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How much do you trust "paleo" sources of information?

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Does the source of your information on diet and health determine how you accept the information?

Do you question and research into advice from paleo* online/book sources as you would from your Primary Care doctor or other conventional sources?

Particularly of advice from authority figures such as medical doctors. Many people following other dietary philosophies, such as vegans, will accept some terrible information from influential members of their community because they do not question the information; such as information about human anatomy and digestive systems that could easily be falsified with some independent research.

If you accept advice more readily form sources who share your views and biases do you think this may leave you open to misinformation and should we question information more?

*In this case "paleo" could include any related area of diet and health.

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1074 · November 06, 2011 at 4:19 AM

I read all sources, but if a source has proven to me he or she is on the wrong track, I'm gonna tend to ignore it. i.e. I don't follow fitness guys like Alan Aragon, Lyle McDonald, Martin Berkhan etc. as much as I listen to say, Mark Sisson.

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13692 · November 02, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Thanks for the clarification Bree :-)

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12369 · November 01, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Aravind - asshat: http://www.designerstalk.com/forums/attachments/general-discussion/4176d1202414856-my-macbook-air-not-expected-asshat.jpg

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13692 · November 01, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Shari - is asshat the same as asshole? Or does 'hat' imply the problem is cerebral, not rectal?

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4984 · November 01, 2011 at 1:33 PM

*you were......

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4984 · November 01, 2011 at 1:33 PM

really? You felt healthy when you fat and lazy? I think that's quite unusual. I've never been fat but I knwo when I was unhealthy I felt terribly lathargic and had all sorts of digestive issues, migraines etc, one of my favourite things about "going paleo" has been how muh better I feel, energy and health wise.

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10214 · November 01, 2011 at 12:18 PM

@seaburgers, my body felt pretty good when it was fat and lazy. Changing that required action that my body wasn't keen for, guided by what an outsider could see plainly but I couldn't.

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4984 · November 01, 2011 at 9:43 AM

@thhq that's probably more listening to your mind, are you talking about cravings? I'm all for listening to your own body as in pay attention to what makes you feel healthiest, one man's "safe starch" is another man's poison and my body tells me pretty quickly whether something is making me feel good or not :)

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4984 · November 01, 2011 at 9:37 AM

@luckybastard Yes!! That.

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1353 · November 01, 2011 at 6:46 AM

@Olivia-which one?

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7540 · November 01, 2011 at 4:06 AM

Yeah, the reviews for a particular PH doctor certainly are interesting.

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10214 · November 01, 2011 at 3:59 AM

I'd like to believe it mallory, but if I'd listened to my body I would have had a stroke by now. I needed someone else's guidance.

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24271 · November 01, 2011 at 2:13 AM

Interesting analogy Theresa. A 50 year o ld neurosurgeon who's a money grubbing asshat. Imagine that.

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11986 · November 01, 2011 at 1:07 AM

Bahahaha. JK about jk, eh?

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2231 · November 01, 2011 at 12:55 AM

i love me some buddha!!!!

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6087 · November 01, 2011 at 12:47 AM

The final word for me is jackkruse.com Jk, it's experience for sure.

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7324 · November 01, 2011 at 12:04 AM

:D .

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7324 · November 01, 2011 at 12:03 AM

:) .

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0 · October 31, 2011 at 11:59 PM

Yes but a 12 year old could be telling a 50 year old nuero surgeon that he should eat Paleo to cure depression, while the surgoene will say you need lots of money to battle depression. The truth is only what you can trust, doesnt matter how smart you are.

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45 · October 31, 2011 at 11:55 PM

I would boil this question down to: Do you have a trust bias that aligns with those that think/act like you do? Of course.

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9647 · October 31, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Mike Myers + Matthew = one true Scotsman.

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19220 · October 31, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Paul, Ah dinnae hink 'at is a problem :) Thocht ah cannae be coonted as ah true Scotsman as ah come frae sooth ay th' border.

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 8:51 PM

I'm YOUR dummy baby!

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16131 · October 31, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Could not agree more.

