Do you count vegetable protein (from veggies not powders) as part of your daily intake?

by 24012 · August 27, 2011 at 09:05 PM

I'm tinkering with lowering my protein intake and raising carbs via more LC veggies but I'm unclear if it's reasonable or expected that I include the protein intake from my veggies in my total protein count. For most people it's probably not an issue but if my ideal intake is 50-60g protein/day and I'm taking in 20g or so from veggies that makes a big difference in how much animal protein I can or should take in. What about nuts? Anyone know what people like Rosedale and Gedgaudus say about this (or anyone else who suggests a lower protein intake?) I really don't want to have to get into analyzing the quality of the protein in each veggie in order to decide if it counts. Most veggie protein is incomplete protein and while I know that concept is outdated it seems like I still should be considering the quality of the protein I'm ingesting at such low levels (cause I really want to be able to eat some meat each day if I can.)

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5477 · August 27, 2011 at 03:07 AM

I would say no because you've specified the source as LC veggies. From nuts, yes, because you can get an appreciable amount of protein from some nuts. Seed sources like Tahini are quite high in protein but also astronomical in O6, so I'm doubting you are considering that.

I'd say that with your your plan being upping LC veggies, you can just forge ahead and only count nut protein. I would actually think that given what you are going to do, your protein would change little to none. (I know you count calories, so am factoring that in.)

I often eat GIANT salads for a meal and yes, my protein for that meal goes down because I can only hold so much in my stomach, frankly, so I might have 1/2 as much protein from meat/fish/fowl in my salad as I would on a cooked dinner plate with veggies because I get very full and there is enough protein/fat in the salad to "anchor" me re: hours of satiety.

18373 · August 27, 2011 at 09:05 PM

I'm curious what vegetables you are eating to get so much plant protein. That seems like a lot from LC sources. I'm very leery of plant protein because that seems to be a common source of defense toxins, and aside from the completeness issue, I have the idea they aren't very healthy protein sources. There's this study for example, that associates bone density positively with animal protein and negatively with plant protein.

18619 · August 27, 2011 at 03:02 AM

I would probably not count protein for veggies. I don't have a good reason for this. Just what I would do.

8753 · August 27, 2011 at 02:19 PM

I believe if you are using fitday.com this will automatically include the foods protein, fat and carb content and count them in your daily intakes. I've been doing it this way since I started....didn't realize you wouldn't consider the foods full values. I guess that doesn't make sense to me removing values, same thing as people who discount carbs because of fiber content.

I'm super curious now about this, why would you discount the values from whole foods? Isn't it better to consider food on the whole and count it as it is actually??? Doesn't this allow you to 'tinker' with things to see the number in a different light?? (ie: creative accounting?)

I guess this is a new question!!

19504 · August 27, 2011 at 06:15 AM

80-100mg sounds perfect for you. I would for sure stay above 70g from meat, eggs or dairy.

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