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Did anyone see Nightline last night?

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Created March 02, 2011 at 1:00 PM

What did you think? I just watched a clip on youtube and I liked it. I thought it was a positive portrayal (except for the fat-phobic nutritionists), but wish they could've touched on the fact that a lot of people are going paleo to heal gut problems, etc.

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7324 · March 03, 2011 at 11:50 PM

Although still not a great article. They basically said it wouldn't kill you to have a little if you're substituting it for butter.

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180 · March 03, 2011 at 5:05 PM

I heard Robb Wolf and read John Durant talking about people who role-play Paleo for whatever reason - and that's exactly what this "movement" does NOT need. That's all the information I have but I have no problem believing it happens.

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9812 · March 03, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Yeah I was hoping for them to at least talk about gut issues; that seems to be a big part of why many of us are doing this. They could've cut a minute off the Crossfit stuff and talked about the health benefits. I liked the exercise part, but discussing health would've been more effective and attractive to potential newbies, IMO.

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9812 · March 03, 2011 at 2:51 PM

True that! Not a good celeb endorsement!

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180 · March 03, 2011 at 2:44 PM

Agreed, Heather. Keep in mind though, that mainstream media doesn't realize that the "exercise those calories off" model is broken and that they probably think the exercise is a much bigger portion of the Paleo/Primal lifestyle than it is (not that it ISN'T important, just not as important as the food we take in).

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803 · March 03, 2011 at 1:25 PM

At least the reporter said to Art Devany, "I can eat the fat too?" and Devany replied, "Yes."

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9812 · March 03, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Yep I agree on all counts- I got my mom to watch (trying to bring her over) and I told her I wish they talked about the health benefits and it just seemed like a diet, but she disagreed with me; she got the impression that it really was portrayed as a lifestyle, so that's good. Now she's interested in learning more!

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4984 · March 03, 2011 at 10:24 AM

*old.............

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4984 · March 03, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Yeah he has definitely drunk from the fountain of youth! Facially I actually think Art Devany looks ild untill he smiles.

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1159 · March 03, 2011 at 9:43 AM

I don't think it's a good idea to advertise fat consuption on TV because that will lead a lot of people to consume unhealthy fats, for sure. It's best to simply get curious about the whole Paleo deal, and find out for yourself what you should be eating.

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974 · March 02, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Didnt the one nutritionist look a bit mal-nutritioned-- too skinny

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974 · March 02, 2011 at 10:25 PM

I agree with your Heather-- but isnt that typical of the media

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1293 · March 02, 2011 at 10:24 PM

I like Art. I wonder how someone from the total outside (not into this stuff) sees him.

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440 · March 02, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Thank you Jules.

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440 · March 02, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Wow, I didn't know he was close to 40!

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Yes, I saw that article too! There was a quote about how folk in the nutrition world are starting to admit that they had it wrong about saturated fat; that was satisfying.

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1293 · March 02, 2011 at 9:56 PM

He's 39, which makes him basically 40, which is astounding.

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1023 · March 02, 2011 at 8:14 PM

At first I cringed at the "low-fat nutritionist" too, but overall the nutritionists they had all gave the diet a thumbs up, which I took as very positive. I normally expect the tired "fad diet" label, which the narrator suggested didn't apply.

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2437 · March 02, 2011 at 6:24 PM

I agree about the Crossfit, especially because Art and John Durant don't do crossfit and Robb does his own thing and has written articles on how Crossfit can burn you out. So basically no one on the panel was a crossfitter.

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10294 · March 02, 2011 at 6:11 PM

they have got to do it, isn't it, they always insert some nutrionist that says something about the fats...

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386 · March 02, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Yeah. The guy is like a (super-ripped) kid. :D

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307 · March 02, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Good points Heather. I wondered how they were going to handle the whole Crossfit thing, considering how they treated Robb. That was dumb of them to let him go though I bet they're not complaining with all the free publicity they got out of the deal.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Yeah I would've loved some good word on sat fat! My dad and I are trying to convert my mom, so I told her to watch last night. I talked to her about it today, she said it sounded great but she "noticed they said to eat lean meats; they weren't eating all that lard like you do." D'oh! Kinda validated mom's fat phobia, but now that she's curious to learn more, she'll figure that part out eventually.

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1204 · March 02, 2011 at 4:24 PM

the nutritionists were overshadowed by the 120Lb Hot chicks doing power cleans.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 4:14 PM

That is really unfortunate :(

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56616 · March 02, 2011 at 3:44 PM

There were tons of women they filmed and cut, not just me, but the women at the Black Box and Crossfit South Brooklyn.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Yeah I know! I was marvelling at how youthful he looked in his interview.

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13635 · March 02, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Too bad they didn't feature some of the SINS women.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Yep, very true!

