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Know of any feasting techniques?

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Created October 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

When I go to a giant buffet that serves plenty of quality, nutritious meats and seafood, I like to get my dollars worth and more. At a certain point I can chew but swallowing becomes more of a chore than a pleasure. Are there any techniques that would allow me to break that barrier?

I do not speak of binges, I speak of feasts. Perhaps a distinction can be made, even if it only be mine: a binge is MINDLESS emotional eating and includes foods that have no nutritional value; whereas a feast is the MINDFUL consumption of nutritious foods for the benefit of the body.

Feasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for taking advantage of the good fortune of an abundance of nutritious food that is available for a limited time. On the other hand, fasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for coping with the absence of nutritious food. For instance if the only food available were beer and pizza, then fasting would be the optimal option. Feasting and Fasting are traditional, even biblical, guidelines for achieving optimal health.

Fasting techniques abound, but are there any for feasting?

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11557 · October 23, 2012 at 4:16 PM

^If you don't catch that's me making fun of provocation and you, well....

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11557 · October 23, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Lolz for jumping right into a religious argument unprovoked in reaction to a one-off sarcastic statement. When that happens, I know you are just here for the sake of arguing and feeling superior.

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452 · October 22, 2012 at 9:29 PM

^Darn it, ancientstandard. I was hoping the scene in Hunger Games where they vomit at the feast to make more room was therefore based off historical vomitoriums.

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432 · October 22, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Do take my advice; your act is stale.

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100 · October 22, 2012 at 9:16 PM

For the record, the vomitorium is a myth - http://ancientstandard.com/2007/04/22/veni-vidi-vomit-1st-c-bc/

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432 · October 22, 2012 at 9:11 PM

@luckie: Release from your predictability would be my pleasure

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10490 · October 22, 2012 at 9:08 PM

You sure do make a lot of assumptions, and jump straight to uber-serious ramblings real quick. Highly entertaining. Do continue!

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10490 · October 22, 2012 at 9:00 PM

This isn't bingeing, Renee! This is something exactly like it except it's good, healthy, and Biblical!

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10490 · October 22, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Finally, a comment I agree with! +1 for zaitz!

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432 · October 22, 2012 at 8:56 PM

I'll eat the delicious stuff, and cram it down my gullet till my stomach bursts, thank you.

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432 · October 22, 2012 at 8:53 PM

@luckie: Are you a "militant" atheist? Following some "religion" of atheism? Attacking anything that resembles religious dogma even if it's actually harmless, or even beneficial, to society? Well, if you are, then cut it out. You give atheists a bad name. And being one myself, I find your behavior repulsive. But I suppose I'm caught being intolerant of your type, so now I'm shown to be a hypocrite now, no? I suppose as much as you're sick of theists, I am sick of all of you - fanatic theists and militant atheists alike.

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432 · October 22, 2012 at 8:43 PM

@luckie: Are you a militant atheist? Following the religion of atheism? Attacking anything that resembles religious dogma even if it's actually harmless, or even beneficial, to society? Well, if you are, then cut it out. You give atheists a bad name. And being one myself, I find your active hatred to be repulsive.

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432 · October 22, 2012 at 6:28 PM

I think you're right about not fasting before a feast. I have heard horror stories of ruptured intestines due to eating too much after a long fast.

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24538 · October 20, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Mussels and clams can be gotten at pretty reasonable rates and steamed at home ($4.99/lb. when the season is right at Whole Foods, certainly less at a dock). You can get many of the less desirable, yet more nutritious fish parts from fish mongers for almost nothing like shirako (fish sperm), fish heads for broth, salmon bellies, bitsu, livers, etc. Ask for the bits they cut away, and they'll either give them to you for free or for very little. Save your money, and buy a nice pair of pants to wear for interviews so you can get a job that pays well enough to cover your lifestyle.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Are there Argentinian steakhouses out there? Might they serve more offal?