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16131 · October 31, 2011 at 8:45 PM

You're a dummy. xoxoxoxo

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 8:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrQxQPG8JdE&feature=related

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 8:20 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjYHvAly_IE&feature=related

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 8:20 PM

Not at all WCC - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzG_J7RCGS0&feature=related

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9647 · October 31, 2011 at 8:17 PM

I tend to believe whatever Matthew the Scotsman says. Do you think that's a problem?

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9647 · October 31, 2011 at 8:14 PM

I distrust all paleo authorities except Matthew the Scotsman.

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Thanks SM, LB, JJ, Rose

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 8:03 PM

I guess it depends upon what the secret sauce is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSWnmOvgyKc

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20519 · October 31, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Nice Mallory! That's how I've been since adopting the lifestyle. I definitely talk about it, compare notes and ideas with others and read up, but ultimately its been all me and I like, as does my body, what I've done so far.

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12407 · October 31, 2011 at 7:26 PM

the bigger question being, is there something in your plan that is unique to other similar plans that you can say, ah ha! this is the secret sauce!!!

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20519 · October 31, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Aces Rose, very nice.

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11986 · October 31, 2011 at 7:24 PM

I especially like your point about "people have gotten healthier" doing x or y. It seems to me that in all groups, some people will improve after making any change. That's the entire basis of large RCTs, after all. And it's why I don't extrapolate from my own positive experience that ZC is good for everybody, when clearly many have *not* benefitted from it, and some have even suffered.

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20519 · October 31, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Me likie this link, thanks Mer! You're one smart cookie. Chocolate chip with coconut I think...

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20519 · October 31, 2011 at 7:22 PM

What GWAR said.

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12407 · October 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM

whoot whoot... a big assed plus one...

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12407 · October 31, 2011 at 7:17 PM

i think most people drawn to paleo have a slight to severe contrary, independent streak running through them...

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18701 · October 31, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Amazing points, Aravind. They may seem like common sense to some of us, but others blindly follow some gurus or doctors without considering these points.

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Nice answer mari

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16131 · October 31, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Just so you know, I can't find anything on Kurt Harris or William Davis.

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Nice answer Rose

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Very interesting link Mer. I will have to check that out.

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78422 · October 31, 2011 at 6:50 PM

I use myself first, then others.

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37187 · October 31, 2011 at 6:48 PM

I always use MYSELF as the guinea pig because none of my friends or family are remotely close to primal/paleo. Sounds like a great technique, though.

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3891 · October 31, 2011 at 6:46 PM

Great question, Matthew!

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16131 · October 31, 2011 at 6:44 PM

You are so right on about acting on faith. I always try to preface what I report from health info with "So and so says" and end it with "but I don't really know if it's true." I think that if someone told me that I should eat according to my astrological sign though, I'd be pretty quick to call bulls%$t without looking further into it. I'm a Taurus by the way.

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11986 · October 31, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Good resource, Mer! Thanks for the link.

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18701 · October 31, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Yes, Rose. Awesome answer. The final word for me is also my own experience.

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37187 · October 31, 2011 at 6:06 PM

I'm with Mallory. It's wise to listen to a wide variety of sources; I read primal/paleo/caveman/vegetarian/vegan/fruitarian ones. I think about what I read, but in the end I listen to how my body responds and do my best to maximize my energy and health. After all that, the result for me is a basically primal approach with more fruit than many--at least 2 pieces every day, frequently 3 or 4. I eat fewer coconut products than many but I definitely thrive on meat/fat from beef and duck, less so from pork and chicken. I'm not a big fish eater but now and then I get hungry for sardines.

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78422 · October 31, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Nice............

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138 · October 31, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Sums up my answer exactly. I love to debunk stuff other people send me but I don't usually try to debunk or verify research I hear about that I agree with. Although I would hesitate to pass info on to other people unless I verified it. But, there are studies that "prove" either side of a theory. It's just a matter of seeing if the studies were done properly and that's much more difficult.

