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No-Poo but still having problems with grease/dandruff?

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Created June 08, 2011 at 5:09 PM

Okay so I've been No-Poo for probably 6 months now. A salon washed it once (now I cut my own hair, they wouldn't not wash it) and I've dyed it once. I don't get the CRAZY itchy head I used to, and my dandruff has gone down, but I still do get itchy head and I still do get dandruff, specifically around my hairline on my forehead, so it shows up a lot. I also have like...a big clump of greasy hair on the back of my head, but my roots and ends feel fine.

I've tried baking soda which helps a little, but it isn't really breaking up that grease.

Do I need to be combing more? Should I be coming the soda through my hair while I shower?

I'm getting dreadlocks at the end of this month, but I really don't want to be trying to deal with a ton of dandruff with those, it was super annoying last time!

Thank you guys!

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836 · July 17, 2012 at 12:20 AM

People followed Mercola's directions and literally burnt their scalps in that case. Read the comments for that article.

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294 · March 19, 2012 at 12:28 PM

do you use it pure or diluted in water?

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294 · March 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM

do you use it pure or diluted in water?

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1303 · June 10, 2011 at 6:25 AM

I don't actually measure it- I keep it in a condiment bottle in the shower, but I'd guess about 1/3 vinegar to 2/3 water? Sometimes I use the whey drained from yogurt instead, and that I use straight. It gives me lovely, soft hair for a few days, but my hair gets greasier much faster with whey than with vinegar.

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422 · June 09, 2011 at 10:52 PM

What's your vinegar/water ratio? I've got a baking soda/water one figured out, but I haven't done the vinegar yet c:

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422 · June 09, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Any shampoo causes me an intense ammount of scalp pain, which I thought was just NORMAL, but I think I have some sort of allergy to the common ingredients. I might try figuring out something with Tea Tree oil though, since that never messed with me c:

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6157 · June 08, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Probably some dirty unwashed hippie "alternative medicine"-loving rogue editor added that. I could see some plausibility for the claim and the mechanism, but I doubt there's solid evidence.

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6235 · June 08, 2011 at 5:57 PM

@Jae Interesting, the primary suspected cause is overgrowth of a normal skin dwelling yeast. I wish there was a cite for the "rub mud on your head" suggestion...

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6157 · June 08, 2011 at 5:41 PM

"Dandruff is usually due to dryness" -- this is probably incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandruff

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6235 · June 08, 2011 at 5:32 PM

You might wanna look in to indigo is you want black, it is a little more fragile than henna, but it works. I towel mostly to move the oils around but also because if I don't my hair stays wet forever! French clay is in the bulk herbs at my local co-op, just be sure to let it sit and don't try to mix it, which is super hard!

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422 · June 08, 2011 at 5:24 PM

I also have been letting my hair airdry. Should I do more aggressive towelling? I'm debating on giving up the black hair and just doing henna after I get dreds, if its part of the problem. But I think it'll be easier to keep the dye off my scalp when i'm going dread by dread, instead of mashing all the dye around to ensure even coverage X3 I'll see if I can't find some french clay.

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16131 · June 08, 2011 at 7:25 PM

I know the "No Poo" thing is totally Paleo, but I couldn't make it work.

I have periodic scalp buildup the results in flaking, itching and redness. The key for me is exfoliation (chemical, not using a harsh scrubbing agent). I do that with salicylic acid Poos or using a salicylic acne gel on my scalp (it's the skin you're treating not the hair).

You could opt for some natural sources of salicylic acid like Willow Bark Extract.

I agree that hair really doesn't need Pooing, but scalp skin is another story.

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418 · June 08, 2011 at 5:52 PM

I would make a rinse with a coupla tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in a pint of water.After the rinse I would use either tea tree or coconut oil on the affected areas. Brushing won't be an option after you locks up. I've been dread for 20 years and I rinse/run water through them everyday.

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21405 · March 19, 2012 at 12:15 PM

I had the same when I went the "no poo" route, but after using Apple Cider vinegar (and keeping a comb in the shower to brush it through), it went away.

I also get pretty bad dandruff under my beard, and the apple cider vinegar cured that as well.

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294 · March 19, 2012 at 12:28 PM

do you use it pure or diluted in water?

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294 · March 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM

do you use it pure or diluted in water?

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3631 · June 08, 2011 at 11:43 PM

There's nothing to be lost by giving it a good wash with soap or shampoo every once in a while, if it's getting out of control. Greasy build-up definitely fosters yeasts and god knows what else. I get the no-poo idea, but if it's getting to the point of being greasy and itchy? It probably smells too.. I'd wash at that point...

I know from personal experience that ACV, or even regular vinegar, as some others suggested, def has helped keep my scalp healthy. But also, perhaps more importantly, pay attention to how your diet may be affecting it. I personally get itchy-scalp breakout within an hour or so of eating/drinking something that contains sugar (more than a few grams, i mean). Flaky-head is pretty much history for me now.

[Also, eating fermented foods messes with my scalp, but that one might just be me.]

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6235 · June 08, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Dandruff is usually due to dryness so try just a touch of oil around your hairline where it flakes.

And brushing is important, it is how you move the oils down your hair, but it doesn't help when your hair is wet as much as towels do.

When my hair gets really yucky I tend to use either henna, which might not be great for you since you dye, or french clay which can really suck up a lot of oil.

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6157 · June 08, 2011 at 5:41 PM

"Dandruff is usually due to dryness" -- this is probably incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandruff

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6157 · June 08, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Probably some dirty unwashed hippie "alternative medicine"-loving rogue editor added that. I could see some plausibility for the claim and the mechanism, but I doubt there's solid evidence.