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 11:13 AM

@ Luckie: There are some men among us who, if they are to thrive, have no choice but to seize life by the throat and make decisions that might be counterintuitive and/or unpopular. As long as a newly implemented plan works well and with the fewest of consequences, who's to question why or how, or, worse still, disparage it? Not all of us are fortunate enough to be luckie like you.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 8:56 AM

@ Luckie: There are some men among us who, if they are to thrive, have no choice but to seize life by the throat and make decisions that might be counterintuitive and/or unpopular. As long as something works well and with the fewest consequences, who's to question why or how, or, worse still, disparage it? Not all of us are fortunate enough to be luckie like you.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM

@ Luckie: If they are to thrive, there are some men among us who have no choice but to seize life by the throat and make decisions that might be counterintuitive and/or unpopular. As long as something works well and with the fewest consequences, who's to question why or how, or, worse still, disparage it? Not all of us are fortunate enough to be luckie like you.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 8:54 AM

@ Luckie: If they are to thrive, there are some men among us who have no choice but to seize life by the throat and make decisions that might be counterintuitive or unpopular. As long as something works well and with the fewest consequences, who's to question why or how, or, worse still, disparage it? Not all of us are fortunate enough to be luckie like you.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 8:52 AM

@ Luckie: If they are to thrive, there are some men among us who have no choice but to seize life by the throat and make decisions that might be counterintuitive, unpopular, or unusual. As long as something works well and with the fewest consequences, who's to question why or how, or, worse still, disparage it? Not all of us are fortunate enough to be luckie like you.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 8:41 AM

I am a man of shorter stature and I am fighting back

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 8:39 AM

nor would i rent out my gut property to such refuse

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 7:42 AM

nor would i rent out the gut property to such refuse

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 7:41 AM

i wouldn't waste my hard-earned money on veg

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 6:53 AM

Did I implicate that I consider the bible as anything other than literature allowing us a glimpse into the history of eating?

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 6:48 AM

Did I implicate that I consider the bible as anything other than literature?

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 6:47 AM

Did I implicate that I took the bible as anything other than literature?

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 6:46 AM

Did I indicate implicitly that I took the bible as anything other than literature?

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 6:43 AM

@ Luckie: If they are to thrive, some men have no choice but to seize life by the throat and make decisions that are unconventional and unpopular (as long as they work). Not all of us are fortunate enough to be luckie like you.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 6:41 AM

@ Luckie: If they are to thrive, some men have no choice but to seize life by the throat and make decisions that are unconventional and unpopular. Not all of us are fortunate enough to be luckie like you.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 6:36 AM

@ Luckie: In order to thrive some men must seize life by the throat. Not all of us are luckie like you.

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10490 · October 19, 2012 at 6:25 PM

You pay $25 for a meal that someone else cooks on the logic that you will just stuff yourself until you no longer want to swallow and that it's Biblical to do so, yet you wear the same pair of pants eery day for a year? Whoa-kay, I think I have heard all I need.

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10490 · October 19, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Why do you keep mentioning Biblical? Is that supposed to convince us that overeating will save our souls?

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10490 · October 19, 2012 at 5:54 PM

I appreciate your humor in this post but I do not appreciate your disparaging remarks about lettuce. :)

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 2:58 PM

mystic lake in shakopee, mn - $25

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7275 · October 19, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Even if they notice too many people eating more than expected, they will have to raise their prices. This is why I personally hate all-you-can-eat places: as a 5'3" female, there's no way I can get close to my money's worth, because they price it for people who can eat a lot at once.

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9402 · October 19, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Where is this buffet located and how much does it cost? I'm intrigued. Might join you for a feast someday.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 1:07 PM

carbs disrupt my digestion

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM

I am working part time while I work on creative projects, so I don't have the money to pay the fishmonger's full price for oysters, crab, sashimi, mussels, etc. This buffet is the highest quality I've seen. When I have the cash, I don't waste it on clothing for instance (even though I've worn the same single pair of pants for over a year - I stitch them up myself as needed), I invest in my body/brain.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM

I am working part time while I work on creative projects, so I don't have the money to pay full price for oysters, crab, sashimi, mussels, etc. This buffet is the highest quality I've seen. When I have the cash, I don't waste it on clothing for instance (even though I've worn the same single pair of pants for over a year - I stitch them up myself as needed), I invest in my body/brain.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 9:10 AM

I am working part time while I work on creative projects, so I don't have the money to pay full price for oysters, crab, sashimi, mussels, etc. This buffet is the highest quality I've seen, and when I have the cash, I don't waste it on clothing (even though I've worn the same single pair of pants for over a year - I stitch them up myself as needed), I invest in my body/brain.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 8:53 AM

its not just any food, its expensive seafood. fasting is amazing. makes me feel truly alive and mentally powerful.

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5381 · October 19, 2012 at 7:41 AM

I think when you hit that wall, youve probably already feasted, no? What exact benefit are you after, more food for less money? Do you fast?

