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Anyone else drinking bulletproof coffee? pro's con's?

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Created December 20, 2011 at 4:04 PM

I have been experimenting with IF ala leangains and came across the a recipe for bulletproof coffee which is really good coffee mixed with grass-fed butter and a bit of MCT oil.

I have tried it for about 2 weeks now looking for a intermittent fasting option that works as I am having problems with hunger at around 11am. I get up around 5:30 usually. My Grandfather used to drink butter in his tea and I know it is used in many drinks for various reasons.

Pro's: I feel great after drinking it. It seems to control my appetite well and of course I get all the good coffee feelings as well.

Con's: I have been drinking it for a couple of weeks but, I concerned that unless I am flawless on my diet it is a gateway to gaining weight which I have been lately(admittedly that is due to me falling off the wagon for the holiday). I am new to IF and am not 100% compliant.

Anyone else tried this: Thoughts, successes, failures?

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2417 · February 16, 2012 at 3:23 AM

I've wondered the same thing. Butter is just heavy cream minus the buttermilk/liquid. Probably less protein in butter. ?

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25467 · February 04, 2012 at 3:26 PM

plus one!!!!!!!

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10245 · December 21, 2011 at 3:26 AM

Other Ingredients: Citric Acid, Sucralose, Artificial Flavors, Soy Lecithin (As An Emulsifier), Acesulfame Potassium (Ace-K), FD&C Blue Lake #1, FD&C Yellow #5. Contains Soy Products (Soy Lecithin, As An Emulsifier)------would the capsule form be less contaminated?

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10245 · December 21, 2011 at 3:25 AM

Other Ingredients: Citric Acid, Sucralose, Artificial Flavors, Soy Lecithin (As An Emulsifier), Acesulfame Potassium (Ace-K), FD&C Blue Lake #1, FD&C Yellow #5. Contains Soy Products (Soy Lecithin, As An Emulsifier)......wouldn't a capsule be less contaminated?

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25467 · December 21, 2011 at 2:06 AM

add some MCT oil to it too!!!!

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549 · December 20, 2011 at 8:53 PM

I've had my a.m. coffee with a tablespoon of coconut oil added for a few days now. I love the richness and the fact that my lips gets moisturized:)

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5332 · December 20, 2011 at 7:35 PM

That's relative. There's a huge advantage to losing fat if you're not able to find food, you'd be pretty stuck otherwise. If you're functioning properly, the body should be fairly ambivalent about whether it's storing or releasing bodyfat at any particular given moment. It's certainly a very strong and unsubstantiated statement to say IF goes against nature.

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5332 · December 20, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Sounds interesting, though I imagine I can probably make up an additional 10-20g of muscle degradation when I eat.

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25467 · December 20, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Interesting. I just found out about bulletproof coffee during a podcast I did two weeks ago. I use something called optimal coffee when I miss meals due to surgical schedule.

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8239 · December 20, 2011 at 5:43 PM

I hear in your comment a willingness to be patient and see what emerges. It seems 12 weeks is a standard first phase for IF. The body-mind has plenty of good reasons (in evolutionary terms) to hold onto fat. The IF approach "goes against Nature" in that regard. Which is to say: "losing fat" didn't have much survival value, in hunter-gatherer times. Even today, getting to low body fat doesn't confer health advantages beyond a certain point. Looking lean and feeling good about it is the larger point for many people. "Nature" has no "interest" in helping us do that, figuratively speaking.

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8239 · December 20, 2011 at 5:05 PM

10-20g. Company called Scivation makes what I consider the best BCAA powder on the market: a product called "Xtend Intraworkout catalyst." Sugar and carb free. Promotes intensity during workouts, and other similar metabolic benefits. My fave flavor: Watermelon Madness.

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5332 · December 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM

How much BCAA do you take in?

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19220 · December 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM

MCTs are usually just the medium chain fats purified out of coconut oil. These are usually capric acid and lauric acid.

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19220 · December 20, 2011 at 4:49 PM

MCT oil is usually just the shorter chain fats purified out of the coconut oil.

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540 · December 20, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Martin from lean gains would definitely slap me in the mouth for putting butter in my coffee during the fast or perhaps at anytime. I only use mct oil as it doesn't alter the taste as much.