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1960 · October 31, 2011 at 5:43 PM

File under, "There's a Word for That": "During normal decision-making, anchoring occurs when individuals overly rely on a specific piece of information to govern their thought-process. Once the anchor is set, there is a bias toward adjusting or interpreting other information to reflect the 'anchored' information. Through this cognitive bias, the first information learned about a subject (or, more generally, information learned at an early age) can affect future decision-making and information analysis." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring

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78422 · October 31, 2011 at 5:38 PM

+1 for "We're all ultimately acting on faith". It looks like people are not willing to accept the fact that science is religion.

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1371 · October 31, 2011 at 5:08 PM

trust nobody. trust yourself. success lies in confidence. listen to your body.

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 7:01 PM

I agree with Rose regarding the element of faith. We could go on and on about how someone earns our trust and becomes a "guru" that we rely upon (e.g. formal training, letters before/after their name, personal life transformation story, etc). Peter at Hyperlipid says "no gurus". However my take is that there are gurus, but it is not a tenured position. It needs to be continually earned (or at least not lost).

Perhaps it will be more efficient "via negativa" to answer this question

  • Has he/she ever blatantly lied or falsified information?
  • Does the person make bold claims absent supporting information? I am not talking about cites for every last claim, but at least controversial ones.
  • Does he/she have a history of being litigious on blogs and forums with dissenting views?
  • Is he/she unwilling to consider alternate points of view?
  • Does he/she imply omniscience rather than acknowledging limitations of his/her knowledge?
  • Does the person engage in ad hominem attacks?
  • Does the person have an incoherent writing style? Genius that no one else can comprehend is not very useful.
  • Is the person emotionally unstable? This might seem odd but it is difficult to trust someone, even versed in science, that arguably needs to be institutionalized, or at least get some intensive therapy
  • Is the person respected by his peers? This is not synonymous with complete agreement on all points

I could go on. This is not the be all / end all list, just an off the cuff response to the question. Also, this is obviously not a black-white assessment - there are many shades of grey. But if a person fails enough of the questions, then one must consider the possibility that this person is doing more harm than good for our community.

Also, I do NOT think the argument "well, a lot of people have gotten healthier following his/her advice" holds water. People have gotten healthier following Ornish and Oz also. Correlation is not causation.

I think this is a great question Matthew. If Paleo ever reaches the tipping point, I hope the voices leading the community make us proud, not hold our head in shame.

Ghee, out...

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 8:03 PM

I guess it depends upon what the secret sauce is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSWnmOvgyKc

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18701 · October 31, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Amazing points, Aravind. They may seem like common sense to some of us, but others blindly follow some gurus or doctors without considering these points.

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12407 · October 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM

whoot whoot... a big assed plus one...

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16131 · October 31, 2011 at 8:45 PM

You're a dummy. xoxoxoxo

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13692 · November 01, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Shari - is asshat the same as asshole? Or does 'hat' imply the problem is cerebral, not rectal?

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12407 · October 31, 2011 at 7:26 PM

the bigger question being, is there something in your plan that is unique to other similar plans that you can say, ah ha! this is the secret sauce!!!

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0 · October 31, 2011 at 11:59 PM

Yes but a 12 year old could be telling a 50 year old nuero surgeon that he should eat Paleo to cure depression, while the surgoene will say you need lots of money to battle depression. The truth is only what you can trust, doesnt matter how smart you are.

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Thanks SM, LB, JJ, Rose

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11986 · October 31, 2011 at 7:24 PM

I especially like your point about "people have gotten healthier" doing x or y. It seems to me that in all groups, some people will improve after making any change. That's the entire basis of large RCTs, after all. And it's why I don't extrapolate from my own positive experience that ZC is good for everybody, when clearly many have *not* benefitted from it, and some have even suffered.

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7324 · November 01, 2011 at 12:03 AM

:) .

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12369 · November 01, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Aravind - asshat: http://www.designerstalk.com/forums/attachments/general-discussion/4176d1202414856-my-macbook-air-not-expected-asshat.jpg

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20519 · October 31, 2011 at 7:22 PM

What GWAR said.

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 8:51 PM

I'm YOUR dummy baby!

