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Should I give my kid fluoride?

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My daughter is 3 and her doctor prescribed her fluoride since our water isn't fluoridated. I've heard bad things about it, but I can't remember what any of it is. Keeping in mind that her diet is not 100% Paleo, and that I'm terrible about brushing her teeth (she already has some decay, but not cavities or rot yet) should I give her fluoride?

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6229 · September 07, 2013 at 1:28 AM

The adult daily fluoride intake reached 12 mg, of which 99% originated from the brick tea-containing foods. The positive rate of clinical symptoms by physical examination was 89%; furthermore, 42 of the 111 subjects were diagnosed by X-ray. The positive examination rate was 83%. Although the osteosclerosis-type skeletal fluorosis (overall increased bone matrix density) affected 74%, arthropathy and arthritis affected a significant number of the patients, resulting in functional disability. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691502002855

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17103 · April 02, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Brita filters cannot filter out fluoride. Reverse Osmosis filters can. If you want to avoid cavities, avoid modern carbs, be sure to get stuff like cod liver oil, Vitamin D, K2, magnesium. There's no clear evidence that fluoride helps teeth, there's plenty that it harms health and that it harms teeth and is a potent neurotoxin. Mercury fillings should be replaced as soon as possible, and detoxed out. If you're worried about poor kids, exposing them to IQ lowering neurotoxins is not a good way to show it. (No, wasn't me that downvoted you.)

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6229 · March 24, 2012 at 6:11 AM

Interesting counterpoint here http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691502002855 The adult daily fluoride intake reached 12 mg, of which 99% originated from the brick tea-containing foods. The positive rate of clinical symptoms by physical examination was 89%; furthermore, 42 of the 111 subjects were diagnosed by X-ray. The positive examination rate was 83%. Although the osteosclerosis-type skeletal fluorosis (overall increased bone matrix density) affected 74%, arthropathy and arthritis affected a significant number of the patients, resulting in functional disability.

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951 · August 19, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Not sure about the fluoride, but I can say that you really should be consistent with brushing her teeth. She is depending on you for that.

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5232 · August 15, 2011 at 4:39 PM

It helps prevent cavities but at the cost of your thyroid.

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2435 · July 16, 2011 at 11:40 PM

Thank you, Bree. I do know to watch out.

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12369 · July 15, 2011 at 2:39 PM

start a conversation with your doc about why they feel it's necessary - and what else you could do (diet - different toothpaste etc.) other than supplementing with fluoride

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12369 · July 15, 2011 at 2:38 PM

i would be mindful of websites like this - and really research the stuff they put on here - a lot of the 'alarming' studies and info that they post must be taken in context.

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385 · July 15, 2011 at 2:38 PM

The same thing happened to me too.

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11152 · July 15, 2011 at 11:37 AM

Yup, there's a reason why toothpastes and mouthrinses all say "Do Not Ingest". Flouride is meant to be used topically, not taken internally. My dentist "prescribed" me flouride--in a rinse, not a tablet.

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11152 · July 15, 2011 at 11:34 AM

There are plenty of sources which assert that flouride js great for teeth--it's only when ingested is when it becomes a problem. Every anti-flouride article I came across starts off with "too much flouride causing....", and then proceeds to talk about flouridated water, NOT mouthwash & toothpaste. Flouridation of the water is useless, on that I'll heartily agree, and is the culprit behind dental flourosis (spots). And it does not reinforce enamel as much as dentists and toothpaste companies like to claim. But it DOES repair everyday wear on the enamel. Drink filtered/bottled water instead.

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5796 · July 15, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Sara, Fluoride is a poison - read the label on every fluoride containing toothpaste. Second, there is no study that says ingesting fluoride prevents cavities. when you go to the dentist, they bathe your teeth in fluoride, not give you a cup to drink.

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25467 · July 15, 2011 at 2:21 AM

no.............

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2435 · July 15, 2011 at 2:19 AM

Thank you! This is more what I'm looking for!

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2435 · July 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM

She likes that, too.

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2435 · July 15, 2011 at 2:14 AM

I respect your answer, and would like to know Why.

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725 · July 15, 2011 at 1:20 AM

i'd like to see your source that flouride is great for teeth.. I thought it was a myth

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123 · July 15, 2011 at 12:13 AM
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2435 · July 16, 2011 at 11:40 PM

Thank you, Bree. I do know to watch out.

