the thing, Amber. The way you express yourself and the other questions you've asked rather suggests you don't believe in paleo. You just don't get it.

I would suggest you go and buy yourself a paleo book, a recent thread here showed which people liked which book best. Whichever one it is, read and read it again, until you understand it. Then read it again.

If after you understand it, you still don't believe then go and try something else.

Hundreds of people here are telling you it works, but you still don't get it. In fact you are sabotaging your attempts to not get it. Why is that? Have you been so indoctrinated by the SAD ways that you just can't believe there's another way or do you believe you have to suffer to be healthy? Who are you punishing?

It really isn't at all difficult. Cut out the processed food, eliminate bread, pasta, flour and potatoes, eat meat, seafood & fish, choose whether or not you can tolerate dairy, eat lots of non-starchy vegetables and don't eat dodgy oils.

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Thanks David I'll try to do that! Maybe your right, I just went Paleo in order to lose weight, but then I questioned if it was the necessary way to achieve that weight loss and started question some things. NO DENYING that besides weight loss Paleo is fantastic on the entire spectrum of health, but I was just referring to weight loss.

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 8:06 AM

I wouldnt go back to a SAD. Even after 1 cheat day i feel ill. Maybe it's easier to stay motivated to eat paleo if you are more sensitive to grains, sugars and (some) dairy, and just feel better in your gut and brain when you eat paleo?

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Thanks David I'll try to do that! Maybe your right, I just went Paleo in order to lose weight, but then I started to question if it was the necessary way to achieve that weight loss. NO DENYING that besides weight loss Paleo is fantastic on the entire spectrum of health, but I was just referring to weight loss.

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105 · October 14, 2012 at 7:48 PM

I can eat 2000 calories a day or 1100 calories, or anything in between on Paleo, and not have fluctuations in energy or have stomach issues/joint issues or gain weight like I would if I were eating lots of grains and sugars. This way of eating has been amazing for me. If I work out harder and feel hungry I eat more. I can also skip a meal without feeling deprived. Can you do that on a grain and sugar diet? I can't.

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM

thanks for sharing! good point.

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With Paleo you're not hungry like you would be if you did a regular non paleo calorie deficit eating plan. Keeping your insulin levels down also prevents those nasty spikes which cause carb cravings in the afternoons and evenings. Plus the food your eating paleo is just better for your and your body and not filled with all that crap that are in "diet" foods.

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748 · October 14, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Totally agree, but TECHNICALLY if paleo is just to keep hunger at bay, if one only eats 1-2 times a day and doesn't mind being a little hungry, couldn't they safely eat non paleo foods (like a burrito) without negative effect on weight loss as long as one's not eating more calories than they expend? :/ Again, I thought weight loss was due to lowering insulin levels, but I know plenty of people who lose weight just be being in calorie deficient, paleo or not. Maybe Paleo is just for those of us who struggle with portion control (me) but maybe I could learn to control it and lose weight still?

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50 · October 15, 2012 at 7:46 AM

I think your doubts are born of information overload. I think i was in a similar position to you in the past. There is too much competing information available know which causes confusion.

My advice would be pick a diet plan/ nutritional strategy and stick to it completely for at least 4-6 weeks. You don't have to fully understand the diet to follow it. Just do it!

Any restriction of calories can yield a short term weight loss, however your body will recover the fat quickly when the restriction is removed.

Paleo will fill you with nutrient dense satisfying foods. Your body will let you know when you are full, and you shouldn't need to eat calories. The high quality proteins will create a hormonal response which tells the brain you are full. The relatively high water and fiber content of the foods will stretch the stomach and make you feel physically full.

The food that we eat should: Promote a healthy psychological response. Promote a healthy hormonal response. Support a healthy gut. Support immune function and minimize inflammation.

Hartwig, Melissa; Hartwig, Dallas (2012-06-19). It Starts With Food: Discover the Whole30 and Change Your Life in Unexpected Ways (Kindle Locations 351-352). Victory Belt Publishing. Kindle Edition.

