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Know of any feasting techniques?

by 394 · November 19, 2012 at 02:33 PM

When I go to a giant buffet that serves plenty of quality, nutritious meats and seafood, I like to get my dollars worth and more. At a certain point I can chew but swallowing becomes more of a chore than a pleasure. Are there any techniques that would allow me to break that barrier?

I do not speak of binges, I speak of feasts. Perhaps a distinction can be made, even if it only be mine: a binge is MINDLESS emotional eating and includes foods that have no nutritional value; whereas a feast is the MINDFUL consumption of nutritious foods for the benefit of the body.

Feasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for taking advantage of the good fortune of an abundance of nutritious food that is available for a limited time. On the other hand, fasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for coping with the absence of nutritious food. For instance if the only food available were beer and pizza, then fasting would be the optimal option. Feasting and Fasting are traditional, even biblical, guidelines for achieving optimal health.

Fasting techniques abound, but are there any for feasting?

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432 · October 22, 2012 at 05:54 PM

I will try to answer as close to the intent of the question poster as possible. Perhaps some of my answer will not be what many here would recommend for usual eating circumstances, but I see this question as a very unusual eating circumstance, and will try to answer the question as posted:

I would say that since fat induces satiety, eat the leaner things first, so you do not get the satiety signals. Also, if possible, save your favorites for the end, so your mind will still want to eat more. Typically, I am a proponent of "eat your favorite things first", but for your particular question, I think saving your favorites might compliment your goals. Not that you want "filler" as any part of the meal, and I take from your question that you will be choosing the best of the best, I am guessing that even with the best of the best, everyone has favorites.

You will also be able to eat more since there will be such a variety of things. Although I can not cite specific studies, I do remember reading somewhere that the more tastes that are available, the larger quantity of food you are likely to eat.

I believe you will also be able to eat more (and likewise, stay significantly longer occupying a table without raising ire, and being able to linger over the food) if you bring a friend whose company you truly enjoy and can have entertaining conversation with during your meal. They do not necessarily have to know your goal of feasting, but I think sharing the experience of the feast with another person whose company you enjoy will significantly contribute to the experience, even if you are not able to eat the quantity of food you want, so you will still feel the experience was worthwhile.

On a side note, I am not convinced fasting beforehand is necessarily beneficial in this particular scenario. I personally find fasting decreases my stomach capacity, so you might find snacking here and there the morning/afternoon of your feast night (I am guessing it will be a dinner feast/) might help you with your feasting.

So my personal and unprofessional comments in summation:

  1. Snack the morning/afternoon of your feasting day (if it is a dinner feast)
  2. bring an enjoyable companion for company
  3. eat leaner, less calorie dense items first
  4. eat as much variety as possible, as you will enjoy/try/eat more
  5. save favorite items and calorie dense items for towards the end of your feast

Hope that helps, or at least provides a different point of view. I personally enjoyed your question and it got me thinking in ways that hadn't occurred to me, particularly the fasting/feasting.

It is also commendable that you are able to get so much wear out of a single pair of pants. Even with patching and sewing, just the fact that the fibers themselves are holding up is impressive.

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4956 · October 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Skip the buffet and hit up the Brazilian Steakhouse!

Matt
PhysiqueRescue.com

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11664 · October 16, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Is this for real? I'm thinking "it's hard to swallow" is your body telling you to STOP EATING.

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11251 · October 19, 2012 at 05:40 PM

The seafood is probably the least processed and most expensive, so stop worrying about volume and go for quality.

If you really want to hurt yourself, you can train for massive eating overload by eating a big ass salad every day. A big ass salad will stretch your stomach everyday, but not give you very many calories. As far as I can tell this is lettuce's only true reason for existence. It was created in a lab by people in the diet industry who know handing desperate people a low calorie/high volume food is extremely evil, as well as lucrative. After about a month of hard training with big ass salads, your stomach will be very stretched. Then you can go to the buffet, and prove to yourself conclusively that the average American female knows absolutely nothing about losing weight. You will be able to eat massive amounts of food, though you want to go fast, because when your body notices there are that many real calories there instead of a big ass salad, it will try to make you catatonic for three days so that it can process it all. You'll probably need someone else to drive you home and change your diapers until the catatonic phase passes.