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5768 · March 02, 2011 at 3:06 PM

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440 · March 02, 2011 at 3:03 PM

I could of done without those "nutritionist" talking bad about fat.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 2:19 PM

True, I hadn't thought of that! I thought I caught a few glimpses of you in the dinner part? If so, it would've been great if they included your perspective.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Yeah, I thought the featured paleo folk were great, but it kinda came across as just another diet :(

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154 · March 02, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Ok, as much as I heart Robb for his boyish good looks, changing my life etc. I just felt that there was too much focus on cross fit. Crossfit seems rather extreme to the average couch potato.... I think more emphasis should have been put on why grains are not a part of our diet, and that saturated fat is not the demon that it is made out to be (in our humble educated opinion of course) Otherwise always neat to see Paleolithic lifestyle get some attention in main stream media

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1159 · March 03, 2011 at 9:43 AM

I don't think it's a good idea to advertise fat consuption on TV because that will lead a lot of people to consume unhealthy fats, for sure. It's best to simply get curious about the whole Paleo deal, and find out for yourself what you should be eating.

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180 · March 03, 2011 at 2:44 PM

Agreed, Heather. Keep in mind though, that mainstream media doesn't realize that the "exercise those calories off" model is broken and that they probably think the exercise is a much bigger portion of the Paleo/Primal lifestyle than it is (not that it ISN'T important, just not as important as the food we take in).

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2437 · March 02, 2011 at 6:24 PM

I agree about the Crossfit, especially because Art and John Durant don't do crossfit and Robb does his own thing and has written articles on how Crossfit can burn you out. So basically no one on the panel was a crossfitter.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Yeah I would've loved some good word on sat fat! My dad and I are trying to convert my mom, so I told her to watch last night. I talked to her about it today, she said it sounded great but she "noticed they said to eat lean meats; they weren't eating all that lard like you do." D'oh! Kinda validated mom's fat phobia, but now that she's curious to learn more, she'll figure that part out eventually.

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307 · March 02, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Good points Heather. I wondered how they were going to handle the whole Crossfit thing, considering how they treated Robb. That was dumb of them to let him go though I bet they're not complaining with all the free publicity they got out of the deal.

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974 · March 02, 2011 at 10:25 PM

I agree with your Heather-- but isnt that typical of the media

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56616 · March 02, 2011 at 1:59 PM

I'm a little disappointed that the only women talking were those dim-witted nutritionists. It came across as a diet for men.

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56616 · March 02, 2011 at 3:44 PM

There were tons of women they filmed and cut, not just me, but the women at the Black Box and Crossfit South Brooklyn.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 4:14 PM

That is really unfortunate :(

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13635 · March 02, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Too bad they didn't feature some of the SINS women.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 2:19 PM

True, I hadn't thought of that! I thought I caught a few glimpses of you in the dinner part? If so, it would've been great if they included your perspective.

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440 · March 02, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Overall I think it was positive for the Paleo world. It introduced the word "Paleo" to many viewers new to the concept and it featured Robb Wolf's book, a good starting point into Paleo living. Someone today is researching Paleo for the first time because of that tv spot.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Yep, very true!

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440 · March 02, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Thank you Jules.

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307 · March 02, 2011 at 4:01 PM

I thought it was excellent, though the dimwitted nutritionists discussing low fat was a cringe point for me as well. It's almost as if they were brought on as an afterthought, as a way of lending credence to this wild'n'crayzee caveman eating thing. If so, good on them because I think ultimately they did more good than harm. After nearly 60 (or is it 70?) years of wholesale media blitz against fat, lipophobia is going to be an uphill battle. I don't think it'll take too long to reverse that. Though certainly it will take more than one segment on Nightline, even a very good segment.

My reaction after watching the entire thing surprised me - I actually felt proud that I'm part of this. There are certainly tons of super smart paleo folks who weigh in every single day with everything from lectures to workshops to books to blog posts to conversations on forums like this one. But usually when big media takes a stab at trying to explain it I end up frustrated because they bungle it up and entirely miss the point. I didn't feel that way this time. I wasn't expecting that and it surprised me. Robb and Art did a tremendous job. They are both naturals and can talk about this in an easy accessible way to most folks. I'll be interested in seeing what Robb says about this. I would like to see an interview with Melissa next! :)

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12407 · March 02, 2011 at 2:28 PM

why is it that every diet has to have a celebrity endorsement? charlie sheen shacking up with "the goddesses" notwithstanding, there are very few celebrities i'd want to model any part of my life after...

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5768 · March 02, 2011 at 3:06 PM

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4984 · March 03, 2011 at 10:29 AM

One of the nutritionalists had this wild look in her eyes that seemed to be screaming "FEED ME SOME FAT" !! I actually thought both Robb and Art Devany came across really well and charming, shame there was no female spokes person in the VT but oh wells. I suppose the publicity was good, as long as anyone doesn't get a hand on my grass fed beef ;D survival of the fittest and all that, I will fight you for it....

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1293 · March 02, 2011 at 9:16 PM

It was good and it's going to reach more people BECAUSE the mainstream nutritionist types they had on there didn't knock it.

Times are changing! There's an article today's NY Times about coconut oil NOT being bad. What a remarkable turnaround from just a decade ago.

BTW, Art has that quivery lower lip deal that old people sometimes have.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Yes, I saw that article too! There was a quote about how folk in the nutrition world are starting to admit that they had it wrong about saturated fat; that was satisfying.

