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What do you think of Dr Russell Blaylock Nutrition and Behavior Aspartame MSG?

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25467 · February 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM

Russel is a smart guy and him leaving neurosurgery was a loss for us. But his passion is with nutrition and he is very detail oriented.

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56596 · February 03, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Whatever, there is no evidence that MSG is harmful in vivo. There are plenty of things that are harmful in vitro that I eat like peppers, vinegar, etc.

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78417 · February 03, 2011 at 6:09 AM

Many people seem to be misunderstanding the difference between "MSG" which is "Free glutamic acid" and "glutamic acid" which exists in meat, mushrooms and other things NATURALLY. The one Dr. Blaylock is saying is harmful is "MSG" which contains isolated "free glutamic acid". It's found nowhere in nature, it isn't the same as "glutamic acid". It causes neurotoxic effects to the brain. MSG is bad, glutamic acid that occurs naturally is healthy and necessary for the brain.

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2377 · August 16, 2010 at 6:18 AM

Grace, thanky you. You put it into perspective for me. And I will try to keep FelixKitchen alive (but under the kitchen.felix.... adress)

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2377 · August 16, 2010 at 6:10 AM

Makes sense. Thanks, Melissa. Guess I will research this a it during the next few weeks, sounds like an interesting branch.

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3703 · August 10, 2010 at 11:27 PM

...part 2 I've worked with dozens of migraineurs -- my clinical experience show that 100% are wheat intolerant. No studies to back to up. No drug Big Pharma to sell a 'wheatfree' drug and mega-billion-dollar blockbuster

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3703 · August 10, 2010 at 11:27 PM

My take is that an elimination diet is truly the only way to 'know' if someone is sensitive to a particular food. I don't know if Blaylock is speaking from clinical experience or otherwise. Present lab testing for gluten allergies is very primitive a -- none of the current testing for non-celiac and wheat intolerance are accurate (GI, biopsy, blood or salivary IgG, IgA, etc). Elimation is the only way to go accurately.

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78417 · August 10, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Also, as much as I dislike grains, I'm doubtful any of these papers (an opinion based on reading 2 of them, which are the more recent ones, and just looking at the titles) show anything beyond the fact that there is an elevated immune reaction to directly injected gliadin. There is no solid biological mechanism (the reaction is generally not characteristic of coeliac disease) for how gluten/gliadin might cause it, if it even causes it or if it is just a symptom in some schizo patients.

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78417 · August 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Please read the papers instead of just copy/pasting. I didn't read paper 2, but papers 1 & 3 do not show anything close to this magical 100% gluten allergy rate among schizos. There is an increase in the mean concentration of two antibodies (IgG and IgA) to gliadin, but there is no significant increase in the response to deamidated gliadin which is characteristic of coeliac disease. I'm not denying that gluten might have something to do with it, but it it looks like this Blaylock guy is pulling figures out of his ass. From the discussion in P3, it's stated that things are far from conclusive.

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3703 · August 10, 2010 at 6:04 PM

I alternate from a coupla sources: Thorne trace minerals, ZMA (which the guys/trainers at my xfit love) and NOW zinc glycinate and NOW thyroid support

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3703 · August 10, 2010 at 6:02 PM

here's the first 3 but total 71 hits on Pubmed for 'gluten' and 'schizophrenia', Spencer! 1.Markers of gluten sensitivity and celiac disease in recent-onset psychosis and multi-episode schizophrenia. Biol Psychiatry. 2010 Jul 1;68(1):100-4. Epub 2010 May 14. 2.Complementary and alternative medicine in the treatment of schizophrenia. Psychiatr Danub. 2009 Sep;21(3):376-81. 3.Novel immune response to gluten in individuals with schizophrenia. Schizophr Res. 2010 May;118(1-3):248-55. Epub 2009 Sep 11.

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56596 · August 10, 2010 at 4:28 AM

Hey, what zinc supplement do you recommend?

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15966 · August 09, 2010 at 8:24 PM

summed it up well, Melissa.

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10497 · August 09, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Well-pu and agreed!

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3703 · August 10, 2010 at 4:04 AM

Hi,

I think Dr. Blaylock has a lot of valid and interesting things to say that I have seen consensus on elsewhere... I was surprised how basically paleo he is! No grains/gluten/phytate, anti-soya and pretty much no dairy/casein. As I recall the last 2-3 slides are a stellar synopsis of the current problems in healthcare, chronic conditions and mental health (incl autism spectrum, ADHD, ADD, depression, etc).

His anti-saturated fat take is even par for course IMHO b/c even I try to cut the fat off of mass produced restaurant/Costco industry meat (but make the exception for pork belly YUMMMMM ok and other cuts too).

