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by 188 · about 7 hours ago

I will be experimenting with these three supplements individually, dedicating one month to each and documenting my results. Any personal positive or negative experiences would help my awareness during the experiment. I will be taking... (more)

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daz 0 · May 06, 2014 at 10:37 PM

i was just reading up a bit on supping with tryptophan... its best taken away from other amino acids (eg away from proteins), so probably best taken on an empty stomach (which i think most of the tryp supps mention on the bottle). the... (more)

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by 598 · about 7 hours ago

I'd like to buy some of those glasses you wear at night to cut down on the blue light hitting special receptors in your eyes and preventing melatonin and possibly other important circadian hormonal cycles... Any experience with these? What's... (more)

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wtfgod 0 · April 25, 2014 at 4:16 PM

From what I can tell they do work in general, I do feel more tired/relaxed when I wear them before bed but they don't seem to help my sleep. ( from what I can tell ) The ones I wear are the cheap uvex ones, they look horrible, don't wear... (more)

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by 0 · about 8 hours ago

I have problem with sleeping and I think the reason is about cortisol and melatonin. My morning cortisol is just on the high limit of the expected levels for morning and night cortisol just on the low limit of expected levels for night. Melatonin... (more)

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Mash 0 · May 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM

You could possibly try taking some B-12. Effect of Vitamin B12 on Performance and Circadian Rhythems in Normal Subjects: http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v15/n5/pdf/1380492a.pdf I personally started taking the NOW Methyl B-12 (1000mcg)... (more)

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by 4176 · about 8 hours ago

Pardon the super awkward wording of that question. Surprisingly, I am a native English speaker. I know there are other threads along the same subject, but I couldn't find an answer to this. I very, very rarely turn to any sort of sleep aid... (more)

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raydawg 0 · April 29, 2013 at 3:20 PM

I think we need someone to make a clean supplement that provides timed release melatonin at slightly ever increasing levels until it reaches a peak release, followed by a drop and decreased release. Sort of like a flat line going into a sharp... (more)

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by 80 · about 8 hours ago

I am exhausted upon waking (5am) and feel burnt-out every afternoon. Please hack my sleep! My hours at work changed last summer and I needed to start waking up at 5am instead of 6am for the opening shift. It didn't work out well. I???d get... (more)

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Lindsey_7 0 · February 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM

So, I really believe now it is the caffeine that's doing the damage. The last few weeks I know I overdosed as I was using it pre-workout/working out frequently and using it to cope with stress. At work I have the illusion of being 'pretty good'... (more)

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by 100 · about 8 hours ago

I was reading another post and someone posted the article below by Dr. Ray Peat and if I understand it correctly, you don't want to take 5-HTP because it increases Serotonin, which is exactly why I was taking it. If you agree with Dr. Peat's... (more)

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Kashkillz 0 · February 02, 2013 at 1:43 PM

It's all about balance and individuality. If you need it, it's good for you. If you don't it isn't. I would prefer 5-HTP to any pharmaceutical SSRI or MAOI. Melatonin can be addictive I understand. I use it to fall asleep if I don't need to be... (more)

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by 343 · about 8 hours ago

Hi all, I'm looking for some advice regarding my awful sleep. I'm one of those people who goes to bed reasonably early (say 9.30-10pm) and falls asleep without too much problem, then wakes up anywhere around 1-3 am, is awake until around 6, then... (more)

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CoconutBliss 0 · December 20, 2012 at 10:53 AM

I encountered this a few months back. Was exercising rather intensively and frequently on low-carb. I simply wasn't providing my body with the appropriate resources to replenish itself post-workout. Would wake up around 3am every night without... (more)

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by 5 · about 8 hours ago

I have recently been prescribed melatonin 2mg for severe insomnia. The first night I took it I was knocked out, which was lovely but I had strange grogginess/ slowing down of my whole system for the next 2 days. I have low blood pressure as it is... (more)

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anonymous_12 0 · November 15, 2012 at 1:39 AM

I think melatonin sucks big time. Especially in winter. The better bet is to try to manage your light exposure better. Try as best as you can to get early morning sun (if it exists in your area this time of year) and after sunset it's lights out... (more)