Obesity is a symptom of a hormonal imbalance, your body has effectively lost the ability to regulate energy storage. By improving the food we eat we will recover the ability to regulate fat storage optimally.

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748 · October 16, 2012 at 5:10 AM

thanks for this great comment! I'm going to take your advice on the 4-6 week diet

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896 · October 14, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Diarrhea. When I stray I get explosive diarrhea. No joke.

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Gas! Lots of bloating. And acne. And tired. Or i catch a cold. Have anxiety attacks. Yeah, lots reasons for me not to stray too far.

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Oh plus paleo made my hypoglycemia go away :)

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143 · October 16, 2012 at 8:17 AM

That said, im sure we've all done our fair share of "cheating". Maybe the OP just needs to stray away, see how she feels, see if paleo did anything for her? If she feels gross and gains weight, she might change her mind. Unless she hasnt been paleo long enough to see full benefits.

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385 · October 15, 2012 at 2:36 PM

me too!!! lol!!

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716 · October 14, 2012 at 5:23 PM

This is a really complicated topic and giving a clear answer would be rather hard. In the end weight loss or gain is mostly dependent on genetics and amount of calories that actually end up available to be utilized as energy in your body, which depends on the type of foods, their macro make up, amount of fiber, combination of different foods at same meal, and so on. Sugars are pretty much the easiest thing to digest, they go straight into the blood. Protein on the other hand requires you to actually spend quite some energy just to digest it. So even if the meals you consume have the same caloric value, this doesn't mean your body gets that same caloric value out of them.

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716 · October 14, 2012 at 7:31 PM

I have many friends who eat absolutely anything and everything, don't exercise, yet are muscular and at below 10% body fat. How else do we explain that but good genes?

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20908 · October 14, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Came here to say mostly this. I discount genetics. We're much more the same than we are different. People often pull out the genetics card too much when things don't work for them. Everything else is spot on, though.

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716 · October 14, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Or another example, centenarians. It's not like they typically live much different from other people, yet they live above 100.

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78422 · October 18, 2012 at 6:23 PM

I don't think it is at all bogus for weightloss. I went Paleo about 6 months ago, within 2 months I lost 14 lbs and have have remained at 145 lbs since. I do have to admit that everyday I eat a paleofied dessert and more fruit than veggies. So, if I were to reduce those I would lose even more weight. I also do not excercise...like at all. My skin and hair are awesome now and I no longer experienec Crohn's disease symptoms. I love the Paleo lifestyle and never plan on going back!

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748 · October 19, 2012 at 1:44 AM

love this comment. thanks so much for the inspiration!

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365 · October 14, 2012 at 5:19 PM

If I may... take a 2 Week Challenge if you're up for it. Go off Paleo for 2 weeks, eating whatever you desire. After two weeks of going back to eating everything that we shouldn't you're body and mind should tell you whether it feels right or not.

And also, when it comes to weight loss, you should re-adjust your intake roughly every 5 - 10 lbs lost, while you'll still lose weight, it will be at a slower pace than usual which can in turn cause a lot of people to lose their motivation.

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4632 · October 14, 2012 at 5:36 PM

I think this might be a good thing to try out. I remember breaking paleo for about 2-3 weeks once, I had some of my old favorite treats (cookies, muffins, etc), still within calorie range, but about 3-4 days in, my joints started feeling stiff and inflamed in the mornings, especially those in my hands, and I then I remembered having that feeling a lot before, but I forgot about it when it went away when I cut out gluten specifically. I didn't gain weight, but my skin suffered, I felt puffy and I couldn't make a fist in the morning.