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 4:55 AM

After a feast is a time of fasting (perhaps a day or seven), and the extra food consumed in the one meal will have ample time to digest fully. After a gourmandizer's binge there is.. well.. another binge... then another... and another.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 4:54 AM

After a feast is a time of fasting (perhaps a day or two), and the extra food consumed in the one meal will have ample time to digest fully. After a gourmandizer's binge there is.. well.. another binge... then another... and another.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 4:44 AM

A gourmandizer is mindful only of pleasure and partakes in his favorite hobby regularly - possibly nearly every meal. Feasting is a much more rare event that takes place if and only if the finest meats and seafood are available in quantity for a limited time. A feast excludes all foods that are not worthy - foods void of minerals, vitamins, etc. On the contrary a gourmandizer will consume whatever his palate finds worthy regardless of nutritional value. A significant distinction can be made between the behavior of a feaster and that of a gourmandizer: one is mindful of health and one isnt

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 4:43 AM

A gourmandizer is mindful only of pleasure and partakes in his favorite hobby regularly - possibly nearly every meal. Feasting is a much more rare event that takes place if and only if the finest meats and seafood are available in quantity for a limited time. A feast excludes all foods that are not worthy - foods void of minerals, vitamins, etc. On the contrary a gourmandizer will consume whatever his palate finds worthy regardless of nutritional value. A significant distinction can be made between the behavior of a feaster and that of a gourmandizer: one is mindful, one is mindless.

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24538 · October 19, 2012 at 3:57 AM

How is desiring your body to eat more than it wants without any external social pressure not the mark of a gourmandizer?

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 3:48 AM

...target embarrassingly well. You believe that digestive fluids are finite for any one meal; I think that be debatable - consult Aajonus Vonderplanitz et al. As for the purported detriments of a stretched stomach, I think that be preposterous. It shows how little you know about the physical constitution and mechanics of the stomach. I am very grateful for your attempt to disprove my hypothesis, but I am afraid you've entertained yourself with your speak much more than you've informed or persuaded me of anything.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 3:47 AM

...target embarrassingly well. You believe that digestive fluids are finite for any one meal; I think that be debatable - consult Aajonus Vonderplanitz et al. And as for the purported detriments of a stretched stomach, I think that be preposterous. It shows how little you know about the physical constitution and mechanics of the stomach. I am very grateful for your attempt to disprove my hypothesis, but I am afraid you've entertained yourself with your speak much more than you've informed or persuaded me of anything.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 3:46 AM

...target embarrassingly well. You believe that digestive fluids are finite for any one meal; I think that be debatable (Consult Aajonus Vonderplanitz et al). And as for the purported detriments of a stretched stomach, I think that be preposterous. It shows how little you know about the physical constitution and mechanics of the stomach. I am very grateful for your attempt to disprove my hypothesis, but I am afraid you've entertained yourself with your speak much more than you've informed or persuaded me of anything.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 3:33 AM

carbs tend to disrupt my digestion, but "to each is own" as the hacks like to say.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 3:22 AM

...target embarrassingly well. You believe that digestive fluids are finite for any one meal; I think that be debatable. And as for the purported detriments of a stretched stomach, I think that be preposterous. It shows how little you know about the physical constitution and mechanics of the stomach. I am very grateful for your attempt to disprove my hypothesis, but I am afraid you've entertained yourself with your speak much more than you've informed or persuaded me of anything.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 3:16 AM

...target embarrassingly well. You believe that digestive fluids are finite for any one meal; I think that be debatable. And as for the purported detriments of a stretched stomach, I think that be preposterous. It shows how little you know about the physical constitution and mechanics of the stomach. I am very grateful for your attempt to disprove my hypothesis, but I am afraid you've entertained yourself with your speak more than you've informed or persuaded me of anything (other than your penchant for pop-health talking points).

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 3:11 AM

...target embarrassingly well. You believe that digestive fluids are finite for any one meal; I think that be debatable. And as for the purported detriments of a stretched stomach, I think that be preposterous. It shows how little you know about the physical constitution and mechanics of the stomach. I am very grateful for your attempt to disprove my hypothesis, but I am afraid you've entertained yourself with your speak more than you've informed or persuaded me of anything.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 3:10 AM

...target embarrassingly well. You believe that digestive fluids are finite for any one meal; I think that be debatable. And as for the purported detriments of a stretched stomach, I think that be preposterous. It shows how little you know about the physical constitution and mechanics of the stomach. I am very grateful for your attempt to attack my hypothesis, but I am afraid you've entertained yourself with your speak more than you've informed or persuaded me of anything.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 2:58 AM

target embarrassingly well.