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6235 · June 08, 2011 at 5:57 PM

@Jae Interesting, the primary suspected cause is overgrowth of a normal skin dwelling yeast. I wish there was a cite for the "rub mud on your head" suggestion...

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6235 · June 08, 2011 at 5:32 PM

You might wanna look in to indigo is you want black, it is a little more fragile than henna, but it works. I towel mostly to move the oils around but also because if I don't my hair stays wet forever! French clay is in the bulk herbs at my local co-op, just be sure to let it sit and don't try to mix it, which is super hard!

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422 · June 08, 2011 at 5:24 PM

I also have been letting my hair airdry. Should I do more aggressive towelling? I'm debating on giving up the black hair and just doing henna after I get dreds, if its part of the problem. But I think it'll be easier to keep the dye off my scalp when i'm going dread by dread, instead of mashing all the dye around to ensure even coverage X3 I'll see if I can't find some french clay.

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858 · June 08, 2011 at 6:26 PM

I have found that a monthly apple cider vinegar rinse takes care of most of my oily issues - I have very dry, fine, curly hair. I let my stylist shampoo my hair, as I only need a cut two or three times a year, and I won't use baking soda because it makes my hair feel like straw. That shampoo and the monthly rinses seem to be keeping my hair in good shape, as well as my scalp. Now that the humidity has risen it will be interesting to see how my hair will react, as I have only been no-poo since Christmas.

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1303 · June 08, 2011 at 6:23 PM

I have the same problem. When I get that matted, oily feel on the back of my head, I just scrub with a baking soda/water mix and "condition" with a white vinegar/water mix. White vinegar does a better job for me than ACV, but I know other people have the opposite experience. This really reduces the dandruff for a day or two, but then it comes back. Coconut oil helps a lot of people with dandruff (it's moisturizing AND anti-fungal), but it also only lasts a day or two for me, and is a pain to wash out if you don't use shampoo.

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422 · June 09, 2011 at 10:52 PM

What's your vinegar/water ratio? I've got a baking soda/water one figured out, but I haven't done the vinegar yet c:

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1303 · June 10, 2011 at 6:25 AM

I don't actually measure it- I keep it in a condiment bottle in the shower, but I'd guess about 1/3 vinegar to 2/3 water? Sometimes I use the whey drained from yogurt instead, and that I use straight. It gives me lovely, soft hair for a few days, but my hair gets greasier much faster with whey than with vinegar.

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0 · March 28, 2013 at 6:40 AM

Sounds like your scalp would benefit from the healing properties of aloe. It actually contains enzymes that lift scale from your scalp and heal it at the same time. I've successfully used this Aloe Honey "Shampoo" for a year (as needed) and I've been itch and flake free ever since.

No More Itchy Head Aloe Honey "Shampoo" Recipe

Ingredients

  • 1/4 c of homemade aloe gel or store bought like Forever Aloe Vera Gel
  • 2 TBS Honey

Directions

  1. Combine all in your mini-food processor or blender. Make as smooth as possible. You don’t want any aloe chunks left in your hair.
  2. Take straight to the shower and shampoo. Leave on for a few minutes (the longer the better) than rinse out completely with water. That’s it.

Get all the details on why aloe and honey are good for your scalp by reading the original Aloe Honey "Shampoo" recipe (above) and explains all the "whys" of how it works.

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0 · March 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM

While you are in the shower with the baking soda or vinegar, comb your scalp gently to get the dead skin and buildup off. I have really thick curly hair so this step helps,

The vinegar helps stop the itching and smooths the hair. Ditching shampoos has been a great idea since I have had dry scalp and flake problems for years.

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626 · June 09, 2011 at 7:01 PM

I do remember reading on Mercola.com many years ago that dandruff can be caused by a fungal infection in the scalp. His thoughts as an MD were that the best way to treat it is to get any type of dandruff shampoo, rub quite a bit of it deep into the scalp, and put a shower cap over your head, leaving it on all night. Rinse it all out in the morning and condition as needed. He said that the previous procedure was a well known "cure" but the issue is that if your scalp's pH is acidic, you'll be prone to contracting the dandruff again in the future so you should try to alkalinize your body and skin to help prevent it.

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422 · June 09, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Any shampoo causes me an intense ammount of scalp pain, which I thought was just NORMAL, but I think I have some sort of allergy to the common ingredients. I might try figuring out something with Tea Tree oil though, since that never messed with me c:

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836 · July 17, 2012 at 12:20 AM

People followed Mercola's directions and literally burnt their scalps in that case. Read the comments for that article.

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OK GUYS I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH DANDRUFF FOR 6 YEARS! I KNOW WHAT CAUSES IT. IT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EXTERNAL PART OF OUR BODY, ITS INTERNAL!

NOW LISTEN AND DO THIS;

TAKE HCL SUPPLEMENT

TAKE THIS WITH EVERY MEAL NO MATTER WHAT AND DO NOT SKIP

IN THE MEANTIME JUST USE APPLE CIDER VINEGAR ON YOUR HEAD - DILUTE IT AND PUT IT ON YOUR HEAD BEFORE SHOWERING - 20 MINS LATER, SHOWER AND SHAMPOO WITH AN ALL NATURAL SHAMPOO (NO SLS)

THIS WILL WORK GUYS, ITS THAT SIMPLE

BELOW ARE LINKS THAT YOU WILL FIND INTERESTING; http://barbfeick.com/healthinformation/hcl_deficiency.htm http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig5.php http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C42513.html

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