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10 · October 16, 2012 at 7:02 AM

stop worrying about calories

stop worrying about counting

stop thinking of paleo as a diet

stop comparing it to any other "diet"

look at the food in your hand. could your ancestor from 50,000 years ago have had this food - or something like it - in his/her hand to consume while living in nature? don't consider your ancestor an idiot cavepperson. they were intelligent just like you. they knew nature and everything in it. use your brain and common sense. big macs, coke, and snickers are definitely out.

could my ancestor have eaten this? yes? then eat it - eat enough to satisfy, period. don't eat just one food or one food type - paleo people had a huge variety of plants and animals and insects to choose from.

do not eat ANYTHING that they could not have plausibly eaten - and that includes probably 80% of all so-called food available in stores today. (dairy is a wildcard - eat it if you can tolerate but eat high fat, aged cheese best, fermented if you can, and avoid pasteurized if you can - some of our ancestors may have had it in their diet, some not) do not eat food with preservatives, additives, colorants, MSG or surrogates, anything not probably available in the natural environment. to do this you must learn what those additives are. i find it best to not purchase/eat anything that has ANY additives unless i know exactly what they are. that means virtually no processed foods. don't worry, it is really not that difficult.

when you eat things like grains, you are eating net-negative foods - food that takes more from your body then it give - and what if gives is not particularly beneficial to you especially in large amounts.

if Rob Wolfs book did not do it for you - then read Dr Eades "Protein Power" (lousy title, good book)

try to wrap your head around the CONCEPT of ancestral eating and the rest will fall in line - including your body weight, composition and good health.

Ravi

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25 · October 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

I think your question was something lots of people think about, I know I have. I lost 30lbs about 2 years ago on paleo and crossfit and running combined, but I was strict and I was counting calories, getting 8 hours sleep, taking cold showers, eating every 4 hours and not after 7pm, basically everything every paleo person recommeded. On paleo and crossfit alone without counting or running I stayed within the same 5 pounds. If I take time off of paleo and crossfit and eat like a little piggy, I gain 5 lbs, I can hang on to that for about a month-than go back to counting.

Anyway....what I'm trying to say is, for me to lose weight on paleo or weight watchers (which I lost about the same amount of weight on 10 years ago)you have to concentrate and eat super duper clean, with counting and weightlifting, intervel's then some basic arobics for extra credit. No cheat days, no nuts or dried fruits, no uncounted coconut oil and no drinking alcohol. This all sucks because I love to eat and drink everything! Whatever, I know I have to do it if I really want to lose. Its a lot of work!

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thanks Jenn! good to know I'm not the only one that wonders. counting plays a role until we are in tune with our true hunger I guess :/

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244 · April 24, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Check this out; it's a free full text. this paper brought together a lot of the concepts I've read about, and does a great job of answering some of your questions.

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28 · April 24, 2013 at 7:43 PM

I started Paleo about 6 mos ago; was a ten-year vegan. Now 39, 5'7", about 160 lbs. I was very fit while vegan, rarely went 5 or 10 lbs over/under optimum weight. Practiced IF (skipped breakfast, sometimes lunch), lifted heavy 3 times/wk, did Crossfittish stuff, excellent medical markers, etc. Ate usually black beans, brown rice, lots of EVOO, no fast food except Freebirds-type of stuff. Starting Paleo, lost about 7 lbs quick, looked nice and lean, but have since put back on about 10 lbs (maybe some muscle but not nearly as lean now). Also now have chronic constipation. I've already read Primal Blueprint, Why We Get Fat, the Daily Apple and Paleo Hacks every day, etc, so I'm well-read. I'm going to stick with it longer, but frankly I felt better, and enjoyed the food more, on clean vegan diet.

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Hi Nathan. I also have had chronic constipation after 20 years of veganism and the last 8 being low fat raw vegan (80/10/10). My energy has also dipped and my joints are becoming inflamed since changing my diet but I do feel a little calmer and my insatiable hunger has now gone. I haven't added meat back in but am eating fish and eggs. Like you I'm going to stick with it a little longer and hope things resolve themselves in time. Peace x

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28 · May 09, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Checking back in. My constipation has now been all but eliminated by drinking Natural Calm each night and having a comforatable movement in the morning. I also started incorporating the Carb Addicts Diet, with paleo foods, and have finally been able to loosen my belt again after only a week.

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