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 2:57 AM

If you witnessed what foods I was eating (and what I was not), and knew the true value of those foods, would you change your stance? Is there anything wrong with desiring to get the most out of a dollar (especially during such trying times as these)? How do you know that I be a gourmandizer? By what foods he eats or how much he eats, whether he eats in a box or with a fox? And how did you come to think that I would ever surrender the most valuable of foods without extracting every last bit of nutrition possible from them? This last point point indicates that perhaps you've missed the....

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432 · October 18, 2012 at 9:57 AM

My beliefs on the POTENTIAL value of the feast and yours on eating competitions and gourmandizing are known; let us move on. What are your thoughts on week-long water fasts?

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432 · October 18, 2012 at 8:54 AM

What are your thoughts on week-long water fasts?

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432 · October 18, 2012 at 8:51 AM

This place is filled with whole East Asian families piling their plates high. What do we know about their cultures? They value good food and close families.

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432 · October 18, 2012 at 8:41 AM

You speak, therefore you are right

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2029 · October 17, 2012 at 8:05 PM

This is probably correct. In my parts, a buffet is equivalent to the cheap Chinese kind or Furr's cafeteria. I've never been to one that had anything remotely similar to quality food. My family does go to a local buffet restaurant when getting together for Christmas (out of town family is extremely allergic to all our pets), but I don't look forward to the food. Just the people.

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24538 · October 17, 2012 at 8:10 AM

...health is a bit of a red herring. Perhaps what you need is to invest in a good feather, and embrace the tradition of the Roman vomitorium, so that you can keep up your conspicuous consumption without having to overstretch your stomach.

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24538 · October 17, 2012 at 8:08 AM

...It wasn't about health, it was about one-ups-man-ship and competition. I've seen this same phenomenon play out on pizza night in college dorms. There is a gender gap on this on, the women eat until they are full or not quite full, and the men eat until they are hurting, often egging each other one to have just one more slice, or just one more beer. You are in competition with the price point of your meal, trying to get your money's worth. You only have so much stomach acid and so much in the way of digestive enzymes available at any given meal, over-extending yourself in the name of...

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24538 · October 17, 2012 at 8:00 AM

Rather than thinking the negativity you are receiving is about some sort of female neurotic relationship with food (of which I do not have), I am very aware of the history of the kind of feasting you describe as usually being a contest of machismo, a form of competitive eating. One of the more unique versions if this was practiced by the tribes in the area where I live. Historically, potlatches were held where the host would show off by providing an over-abundance of food, and the guests would stuff themselves well beyond satiety to prove themselves worthy of the feast...

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 7:58 AM

I have to say that the chiefrok blog was worth my time, thank you. Funny as well.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 7:32 AM

I don't know exactly what to make of this (if anything). Perhaps it's the fact that the female population has higher incidence of eating disorders, making this topic a very sensitive one for those affected.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 7:27 AM

Something of note (a very small thing maybe): The comments made my males have been supportive and informative, whereas the comments made by those of the female persuasion have been completely negative, considering me bankrupt of heath of mind, body, and spirit.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:47 AM

Have you studied the art of the feast; are you aware of its ancient origins?

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:45 AM

Have you studied the art of the feast; are you aware of its primordial origins?

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:45 AM

Have you studied the art of the feast. Are you aware of its primordial origins?

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:44 AM

Is is even remotely possible that you missed the point?

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:38 AM

You have never been to one of my feasts. Perhaps you've never been to this particular buffet - a very large space FILLED with families with kids eating and laughing. This is no hole in the wall; nothing against hole's in the wall - they are some of the best places to eat and be merry. In fact I suspect it is the posh restaurants that diminish the spirit and inhibit digestion. One can be rich emotionally, spiritually and socially without any food at all. But without food, one cannot live.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:36 AM

Every day is an opportunity for jubilation and gratitude. Is not every living day worth celebrating? I feast when the best food is abundantly available and graciously celebrate each day without fail.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:35 AM

Every day is an opportunity for jubilation and gratitude. Is not every living day worth celebrating? I feast when the best food is abundantly available and graciously celebrate each day.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:31 AM

Is not every day worth celebrating?

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:19 AM

Every day is an opportunity for jubilation and gratitude.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:10 AM

You have never been to one of my feasts. Perhaps you've never been to this particular buffet - filled with families with kids eating and laughing. This is no hole in the wall; nothing against hole's in the wall - they are some of the best places to eat and be merry. In fact I suspect it is the posh restaurants that diminish the spirit and inhibit digestion. One can be rich emotionally, spiritually and socially without any food at all. But without food, one cannot live.