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540 · December 20, 2011 at 4:45 PM

I am going to have to play with it a bit for sure. I think I am going to reserve drinking butter in my coffee for times when I am fatigued or really really hungry.

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5332 · December 20, 2011 at 4:38 PM

I don't know that I'd expect fat on its own to stimulate hunger.

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19220 · December 20, 2011 at 4:33 PM

All I can say is ewww.

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120 · February 04, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Well I am a believer. I have been eating primal for 2 months. I was losing a steady 2 pounds per week for six weeks. During that time, I was drinking black coffee with breakfast and consuming about 2000cal per day. I switched to bulletproof coffee for breakfast only and then did not eat until 2:00pm. I am eating same 2000cal per day meals, but in a condensed 6 hour window, not eating anything after 8pm. My weight/fat loss has bumped up to 3 lbs per week. I think it is the coconut/MCT oil that is bumping up my ketones. I am never hungry during the morning and I am very alert.

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25467 · February 04, 2012 at 3:26 PM

plus one!!!!!!!

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540 · December 20, 2011 at 4:55 PM

After reading other questions and really thinking about it I think I would rather save the bulletproof coffee for times of fatigue or as a fatbomb if needed. I appreciate the insight and the other answers from other discussions that came from bulletproof coffee. I think it's dangerous to make anything a part of your routine until you see how it will effect you. I truly believe that I need to understand and get the timing right with my attempt to IF first before trying anything else.

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5332 · December 20, 2011 at 7:35 PM

That's relative. There's a huge advantage to losing fat if you're not able to find food, you'd be pretty stuck otherwise. If you're functioning properly, the body should be fairly ambivalent about whether it's storing or releasing bodyfat at any particular given moment. It's certainly a very strong and unsubstantiated statement to say IF goes against nature.

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8239 · December 20, 2011 at 5:43 PM

I hear in your comment a willingness to be patient and see what emerges. It seems 12 weeks is a standard first phase for IF. The body-mind has plenty of good reasons (in evolutionary terms) to hold onto fat. The IF approach "goes against Nature" in that regard. Which is to say: "losing fat" didn't have much survival value, in hunter-gatherer times. Even today, getting to low body fat doesn't confer health advantages beyond a certain point. Looking lean and feeling good about it is the larger point for many people. "Nature" has no "interest" in helping us do that, figuratively speaking.

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8239 · December 20, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Fats (coconut oil, for example) can be added to coffee, or taken directly, as a means of taking the edge off hunger during IF fasting window. However, if that's the course you take, realize you will be thus leaving the fasting state, in that your body will use the added fat for energy, as opposed to continuing burning stored body fat during the fasting window. It is my understanding that practically any calories added during the fasting window, interrupts the fast to that extent.

I practice IF of the "skip breakfast" variety. Meaning my fasting window is 9:00PM today to 1:00 PM tomorrow. I often start sipping BCAA solution around 11:00 AM. Handles hunger and energy, helps avoid catabolic state. In short, I keep burning fat, protect lean tissue, and feel focused and strong.

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10245 · December 21, 2011 at 3:26 AM

Other Ingredients: Citric Acid, Sucralose, Artificial Flavors, Soy Lecithin (As An Emulsifier), Acesulfame Potassium (Ace-K), FD&C Blue Lake #1, FD&C Yellow #5. Contains Soy Products (Soy Lecithin, As An Emulsifier)------would the capsule form be less contaminated?

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10245 · December 21, 2011 at 3:25 AM

Other Ingredients: Citric Acid, Sucralose, Artificial Flavors, Soy Lecithin (As An Emulsifier), Acesulfame Potassium (Ace-K), FD&C Blue Lake #1, FD&C Yellow #5. Contains Soy Products (Soy Lecithin, As An Emulsifier)......wouldn't a capsule be less contaminated?

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5332 · December 20, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Sounds interesting, though I imagine I can probably make up an additional 10-20g of muscle degradation when I eat.

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8239 · December 20, 2011 at 5:05 PM

10-20g. Company called Scivation makes what I consider the best BCAA powder on the market: a product called "Xtend Intraworkout catalyst." Sugar and carb free. Promotes intensity during workouts, and other similar metabolic benefits. My fave flavor: Watermelon Madness.