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12369 · July 15, 2011 at 2:38 PM

i would be mindful of websites like this - and really research the stuff they put on here - a lot of the 'alarming' studies and info that they post must be taken in context.

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2435 · July 15, 2011 at 2:19 AM

Thank you! This is more what I'm looking for!

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400 · July 15, 2011 at 12:23 AM

Prescribed? Regardless of anyone's opinion on whether it helps prevent cavities, there is absolutely no reason that fluoride should ever be ingested. If your doctor is suggesting your child ingest fluoride I would highly recommend finding a new doctor.

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5232 · August 15, 2011 at 4:39 PM

It helps prevent cavities but at the cost of your thyroid.

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11152 · July 15, 2011 at 11:37 AM

Yup, there's a reason why toothpastes and mouthrinses all say "Do Not Ingest". Flouride is meant to be used topically, not taken internally. My dentist "prescribed" me flouride--in a rinse, not a tablet.

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5796 · July 15, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Sara, Fluoride is a poison - read the label on every fluoride containing toothpaste. Second, there is no study that says ingesting fluoride prevents cavities. when you go to the dentist, they bathe your teeth in fluoride, not give you a cup to drink.

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2435 · July 15, 2011 at 2:14 AM

I respect your answer, and would like to know Why.

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1317 · July 15, 2011 at 12:38 AM

I have permanent white stains on my teeth from being given fluoride tablets as a kid, which kills my mother with guilt. Avoid.

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385 · July 15, 2011 at 2:38 PM

The same thing happened to me too.

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39841 · August 15, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Give your kid a vitamin k-2 supplement instead so she mineralizes calcium instead of fluoride in her teeth.

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2640 · July 15, 2011 at 1:02 AM

Yuck. Keep her as far away from fluoride as you can. I really like Burt's Bees fluoride-free toothpaste personally.

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2435 · July 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM

She likes that, too.

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3499 · August 19, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Fluoride is not toxic in the amounts ingested from fluoridated water. In fact, it may be the only thing that keeps your kids from having really bad dental issues later in life. When I was 2 we moved to a municipality with fluoridated water from one without. My much older sis and bro were past the formative ages for teeth at the time (9 and 12 or so). We had the same practices in teeth brushing throughout, and used the same toothpaste. They all have a ton of fillings now. I have none.

Due to the naturally occurring fluoride in soil and the consumption of brick tea, which is rich in fluoride, the residents of Sichuan province in China have far higher fluoride consumption than almost anywhere in the US. They have the lowest rate of cavities in China and no known negative health issues from it.

That said, avoiding NADs from an early age is going to help immensely as well, as is getting adequate K2. But you only get one chance with your teeth. Use every tool available.

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6229 · September 07, 2013 at 1:28 AM

The adult daily fluoride intake reached 12 mg, of which 99% originated from the brick tea-containing foods. The positive rate of clinical symptoms by physical examination was 89%; furthermore, 42 of the 111 subjects were diagnosed by X-ray. The positive examination rate was 83%. Although the osteosclerosis-type skeletal fluorosis (overall increased bone matrix density) affected 74%, arthropathy and arthritis affected a significant number of the patients, resulting in functional disability. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691502002855

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6229 · March 24, 2012 at 6:11 AM

Interesting counterpoint here http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691502002855 The adult daily fluoride intake reached 12 mg, of which 99% originated from the brick tea-containing foods. The positive rate of clinical symptoms by physical examination was 89%; furthermore, 42 of the 111 subjects were diagnosed by X-ray. The positive examination rate was 83%. Although the osteosclerosis-type skeletal fluorosis (overall increased bone matrix density) affected 74%, arthropathy and arthritis affected a significant number of the patients, resulting in functional disability.

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11152 · July 15, 2011 at 1:01 AM

Flouride is great for teeth but was never meant to be taken internally. Should be in mouthwash or toothpaste only.

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11152 · July 15, 2011 at 11:34 AM

There are plenty of sources which assert that flouride js great for teeth--it's only when ingested is when it becomes a problem. Every anti-flouride article I came across starts off with "too much flouride causing....", and then proceeds to talk about flouridated water, NOT mouthwash & toothpaste. Flouridation of the water is useless, on that I'll heartily agree, and is the culprit behind dental flourosis (spots). And it does not reinforce enamel as much as dentists and toothpaste companies like to claim. But it DOES repair everyday wear on the enamel. Drink filtered/bottled water instead.