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2036 · October 17, 2012 at 04:57 AM

I would think a buffet is probably not the best place for a feast. Sure, it makes some financial sense...I guess. But compared to traditional feasts, which were an opportunity for jubilant celebration and gratitude, a buffet doesn't seem to offer much. My two cents? Save a feast for when you can really reap the emotional, spiritual, social, etc. benefits.

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2923 · October 17, 2012 at 04:12 AM

Have you looked at the Leangains approach where he eats a massive cheesecake etc? I recall he has a post about it... (here it is - http://www.leangains.com/2010/11/cheat-day-strategies-for-hedonist.html)

Due to fat taking longer to induce satiety relative to carbs it might help you to vary macro proportions as you go through the meal.

Varying tastes and textures (ie salty to sweet and back again for example) and just eating a bunch of different highgly palatable, energy dense foods ought to fit your goals too, as Mike T said.

Your appetite will also increase of course if you've done some sort of activity in the period prior. If you're having trouble swallowingthen that may be an indication of eating very quickly - are you mindful of the food going down/your pace of consumption?

edit- lemon juice is also an appetite stimulant. Certain combinations also go very well together, think salty and sweet salad dressings, salty and bitter (bacon and brussle sprouts, kale and salt etc), sour and sweet (lemon and sugar)bitter -sweet (chocolate!). Varying these over the course of the meal may be useful for you.

This guy's post might of interest too. http://www.chiefrok.com/blog/body-fitness-and-nutrition/introduction-to-feasting/

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9387 · October 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM

I think to prepare, fasting is good, but I think you want to drink a lot of water throughout the day to keep your stomach full/stretched.

I think variety (taste, texture) is the key when you hit the wall. On man versus food, the guy once had to eat a huge amount of ice cream. He hit a wall, but then ate some french fries, which allowed him to continue eating more ice cream. At some point, our brain gets overloaded by the same food and just says stop. Introducing something different can shut that off.

So if you've been eating a lot of chewy, juicy, steak and are hitting a wall, maybe try to throw in some bacon or something to mix it up. Maybe even go further and have a bit of something sweet (e.g., fruit).

Good luck. Pretty ballsy to ask this here. :)

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2192 · October 23, 2012 at 01:48 PM

Evening Round-Up by Col William C Hunter, dated 1915:

The residents of Pompeii had fine plumbing, baths and luxuries. They had a place called a vomitorium. The old Roman sports were gluttons; they stuffed themselves, then went to the vomitorium and threw up so they could eat more.

While the vomitorium has been thoroughly dispelled as a myth the idea is still a good one. I would also suggest digestive enzymes starting the day before and plenty of fluids (coconut water) to help stretch your stomach out. Also, alcohol will dull your senses and allow you to gorge even further. I suggest starting off with something hard and keep drinking it straight till it doesn't taste bad anymore. Then you'll be ready.

Also found this: http://www.asylum.com/2010/01/28/how-to-win-a-competitive-eating-contest-training/

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100 · October 22, 2012 at 09:19 PM

Not sure this is entirely relevant to what you want to achieve, but:

http://natemiyaki.com/i-feast/

(intermittent feasting)

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649 · October 19, 2012 at 01:37 AM
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1163 · October 17, 2012 at 01:39 AM

I suggest reading about competitive eaters, not posting on a board where the majority of people are trying to stop bingeing.

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18427 · October 16, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Go for lunch and stay through dinner....they love that sorta thing.

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2314 · October 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

dont eat starch, drink as little as possible, fast 24+ hours/lift heavy before hitting it up.

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26083 · November 19, 2012 at 02:33 PM

So I just saw this post on built lean, it might help you out: http://www.builtlean.com/2012/11/19/without-gaining-fat/

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2903 · October 19, 2012 at 04:53 PM

I think there is a difference between a feast and a full on gorging session and you're getting the two confused. But you want to know the best method to prevent gorging, from what I understand?

Something that tends to work for me is telling myself that (a) this isn't my last meal, ever and (b) there will be leftovers, unless you're actually at a buffet, but chances are you can go back and (c) it's just food, it's not an extra life in a video game. Yes, food is tasty, especially good food, but really, is taste the best feeling ever? I'm sure some people are convinced it is, but you might need to convince yourself it isn't.

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77340 · October 19, 2012 at 12:34 PM

focus on the bacon!

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