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by 5 · about 9 hours ago

I had a knee scope on 7/3. I eat paleo with dairy (cream + cheese) and per below some coffee and some alcohol (though not at all for past week for either). I only tend to eat 2 meals per day, and pretty low carb. Last night I added a bunch of... (more)

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Crowlover_ 0 · July 21, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Sorry. This sounds very hard. Better times ahead so don't worry. I agree with Matt. Get off the narcotics and Ambien. Narcotics are known to mess up sleep. Get some 5htp ASAP and take it at night is my recommendation. It really helps. You... (more)

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by 5381 · about 9 hours ago

I have been thinking about the issue of natural lighting recently, and looking into soft lamps, flameless candles (Using candles themselves seems a bit hassley and messy), even some sort of simulated fire or fire effect heater. I also am... (more)

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Dutch_1 0 · March 18, 2013 at 11:45 PM

There's research suggesting that low red light has some of the same anti-inflammatory benefits as the paleo diet. Any standard flickering electronic candle will emit more blue-shifted light because visibility makes it more marketable. Paleo =... (more)

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by 134 · about 9 hours ago

For a bit of sleeping aid and calm down before bed. Been taking Magnesium Glycinate for a few years but often see recommendations for Natural Calm. Which is preferable and anyone tried both? Also your opinions on Melatonin and which dose/form... (more)

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megawatts 0 · September 19, 2012 at 10:43 AM

I personally have a strong preference for magnesium glycinate. Many people do quite well with Natural Calm, but I frequently felt really strange on that stuff. I was never able to work my way above the initial small dose and felt it sometimes gave... (more)

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by 2199 · about 9 hours ago

I gather nightlife is not very paleo or good for your circadian rhythm, sleep cycles, and melatonin production. What's a single grokster to do?

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Craig_Almaguer 0 · July 08, 2012 at 2:53 AM

Nightlife? Everything in moderation, correct? You'll be fine. You've got a few buckets to consider: Eating right, exercising right, some sun, getting your sleep, and a couple other minor ones. If you're hitting it hard night after night, you might... (more)

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by 571 · about 9 hours ago

If anyone has had experience with supplementing melatonin at night, what have you found to be a good amount? Do you prefer the sublingual or the timed release?

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Dorado_Galore 0 · December 10, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Haven't tried timed release. Sublingual works for me. Experiment with the dosage, see what works for you. High doses of melatonin (50 mg) dramatically increased REM sleep time and dream activity in both people with and without narcolepsy:... (more)

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by 1457 · about 9 hours ago

I was listening to a podcast... not sure which one as I have been listening to a lot at night to put me to sleep. Robb mentioned that he uses melatonin a good bit especially to avoid jet lag (I want to say something up to 8mg.. could that be... (more)

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soahc 0 · November 06, 2011 at 2:26 AM

A friend who experimented with GABA told me it made him drowsy for days. I tend to avoid supplements that come close or function as neurotransmitters. For instance when I take tyrosine I feel like I am on speed (and I know that feeling... (more)

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by 2246 · about 9 hours ago

Once again I am asking on behalf of my girlfriend, Her sleep sucks, and it is really starting to bother her. She is 100% paleo, She has crappy digestion (taking HLC to help improve) She is currently doing a variation of Starting Strength... (more)

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Chris_Antenucci 0 · November 05, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Melatonin can be very helpful for many people, but not everyone. One reason is a little known fact is that much of the melatonin we produce, like serotonin, is in the gut. According to one study it produces 400 times more than the pineal gland... (more)

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by 492 · about 9 hours ago

After ceasing to take Natural Calm, I decided maybe I would give Melatonin a shot. This stuff kept me awake until 4am this morning. The main reason I'm experimenting with all these sleeping remedies is because I want to get my cortisol down.... (more)

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becker 0 · April 19, 2011 at 8:47 PM

I've struggled with insomnia my entire life, so this is right up my alley. I just bought a blindfold/sleeping mask and UBEX "Amber" colored safety glasses from Amazon. I've also been using Hearos Ultra-Soft ear plugs for about a year and half... (more)

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by 266 · about 10 hours ago

Should we worry about taking melatonin supplements? in Lights Out the author doesn't recommend it because it supposedly shrinks the pineal gland and reduces our natural production. Is there any evidence for this?