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725 · July 15, 2011 at 1:20 AM

i'd like to see your source that flouride is great for teeth.. I thought it was a myth

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8065 · April 02, 2013 at 3:29 AM

I grew up where there was no fluoridated water and I have a mouthful of cavities and mercury fillings to show for it. My kids also grew up without fluoridated water but we supplemented with fluoride tablets--not a cavity between them.

Every time we go to the pedi dentist he is seeing at least one kid pro-bono. Usually a kid with 8, 9, as many as ELEVEN cavities in baby teeth. This is a combo of poor diet/ education (Latino immigrants think nothing of giving babies soda and putting them to bed with bottles), poor dental hygiene, and lack of fluoride. These kids have to be put under general anesthesia in the outpatient surgery center to have teeth pulled. It's a huge problem in our county, exacerbated by the lack of dental care through Medi-Cal (Medicaid in other states). But lack of fluoride is definitely a contributing factor. We were fortunate and insured well enough to have good prenatal care (I supplemented fluoride during pregnancy) and good pediatric dental care for our kids.

There's a movement to try to fluoridate county water but much pushback from people who are blind to these kids because they can afford their plastic Brita filters or bottled water if they don't want fluoride.

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17103 · April 02, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Brita filters cannot filter out fluoride. Reverse Osmosis filters can. If you want to avoid cavities, avoid modern carbs, be sure to get stuff like cod liver oil, Vitamin D, K2, magnesium. There's no clear evidence that fluoride helps teeth, there's plenty that it harms health and that it harms teeth and is a potent neurotoxin. Mercury fillings should be replaced as soon as possible, and detoxed out. If you're worried about poor kids, exposing them to IQ lowering neurotoxins is not a good way to show it. (No, wasn't me that downvoted you.)

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2199 · April 02, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Run run run away from that doc. Unless your kid has hyperthyroidism etc.

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1418 · April 02, 2013 at 3:26 AM

Look up pictures on the internet of dental fluorosis and skeletal fluorosis and see how much ppm of fluoride one needs to ingest to develop these conditions. Let me tell you, it's not much.

If you haven't already, please read the book "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by Dr. Weston A. Price, or "How to Cure Tooth Decay" by Rami Nagel. Many have reversed tooth decay by following the steps outlined in these books. Vitamin K2 would be the best supplement. It will tell the body where to take the calcium which would be to the bones and teeth instead of soft tissue. One should also be eating liver regularly for vitamin A and D(fermented cod liver oil can be taken instead).

On a side note, intentionally fluoridated water is basically forced mass medication. It is unethical.

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88 · April 01, 2013 at 5:51 PM

the solution to the pollution is dilution

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1453 · August 15, 2011 at 8:05 PM

If you are concerned about cavities, give your kids xylitol.

Recent research confirms a plaque-reducing effect and suggests the compound, having some chemical properties similar to sucrose, attracts and then "starves" harmful micro-organisms, allowing the mouth to remineralize damaged teeth with less interruption. (However, this same effect also interferes with yeast micro-organisms and others, so xylitol is inappropriate for making yeast-based bread, for instance.) This is because cariogenic bacteria prefer fermentable six-carbon sugars, or disacharrides such as sucrose, as opposed to the nonfermentable xylitol, whose antimicrobial properties then "starve" the bacteria, reducing their growth and reproduction. Most of these studies suggest that at least 6 grams of xylitol per day is needed for dental efficacy.

Xylitol is specific in its inhibition of the mutans streptococci group, bacteria that are significant contributors to tooth decay. (wikipedia)

By the way, fluoride is toxic.

For example, one funny effect is its property to lower the IQ of our children.

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2290 · August 15, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Politely turn down your doctor's prescription and brush your daughter's teeth with fluoride free toothpaste. I use Tom's fluoride free. Spry makes one, too. Get better at brushing (and flossing) regularly.

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430 · August 15, 2011 at 3:45 PM

My kids and I used to have cavities every time we went to the dentist, until I took us all OFF fluoride a few years ago. We use flouride free SPRY toothpaste. And Periowash mouth rinse. Never had a cavity since~

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3904 · July 15, 2011 at 8:01 AM

Fluoride is absolutely everywhere these days and unfortunately kids are getting way too much. My daughter has had the white spots on her teeth as well and yet I am still having to turn down fluoride applications at school and at the dentist because the so-called experts don't seem to realize what is happening. It's in city water, toothpaste and even bottled drinks that have been prepared using city water supplies have it. You should absolutely turn it down.

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