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7324 · March 03, 2011 at 11:50 PM

Although still not a great article. They basically said it wouldn't kill you to have a little if you're substituting it for butter.

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13635 · March 02, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Overall I thought it was pretty good. They have to throw in some counterpoints so they can call it "journalism." They should have mentioned Robb's age also. I believe he's 38(?), but he looks 18.

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1293 · March 02, 2011 at 9:56 PM

He's 39, which makes him basically 40, which is astounding.

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4984 · March 03, 2011 at 10:24 AM

*old.............

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Yeah I know! I was marvelling at how youthful he looked in his interview.

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386 · March 02, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Yeah. The guy is like a (super-ripped) kid. :D

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440 · March 02, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Wow, I didn't know he was close to 40!

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4984 · March 03, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Yeah he has definitely drunk from the fountain of youth! Facially I actually think Art Devany looks ild untill he smiles.

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4620 · March 02, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Here's the link:

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I like it. I found Art to be hilarious.

Reporter: "You're not going to hurt yourself pulling your TRUCK?" Art: "It's easy. Yeah. Easy for me."

Of course they had to have conventional nutritionists doing damage control to smooth things over. "Sure, it can be healthy, as long as they eat tons of veggies and avoid fat by eating lean meat." I also can't stand the caveman gimmick on all these segments. The Flinstones references, the dinosaur backdrops, etc. But I suppose that's a good way to grab people's attention and hopefully get them to look further into the paleo way of life.

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1293 · March 02, 2011 at 10:24 PM

I like Art. I wonder how someone from the total outside (not into this stuff) sees him.

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180 · March 03, 2011 at 2:55 PM

I cringe inside whenever these sorts of reports come out in mainstream media because there's no way that a five-minute segment can truly cover all the intricacies of Paleo living. This was a good one, for sure, but even so I have to agree with fellow commentators above in that it didn't talk nearly as much as it should have about WHY it works.

The mainstream media echoes a lot of the problems I have in talking about this stuff with people - the complete and utter emphasis on weight loss as the reason to go "on a diet." I recommended the Paleo diet to an internet forum friend who's looking to bulk up and get healthier, only to be told by other forum members that his height and weight were fine and that he didn't need to go on a diet because his weight was okay. Sigh.

I'd liked to have seen Nightline talk more about disease prevention and gut/intestinal issues; how wrong conventional wisdom is about nutrition and exercise (or at least mentioning the disagreements between Wolf/De Vany and conventional nutritionists); the real issues with wheat, corn, and grain intake in general; and things like that.

I mean, how hard would it have been to hear Wolf and De Vany present counterpoints to the 'lean meats' arguments of the two nutritionists they interviewed? That would have made for a much more compelling piece (and more informative, too!).

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9812 · March 03, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Yeah I was hoping for them to at least talk about gut issues; that seems to be a big part of why many of us are doing this. They could've cut a minute off the Crossfit stuff and talked about the health benefits. I liked the exercise part, but discussing health would've been more effective and attractive to potential newbies, IMO.

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88 · March 03, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Fred Flintstone clearly didn't live Paleo. ;)

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9812 · March 03, 2011 at 2:51 PM

True that! Not a good celeb endorsement!

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555 · March 03, 2011 at 5:56 AM

I was pleasantly surprised. I wish we got the word out there on fats being good, but perhaps that would've been too much for ABC to handle in one night :P

I thought ABC was actually quite positive about Paleo, and except for the "nutritionists", didn't feel like it was being portrayed as a fad diet.

And it's awesome that so many more people were exposed to the lifestyle.

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9812 · March 03, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Yep I agree on all counts- I got my mom to watch (trying to bring her over) and I told her I wish they talked about the health benefits and it just seemed like a diet, but she disagreed with me; she got the impression that it really was portrayed as a lifestyle, so that's good. Now she's interested in learning more!

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803 · March 03, 2011 at 1:25 PM

At least the reporter said to Art Devany, "I can eat the fat too?" and Devany replied, "Yes."

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600 · March 02, 2011 at 6:14 PM

Are there really nut job paleo dieters out there wearing bear skins and carrying clubs? All the primitive skills nut jobs I know eat SAD or grain based hippie diets.

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180 · March 03, 2011 at 5:05 PM

I heard Robb Wolf and read John Durant talking about people who role-play Paleo for whatever reason - and that's exactly what this "movement" does NOT need. That's all the information I have but I have no problem believing it happens.

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429 · March 02, 2011 at 1:38 PM

I agree. Nutritionists tell people to avoid fat like the plague. It's pretty funny. They didn't really show or talk about people recovering from illness or anything. they just sorta portrayed it as a fad diet. But seeing the Crossfit trainer wear a Municipal Waste T-shirt made my day!

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974 · March 02, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Didnt the one nutritionist look a bit mal-nutritioned-- too skinny

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440 · March 02, 2011 at 3:03 PM

I could of done without those "nutritionist" talking bad about fat.

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9812 · March 02, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Yeah, I thought the featured paleo folk were great, but it kinda came across as just another diet :(

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1204 · March 02, 2011 at 4:24 PM

the nutritionists were overshadowed by the 120Lb Hot chicks doing power cleans.

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