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7324 · November 01, 2011 at 12:04 AM

:D .

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13692 · November 02, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Thanks for the clarification Bree :-)

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24271 · November 01, 2011 at 2:13 AM

Interesting analogy Theresa. A 50 year o ld neurosurgeon who's a money grubbing asshat. Imagine that.

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11986 · October 31, 2011 at 5:09 PM

What an excellent question. For me, years of following standard weight-loss and health advice only to fail miserably have led me to mistrust just about everything. The final word for me is my own experience.

A case in point is when I tried zero-carb the first time, after a year-long stall on VLC. I was totally skeptical, and tried it only as a last resort, expecting fully to find that going from 20g/day to 2g/day of carbs would make no difference. Instead, I lost nearly 20 pounds, and felt wonderful. Even after that, though, I couldn't believe it, and went back to VLC, regaining weight and losing some of the health improvements I'd found. It was another year before I was willing to try again, despite my own success. I kept "explaining" the success away as being due to having been VLC long enough, and it was only when another year of VLC resulted in no further weight loss and continuing poor health that I realized I shouldn't eat plants, no matter who says what.

The same has turned out to be true for me in the "safe starches" debate. As much as I admire Paul Jaminet and some of his most ardent supporters, it simply hasn't worked for me in the two multi-week trials I gave it.

The downside of only trusting N=1 experience is that I tend to embrace theories that support my experience and dismiss those that don't. It makes me narrow, I suppose. However, I think I can say that I've only used Theory as a basis for trying certain approaches, and not for justifying my continued commitment -- the commitment comes out of experience, period. If my current approach stopped working, I'd change in a heartbeat.

And, of course, there are no guarantees of the long-term efficacy or safety of any approach, including any and all forms of "paleo." We're all ultimately acting on faith.

ETA: My skepticism of everything extends to peer-reviewed studies as well as proclamations from internet gurus. I seem to be different enough from the average obese middle-aged woman that even Atkins, which has been vindicated by a slew of recent studies, wasn't low-carb enough to do the trick for me. And anthropology fails me as well -- I'm clearly not a Kitavan, lol.

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20519 · October 31, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Aces Rose, very nice.

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16131 · October 31, 2011 at 6:44 PM

You are so right on about acting on faith. I always try to preface what I report from health info with "So and so says" and end it with "but I don't really know if it's true." I think that if someone told me that I should eat according to my astrological sign though, I'd be pretty quick to call bulls%$t without looking further into it. I'm a Taurus by the way.

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1960 · October 31, 2011 at 5:43 PM

File under, "There's a Word for That": "During normal decision-making, anchoring occurs when individuals overly rely on a specific piece of information to govern their thought-process. Once the anchor is set, there is a bias toward adjusting or interpreting other information to reflect the 'anchored' information. Through this cognitive bias, the first information learned about a subject (or, more generally, information learned at an early age) can affect future decision-making and information analysis." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring

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78422 · October 31, 2011 at 5:38 PM

+1 for "We're all ultimately acting on faith". It looks like people are not willing to accept the fact that science is religion.

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18701 · October 31, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Yes, Rose. Awesome answer. The final word for me is also my own experience.

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78422 · October 31, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Nice............

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Nice answer Rose

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11986 · November 01, 2011 at 1:07 AM

Bahahaha. JK about jk, eh?

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6087 · November 01, 2011 at 12:47 AM

The final word for me is jackkruse.com Jk, it's experience for sure.

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16131 · October 31, 2011 at 5:40 PM

I really like this question.

I try to research studies on the regular just to see if the things my gurus are saying jive with the science. But, as we know, so many studies are flawed from the start - whether it's bad science or whether the sponsoring agency is tainted by industry money.

That's one reason why I like to go with the advice given by people who work with real folks and achieve results. Some of these people may be doctors, some may not. I respect what Robb Wolf and Mark Sisson have to say because it seems like their advice is based on Both science and real world results.