The fat tissues are the reservoirs for fat-soluble pesticides, PCBs, artifical growth hormones/antibiotics and other nasties. Most industrial meat are from animals just as sick as neolethal humans -- pre-diabetic, pre-cancerous, pre-obese/'marbled USDA grade A' wtf, vitamin ADEK1 K2 omega-3 deficient, 'bloat'-affected/gut dysbiotic, etc.

Melissa, ur totally RIGHT ON. We are totally evolved to eat free range MEAT MEAT MEAT -- charred or barbie q'd or stewed or RAW (more taurine!)... Haven't read or heard enough to know if Blaylock is into grassfed beef or free range chicken/eggs? Hope so! MSG (mono sodium glutamate) additives found in refined processed food products that Blaylock discussed are different I believe from the glutamine amino acid in meat. Also, Glutamine is an amino acid that Atkin's MD (IronMan and UltraIronMan competitor and surgeon) advises for healing the gut and and decreasing appetite HERE. Helps gut dysbiosis...(not neuro excitatory unless one has bipolar issues already)

Regarding Zinc deficiency, he also brings up good points -- the bane of current neolethal living -- 40-50% of Americans esp the pregnancy and children/youth are not getting enough Zinc for growth and even to meet the RDA per the latest nutritional survey NHANES III. Very sad. It is hard to obtain enough zinc from diet -- I've tried plugging into nutritiondata.com and my current diet is just NOT enough. Therefore I do supplement zinc and other trace minerals.

Dr. Emily Dean -- a new paleo/evolutionary physician treating mental conditions talks a lot of ZINC lately. Ck her out -- she's great! Evolutionary Psychiatry blog

Vaccinations -- contain mercury, known as thimerosal. So some of us don't have problems with it but others will retain it in neuronal and other sensitive tissues. Is it bad? Hell. Yeah. Mercury substitutes for iodine and other halides and minerals. Mercury has been shown to lower thyroid function (via suppressing the enzymes which activate thyroid hormone T3); hypothyroidism which is currently at epidemic proportions. Thyroid replacement drugs are among the top 10 pharmaceuticals dispensed in the U.S. Zinc deficiency affects ~100 enzymes and energetic pathways including production of thyroid hormone and neurotransmitters.

Felix -- so your questions involved are this relevant to paleo and why paleo works? This is why paleo WORKS imho. Miss ur blogging and amazing food p*rn, and glad to see the recipes still available BIG SMILE

-G

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25467 · February 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM

Russel is a smart guy and him leaving neurosurgery was a loss for us. But his passion is with nutrition and he is very detail oriented.

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2377 · August 16, 2010 at 6:18 AM

Grace, thanky you. You put it into perspective for me. And I will try to keep FelixKitchen alive (but under the kitchen.felix.... adress)

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3703 · August 10, 2010 at 6:04 PM

I alternate from a coupla sources: Thorne trace minerals, ZMA (which the guys/trainers at my xfit love) and NOW zinc glycinate and NOW thyroid support

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56596 · August 10, 2010 at 4:28 AM

Hey, what zinc supplement do you recommend?

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56596 · August 09, 2010 at 5:32 PM

As far as this video goes, I've seen it make the paleo rounds lately, which is a little sad to me, because of of the first rules of paleo is "Does this make sense evolutionarily?"

No, since glutamic acid is an important contributor to the delicious flavor of meat. Does it make sense that a major ingredient in a food we evolved to eat would be harmful? Another one of his excitotoxins, cysteine, is also a major part of tasty juicy healthy meat.

Either way, there is no evidence that gluatamic acid is harmful in vivo in normal amounts to healthy humans. Some people with illnesses have high levels in their brain, but there is evidence that it's a symptom rather than a cause.

If you are paleo you aren't consuming MSG and aspartame anyway, but I like to have paleo be associated with solid science and the same science used to demonize processed foods here could apply to things like sausage, kefir, or turkey.

I would love for some of the biochem people here to weigh in though...cough Grace

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56596 · February 03, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Whatever, there is no evidence that MSG is harmful in vivo. There are plenty of things that are harmful in vitro that I eat like peppers, vinegar, etc.

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78417 · February 03, 2011 at 6:09 AM

Many people seem to be misunderstanding the difference between "MSG" which is "Free glutamic acid" and "glutamic acid" which exists in meat, mushrooms and other things NATURALLY. The one Dr. Blaylock is saying is harmful is "MSG" which contains isolated "free glutamic acid". It's found nowhere in nature, it isn't the same as "glutamic acid". It causes neurotoxic effects to the brain. MSG is bad, glutamic acid that occurs naturally is healthy and necessary for the brain.