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5332 · December 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM

How much BCAA do you take in?

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37177 · December 20, 2011 at 4:34 PM

What in heck is MCT oil anyhow? I searched PH and there was no real-world definition. I went to Amazon and they just explained the medium-chain-triglyceride thing with--again--no real-world definition. I then searched "leangains bulletproof coffee" and didn't find anything definitive.

So, do you mean coconut oil or something out of a lab that doesn't exist in nature or what? I'm curious because I currently use heavy cream in my coffee and I want to be open-minded about other options.

By the way, despite the heavy cream and a very little taste of honey in my coffee I seem to stay in a fasted state until mid-day, judging by no sense of emptiness or hunger. That may be because I'm still overweight and need more calories than the coffee provides to ignite my eating cycle. Anyhow, it's hours after I finish the mug or two that my body asks to be fed and even then it doesn't happen unless I'm at home and idle.

I think you'll have to ultimately judge what you can/should do in your fasted state by how your individual body reacts to your current or other coffee versions.

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19220 · December 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM

MCTs are usually just the medium chain fats purified out of coconut oil. These are usually capric acid and lauric acid.

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19220 · December 20, 2011 at 4:49 PM

MCT oil is usually just the shorter chain fats purified out of the coconut oil.

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540 · December 20, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Martin from lean gains would definitely slap me in the mouth for putting butter in my coffee during the fast or perhaps at anytime. I only use mct oil as it doesn't alter the taste as much.

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5332 · December 20, 2011 at 4:38 PM

I don't know that I'd expect fat on its own to stimulate hunger.

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2954 · February 16, 2012 at 3:55 AM

I think I will start making this coffee. I eat 2 meals per day and I'm completely stuffed, yet I never get past 600-800 calories. So I try to add calories whenever possible. This coffee looks like it might do the tick.

Lately I have been complaining that my coffee tastes too watery anyway, no matter how much heavy cream I add. I was pondering making my coffee with just cream. But this coffee sounds even better =)

I probably would not drink it every day. Perhaps every 3 days. I do not think it should be a meal replacement, unless it's all you can afford.

gaining weight which I have been lately(admittedly that is due to me falling off the wagon for the holiday)

Psssh!, it's nearly March already! Get those shoes on and go for a run, right now! ;-D

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5332 · December 20, 2011 at 4:15 PM

I don't think any plan that requires perfect compliance or relies on consuming the same thing every day is ultimately sustainable, so I'd be wary of building a habit based on this alone (which I guess is why you're here!)

You may want to look at the rest of what you're eating, and keep it in the back pocket on occasions when you feel you could use a little more fuel. Ultimately though, I suspect you might be best served by experimenting with a longer fasting period if you haven't already - not because it's necessarily better but as an experience it may make it easier to ignore 'hunger' after 16 hours of not eating and help you work out a better approach/timing. If I eat in the evening then I'm much more likely to have a lull in the morning as you describe, but if I stop eating around the middle of the day, that lull happens while I'm asleep and when I wake up I'm through it and pretty much good to go however long without worry.

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540 · December 20, 2011 at 4:45 PM

I am going to have to play with it a bit for sure. I think I am going to reserve drinking butter in my coffee for times when I am fatigued or really really hungry.

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This is my second day on bulletproof coffee, I have massive cramps and some others issues...

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552 · February 16, 2012 at 12:37 AM

Remember, folks also use Ghee instead of butter. For those have stomach problems with butter, try using Ghee (clarified butter). Also, some put some 90% Dark Chocolate or cocoa powder (no sugar added) in their BPC or Cinnamon in their coffee grounds (added flavor). I plan to start a round (see how it goes for week/7 days or so) of BPC each AM using Ghee, Coconut Oil and good brand coffee and see how it goes.

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0 · February 15, 2012 at 7:30 PM

I drink it as often as I can. I have a little trouble stomaching the butter though. I usually drink my coffee with grass-fed heavy cream anyway, so I think I might just try that instead of the butter and see if it is easier for me to drink. Does anyone know if there is truly a big enough difference between the two (heavy cream/ butter) to really matter.

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2417 · February 16, 2012 at 3:23 AM

I've wondered the same thing. Butter is just heavy cream minus the buttermilk/liquid. Probably less protein in butter. ?

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