One thing I have not done until recently (which made me slap my head in "DOH!" fashion) was research the patient reviews of doctors who give health advice. Seems reasonable to me that we use sites like this one: http://www.ratemds.com/ to look into our medical gurus just to see what their history with real life patients is like. It can be pretty enlightening.

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20519 · October 31, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Me likie this link, thanks Mer! You're one smart cookie. Chocolate chip with coconut I think...

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11986 · October 31, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Good resource, Mer! Thanks for the link.

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16131 · October 31, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Just so you know, I can't find anything on Kurt Harris or William Davis.

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7540 · November 01, 2011 at 4:06 AM

Yeah, the reviews for a particular PH doctor certainly are interesting.

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Very interesting link Mer. I will have to check that out.

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1353 · November 01, 2011 at 6:46 AM

@Olivia-which one?

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2977 · October 31, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Me, I trust everybody AND nobody. I tend to believe a lot of what I read. After all, I'm not in a position to head into a lab with someone's research paper in hand, and try to experimentally validate every item contained. And there's no way I'm qualified to analyze every scientific article with the kind of scrutiny needed to prove it's right or wrong. Instead I trust some people, and use their wisdom to evaluate interesting claims. I'll also trust competing claims and theories, which keeps my eyes and ears open for actual truth.

A good example is VLC vs LC vs "hey ho hey ho the hell pass the honey pot hey ho." I trust the VLC voices here who give convincing arguments. I also trust Paul Jaminet of the Perfect Health Diet for a more carbs perspective. AND I even trust Ray Peat who pushes sugar in amounts that would make most people here fall down in shock. So what's the "truth"? I have no idea! But the more I read them, and listen to their (hopefully polite) discussions, the further into the truth I get.

In my view the Answers aren't decided yet - and probably never will be decided beyond a working approximation. So my goal is to go with what seems to be correct, but keep my mind open for new light.

Of course reputation matters to a degree - like in that review site Meredith posted above: one should tease out the "god this guy is awful!" meme from the "I don't believe him" comments- the former is an experience, the latter can happen when the envelope is pushed.

Ray Peat, Paul Jaminet and Ron Rosedale, btw, are good examples (out of many) in why I trust their voices - always the gentlemen, patiently explaining their ideas and not pushing any viewpoint with obvious self-aggrandizement. Paul is selling his book of course, but has never pushed it in an overt way yet has been more than generous with his time and attention. Ray Peat just keeps putting his ideas out there and any income he might get seems almost incidental to his work.

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16131 · October 31, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Could not agree more.

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7324 · October 31, 2011 at 5:04 PM

To be perfectly honest, I don't question nearly as much as I should within the paleo community. When someone like Paul Jaminet or Stephan Guyenet cites a study for something that does not seem terribly controversial, I probably won't go follow it and try to find a loophole. I often go and read the study, or at least the abstract, but I don't pore over it for errors. Maybe I should, but at the moment I don't have enough time and I figure that there are smarter people than me doing that already. However, when I get studies from vegans trying to tell me why red meat has been silently killing me, I look up the studies immediately and do my best to dissect them.

So I guess I am more open to misinformation now, but I feel like I've gotten the basics down pretty well so its not one of my biggest concerns at the moment.

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13692 · October 31, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Nice answer mari

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Sums up my answer exactly. I love to debunk stuff other people send me but I don't usually try to debunk or verify research I hear about that I agree with. Although I would hesitate to pass info on to other people unless I verified it. But, there are studies that "prove" either side of a theory. It's just a matter of seeing if the studies were done properly and that's much more difficult.

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8868 · November 01, 2011 at 12:22 AM

Implicitly.

Not really.

I did learn a lot about the erotic uses of coconut oil, though....

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1652 · October 31, 2011 at 5:37 PM

I don't inherently trust paleo sources of information over other sources. Anecdotally, I find that paleo-minds question more than others. Perhaps paleo has taught me/others to question before we accept or trust information. In the end, science truly is an art - a difficult one at that.

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12407 · October 31, 2011 at 7:17 PM

i think most people drawn to paleo have a slight to severe contrary, independent streak running through them...

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4984 · November 01, 2011 at 9:37 AM

@luckybastard Yes!! That.