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2377 · August 16, 2010 at 6:10 AM

Makes sense. Thanks, Melissa. Guess I will research this a it during the next few weeks, sounds like an interesting branch.

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15966 · August 09, 2010 at 8:24 PM

summed it up well, Melissa.

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10497 · August 09, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Well-pu and agreed!

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3703 · August 10, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Paleo makes us less crazy collectively speaking...

  1. Markers of gluten sensitivity and celiac disease in recent-onset psychosis and multi-episode schizophrenia.

Dickerson F, Stallings C, Origoni A, Vaughan C, Khushalani S, Leister F, Yang S, Krivogorsky B, Alaedini A, Yolken R.

Biol Psychiatry. 2010 Jul 1;68(1):100-4. Epub 2010 May 14. PMID: 20471632 [PubMed - in process] Related citations

2.Complementary and alternative medicine in the treatment of schizophrenia.

Babi?? D, Babi?? R.

Psychiatr Danub. 2009 Sep;21(3):376-81. PMID: 19794360 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

3.Novel immune response to gluten in individuals with schizophrenia.

Samaroo D, Dickerson F, Kasarda DD, Green PH, Briani C, Yolken RH, Alaedini A.

Schizophr Res. 2010 May;118(1-3):248-55. Epub 2009 Sep 11. PMID: 19748229 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

4.Nervous system in the gluten syndrome: a close relationship.

Abenavoli L.

Med Hypotheses. 2010 Jan;74(1):204-5. Epub 2009 Sep 9. No abstract available. PMID: 19744798 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

5.Prevalence of Celiac Disease and Gluten Sensitivity in the United States Clinical Antipsychotic Trials of Intervention Effectiveness Study Population.

Cascella NG, Kryszak D, Bhatti B, Gregory P, Kelly DL, Mc Evoy JP, Fasano A, Eaton WW.

Schizophr Bull. 2009 Jun 3. [Epub ahead of print] PMID: 19494248 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] Related citations

6.Schizophrenia, gluten, and low-carbohydrate, ketogenic diets: a case report and review of the literature.

Kraft BD, Westman EC.

Nutr Metab (Lond). 2009 Feb 26;6:10. PMID: 19245705 [PubMed - in process]Free PMC ArticleFree text Related citations

7.The TGM2 gene is associated with schizophrenia in a British population.

Bradford M, Law MH, Stewart AD, Shaw DJ, Megson IL, Wei J.

Am J Med Genet B Neuropsychiatr Genet. 2009 Apr 5;150B(3):335-40. PMID: 18561261 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

8.The gluten connection: the association between schizophrenia and celiac disease.

Kalaydjian AE, Eaton W, Cascella N, Fasano A.

Acta Psychiatr Scand. 2006 Feb;113(2):82-90. Review. PMID: 16423158 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

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Gastroenterology. 2005 Apr;128(4 Suppl 1):S92-7. Review. PMID: 15825133 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

10.Gene, gut and schizophrenia: the meeting point for the gene-environment interaction in developing schizophrenia.

Wei J, Hemmings GP.

Med Hypotheses. 2005;64(3):547-52. PMID: 15617864 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

11."Bread madness" revisited: screening for specific celiac antibodies among schizophrenia patients.

Peleg R, Ben-Zion ZI, Peleg A, Gheber L, Kotler M, Weizman Z, Shiber A, Fich A, Horowitz Y, Shvartzman P.

Eur Psychiatry. 2004 Aug;19(5):311-4. PMID: 15276666 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

12.[Psychiatric symptoms and coeliac disease]

Potocki P, Hozyasz K.

Psychiatr Pol. 2002 Jul-Aug;36(4):567-78. Review. Polish. PMID: 12298186 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

13.[Review of psychopharmacological treatments in adolescents and adults with autistic disorders]

Baghdadli A, Gonnier V, Aussilloux C.

Encephale. 2002 May-Jun;28(3 Pt 1):248-54. Review. French. PMID: 12091786 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

14.Schizophrenic symptoms and SPECT abnormalities in a coeliac patient: regression after a gluten-free diet.

De Santis A, Addolorato G, Romito A, Caputo S, Giordano A, Gambassi G, Taranto C, Manna R, Gasbarrini G.

J Intern Med. 1997 Nov;242(5):421-3. PMID: 9408073 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

15.Dietary gluten and learning to attend to redundant stimuli in rats.

Harper DN, Nisbet RH, Siegert RJ.

Biol Psychiatry. 1997 Dec 1;42(11):1060-6. PMID: 9386858 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

16.Could schizophrenia be reasonably explained by Dohan's hypothesis on genetic interaction with a dietary peptide overload?