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Eva 0 · October 19, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Apparently, in many people, the pineal gland shrinks and produces less as we age. I don't see any long term studies on supplemental melatonin though. I would not be surprised if regular long term use caused the body to produce less melatonin on... (more)

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by 421 · about 10 hours ago

I recently started the magnesium/ melatonin kick before bed (at Robb's suggestion)- and it's been awesomely helpful in getting my sleep regulated. I have also, however, noticed that I am having unbelievably vivid and creative dreams... To the... (more)

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DaveRN 0 · October 04, 2010 at 6:34 PM

Yup. When I started taking Melatonin before bed, I had some very vivid, and strange dreams. I think I was taking too much (3mg). I take just .3 to 1 mg now, which still works for sleep and the vividness has gone away.

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by 5 · October 31, 2014 at 4:18 AM

I want to easily change the color settings of my TV to reduce blue light in the evenings like f.lux does for computers. Is there anybody doing this or something similar ?There are some settings on the TV that I'm not used to but it's probably able... (more)

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raydawg 0 · June 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Or you could not watch TV at night, or if you do wear orangle lensed glasses.

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by 233 · October 31, 2014 at 4:04 AM

lol.. Wouldn't that be dopeness?

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jessica_11 0 · April 17, 2013 at 11:46 PM

are you stoned?

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by 17136 · October 31, 2014 at 3:52 AM

So I've had several times where melatonin, both regular and time release has prevented, where the night before/after there was no issue with sleep, but I didn't take it. I don't normally take the stuff, and from the looks of it, I don't actually... (more)

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NewEra 0 · October 03, 2012 at 4:28 PM

I've read Melatonin can have the opposite effect in some people, keeping them up rather than helping them sleep! Maybe that's you? You could try magnesium supplements like Natural Calm before bed? I go through weird cycles where I sleep well all... (more)

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by 40 · October 31, 2014 at 3:19 AM

I still don't understand the significance of the prolactin surge (especially in older people).. what happens if you eat carbs within 4 hours of going to sleep? What is LR? I am neither a neurosurgeon, nor a scientist, nor a physician ??? is there... (more)

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The_Quilt 0 · July 31, 2011 at 6:29 PM

its huge......first step is Leptin levels rise slowly for fours post dinner. At midnight leptin then enters the hypothalamus. Once it binds to the receptor two things occur. The first is a second messenger is sent to the thyroid to up regulate... (more)

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by 678 · October 31, 2014 at 3:19 AM

Vitals - 40 y/o male, 6' 165lbs, eating paleo for over a year, lifting weights for nearly a year. I formerly suffered from reactive hypoglycemia, but cured it with the aforementioned diet and exercise. Overall I'm fit and physically I feel good... (more)

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sarah_ann 0 · July 29, 2011 at 1:42 PM

You could try the Seth Roberts method of stand on one leg: http://blog.sethroberts.net/2011/03/22/effect-of-one-legged-standing-on-sleep/ He had the exact same issue as you, waking up far too early. Also bear in mind our sleep is naturally... (more)

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by 320 · October 31, 2014 at 3:12 AM

If you take melatonin, does your own natural production of melatonin downregulate after a time? if so, how long does it take to screw up your own melatonin? Any idea on where I can read more about this? Thanks!

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Mike 0 · December 24, 2011 at 1:17 PM

No, it doesn`t---this seems to be a fairly perpetrated myth. The amplitude of endogenous melatonin production is not affected by melatonin treatment in humans. Matsumoto M, Sack RL, Blood ML, Lewy AJ. Department of Psychiatry and Neurology,... (more)

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by 9647 · October 31, 2014 at 3:06 AM

Having just become aware of the existence of the term Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome (Wikipedia), despite having had "symptoms" nearly all of my life that fit the "diagnosis" (I think you can tell from my scare quotes where I'm going with this) I'm... (more)

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David_Moss 0 · November 03, 2010 at 9:29 AM

I entirely take the point about the idea that DSPS-symptoms might somewhat result from individuals merely having differential responses to factors that are (largely) unavoidably in the modern environment, but (largely) absent in the paleo context.... (more)

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