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8239 · October 31, 2011 at 5:59 PM

???Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.??? ??? Buddha

I question (investigate, look into, look beyond surface) any health related claim that pertains to a practice I might consider putting into place for myself. I do so not with an assumption of suspicion; rather from a place of open-minded skepticism. The moniker "paleo" gives me no greater assurance about quality or reliability than "natural" or other nonsense terms used to promote products and practices.

As for trusting biases that conform to one's own biases: huge margin for error in that. Hence even Buddha's suggestion is not fool-proof. For often my "own common sense" has been mistaken, and my reasoning flawed. It has taken me a while to realize I have an innate conservative impulse with respect to health stuff, specifically with respect to potential interventions aimed at improvement and progress. Precisely because I take self-responsibility seriously and believe lifestyle decisions and personal behaviors are crucial, I don't undertake significant changes casually.

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2231 · November 01, 2011 at 12:55 AM

i love me some buddha!!!!

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78422 · October 31, 2011 at 5:30 PM

I don't trust anybody, including medical journals.

It goes like this with me. First i disable common sense. Then I read around and if over some longer time I encounter similar lines of thought by various independent sources I accept it as potential truth.

Later, when there is situation which requires crystallization of such potential truth [i.e. I decide that its good idea for it to influence my life or life of somebody else], I check medical journals and books exclusively, monitoring organisations and scientist involved. Then I concentrate on personal observations and case studies which are equally important for me. Then I check level of toxicity. Then I start following most prominent persons if that is possible to determine how they think in general. There was multiple times so far I have seen some of my favorite people promote radical or strange ideas triggered by some event. If this phase finishes with positive outcome, I start following directly opposing fraction for some time [for instance Science Based Medicine forum or QuackWatch etc] and I try to put myself into that role. If I start to evaluate the method and incorporate it in my every day life, I will recheck data on each future event that could be connected to it.

Then i try to find some guinea pigs - coworkers, friends etc... to further test the theory.

So all in all, I tend to question ideas for prominent community members even more then that of others.

I generally aim for least sensational substances with low potential for toxicity. That way I make sure if it doesn't work, or entire world is wrong [happened before] at least there is low probability to screw myself.

And one rule: if you are promoting your ideas by attacking others, I no longer listen [good example: Gorski and Adams]

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78422 · October 31, 2011 at 6:50 PM

I use myself first, then others.

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37187 · October 31, 2011 at 6:48 PM

I always use MYSELF as the guinea pig because none of my friends or family are remotely close to primal/paleo. Sounds like a great technique, though.

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4984 · November 01, 2011 at 9:35 AM

I love this question! We should always be questioning information given to us and not blindy follow someone or accept their views as facts because they have some sort of title or "guru status". When it comes to your health, in my opinion it is important enough to need to look deeper into things, and of course the most important thing is listen to your own body.

It's so difficult though, especially if you are short of time, or if you don't have a comprehensive enough understanding of science yet. I've done it myself! You can think people are completely legit (if not just a bit mad) at first, but the more material you read the more cracks start showing. It's completely unfair and unjust of these people to throw their OPINIONS out there as solid fact, and they could potentially cause some serious damage to the very people that are placing their trust in them! All I can say is, thank goodness for the internet and the ability to google and research people.

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10214 · November 01, 2011 at 3:52 AM

I am skeptical of most paleo sources because the claims often do not match my own experience. There's a certain egotism about the paleo authors that rubs me the wrong way, and other than Guyenet I see too much lockstep adherence to credal beliefs and too little intellectual questioning. To the extent that paleo supports my own experience in eating meat and being active, and to the extent that paleo supports restriction of high glycemic carbs as an effective way for the obese to escape health problems, it is very helpful. But my doctor's conventional advice was more useful, ultimately because it was personalized rather than because it followed a set theory. Paleo has been a good support, but my health problems were under control before I found out about it.

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0 · October 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM

I do what feels good and I don't trust other peoples advice. The only way you know paleo works is once you feel what it does to your body and you just wont want to go back.

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