Reichelt KL, Seim AR, Reichelt WH.

Prog Neuropsychopharmacol Biol Psychiatry. 1996 Oct;20(7):1083-114. Review. PMID: 8938813 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Related citations

17.Specific IgA antibody increases in schizophrenia.

Reichelt KL, Landmark J.

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20.Small intestine permeability in schizophrenia.

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Br J Psychiatry. 1989 Nov;155:619-22. PMID: 2514959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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78417 · August 10, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Also, as much as I dislike grains, I'm doubtful any of these papers (an opinion based on reading 2 of them, which are the more recent ones, and just looking at the titles) show anything beyond the fact that there is an elevated immune reaction to directly injected gliadin. There is no solid biological mechanism (the reaction is generally not characteristic of coeliac disease) for how gluten/gliadin might cause it, if it even causes it or if it is just a symptom in some schizo patients.

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4163 · August 09, 2010 at 5:28 PM

Good video overall. I cringed a bit on the vaccination bit and the saturated fat bit though.. that undermines his other conclusions a little for me..

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I originally started viewing the Dr's video... Then at the end, after all the ' I will help you ' and ' I care ' I saw the subscription and the boldfaced statement that he cares for his 'subscribers'.... Then I searched the Internet for Dr Blaylock is and asshole... Because all these Internet gimmicks are only for some loser in a cheap suit and a duffel bag to make some money off poor deluded souls! Shame on this MoFo!

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168 · August 10, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Hi spencer there's a post on that at Evolutionary Psychiatry - the rate may be more like 10% of schizophrenics...

http://evolutionarypsychiatry.blogspot.com/2010/06/wheat-and-schizophrenia.html

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78417 · August 10, 2010 at 4:40 PM

This guy makes a lot of ridiculous claims. For example, he claims that 100% of schizophrenics are allergic to gluten/gliadin. No idea where he got that from. I didn't see anything on pubmed or GScholar indicating such a figure.

His list of top allergies includes coffee and potatoes? Right on!

I don't personally take aspartame or msg, but there is a dearth of real evidence (RCTs) that show any real health effects from these. Same goes for sucralose (oh noes it has chlorine in it). Sure they're artificial, but if you wanna look at the evidence, this guy is just full of bullshit.

He sounds more like an alarmist than anything else. It's one thing to be against the consensus based on compelling evidence, but this guy just seems to fly in the face of a lot of things, without much solid evidence to back it up. And based on the studies he refers to, such as the one claiming that sat fat impaired learning, I wouldn't be surprised if his overall standard for the evidence that he chooses is similarly low.

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3703 · August 10, 2010 at 11:27 PM

...part 2 I've worked with dozens of migraineurs -- my clinical experience show that 100% are wheat intolerant. No studies to back to up. No drug Big Pharma to sell a 'wheatfree' drug and mega-billion-dollar blockbuster

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3703 · August 10, 2010 at 11:27 PM

My take is that an elimination diet is truly the only way to 'know' if someone is sensitive to a particular food. I don't know if Blaylock is speaking from clinical experience or otherwise. Present lab testing for gluten allergies is very primitive a -- none of the current testing for non-celiac and wheat intolerance are accurate (GI, biopsy, blood or salivary IgG, IgA, etc). Elimation is the only way to go accurately.

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78417 · August 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Please read the papers instead of just copy/pasting. I didn't read paper 2, but papers 1 & 3 do not show anything close to this magical 100% gluten allergy rate among schizos. There is an increase in the mean concentration of two antibodies (IgG and IgA) to gliadin, but there is no significant increase in the response to deamidated gliadin which is characteristic of coeliac disease. I'm not denying that gluten might have something to do with it, but it it looks like this Blaylock guy is pulling figures out of his ass. From the discussion in P3, it's stated that things are far from conclusive.

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3703 · August 10, 2010 at 6:02 PM

here's the first 3 but total 71 hits on Pubmed for 'gluten' and 'schizophrenia', Spencer! 1.Markers of gluten sensitivity and celiac disease in recent-onset psychosis and multi-episode schizophrenia. Biol Psychiatry. 2010 Jul 1;68(1):100-4. Epub 2010 May 14. 2.Complementary and alternative medicine in the treatment of schizophrenia. Psychiatr Danub. 2009 Sep;21(3):376-81. 3.Novel immune response to gluten in individuals with schizophrenia. Schizophr Res. 2010 May;118(1-3):248-55. Epub 2009 Sep 11.

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10768 · July 26, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Thanks for the link...

Excitotoxins are an interesting concept, and remind me of the phrase "It was so good that it made my head explode".

In this case excitotoxins are making my neurons explode, and that can't be good for the thinky-box in the long term!

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