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24538 · October 17, 2012 at 5:06 AM

I was under the impression that feasting was about savoring, socializing, celebrating, eating to satiety, not gluttony or forced feeding, I think you've perhaps missed the point. Overeating even healthy foods increases oxidative stress and lowers insulin sensitivity, I don't see how either would be health promoting.

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24538 · October 17, 2012 at 4:48 AM

I was under the impression that feasting was about savoring, socializing, celebrating, eating to satiety, not gluttony or forced feeding, I think you've perhaps missed the point.

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2944 · October 17, 2012 at 4:25 AM

Fair enough. Sounds like a good buffet! My other suggestion, derived from experience with one meal a day and broader scholarship etc, is that intake tends to correlate with palatability so starting with relatviely plain foods and gradually working up to the main events might also be fruitful. If you're not hungry though/eating at maitenance then naturally things will no taste as goods as they did. ('law of diminishing returns' etc)

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 4:24 AM

I chew very thoroughly so speed is not an issue. Starting out with saltier foods might help enhance the appetite. I'm thinking a dozen anchovies to start the meal.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 4:20 AM

I chew very thoroughly so speed is not an issue. I am thinking that starting out with saltier foods might help enhance the appetite. I'm thinking a dozen anchovies to start the meal.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 4:20 AM

I chew very thoroughly so speed is not an issue. I am thinking that starting out with saltier foods might help enhance the appetite. I'm thinking a dozem anchovies to start the meal.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 3:05 AM

This board is for people endeavoring to achieve optimal health. Feasting and Fasting are traditional, even biblical, guidelines for accomplishing just that.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:54 AM

Feasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for taking advantage of the good fortune of an abundance of nutritious food. On the other hand, fasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for coping with the absence of nutritious food. For instance if the only food available were beer and pizza, then fasting would be the optimal option.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:53 AM

Feasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for taking advantage of the good fortune of an abundance of nutritious food. Fasting is also a TRADITIONAL technique for coping with the absence of nutritious food. For instance if the only food available were beer and pizza, then fasting would be the optimal option.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:47 AM

Feasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for taking advantage of the good fortune of an abundance of nutritious food.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:33 AM

Who said binge?

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:25 AM

Please do foster your own personal growth rather than criticizing others' sincere efforts to progress. Also, thanks for your former suggestion - it stands on its own merit - but almost seems to contradict your latter (If I hadn't posted here, then you wouldn't have been able to help me as you did). Finally, I do not speak of binges, I speak of feasts. Perhaps a distinction can be made, even if it only be mine: a binge is MINDLESS emotional eating and includes foods that have no nutritional value; whereas a feast is the MINDFUL consumption of nutritious foods for the benefit of the body.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:22 AM

Please do foster your own personal growth rather than criticizing others' sincere efforts to progress. Also, thanks for your former suggestion - it stands on its own merit - but almost seems to contradict your latter (If I hadn't posted here, then you wouldn't have been able to help me as you did). Finally, I do not speak of binges, I speak of feasts. Perhaps a distinction can be made, even if it only be mine: a binge is MINDLESS emotional eating and includes foods that have no nutritional value; whereas a feast is the MINDFUL consumption of nutritional foods for the benefit of mind/body.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 12:51 AM

great idea, but this particular establishment is too much of a gem to risk earning disrepute

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:55 PM

perfect, thank you so much

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11683 · October 16, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Hiya zaitz. I was bulimic for over a decade. So I guess I come with a bias against bingeing. To each his own.

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Was expecting you. Took you so long?

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:43 PM

I was waiting for you. What took you so long?

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:41 PM

great idea, but this place is too much of a gem to risk earning disrepute.

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:37 PM

maybe a couple glasses of water an hour before

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:31 PM

I can't deny the supremeness of said institution, but it doesn't have unlimited crab, oysters, sashimi, mussels, and shrimp in all their mercury glory and goodness.

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452 · October 22, 2012 at 5:54 PM

I will try to answer as close to the intent of the question poster as possible. Perhaps some of my answer will not be what many here would recommend for usual eating circumstances, but I see this question as a very unusual eating circumstance, and will try to answer the question as posted:

I would say that since fat induces satiety, eat the leaner things first, so you do not get the satiety signals. Also, if possible, save your favorites for the end, so your mind will still want to eat more. Typically, I am a proponent of "eat your favorite things first", but for your particular question, I think saving your favorites might compliment your goals. Not that you want "filler" as any part of the meal, and I take from your question that you will be choosing the best of the best, I am guessing that even with the best of the best, everyone has favorites.

You will also be able to eat more since there will be such a variety of things. Although I can not cite specific studies, I do remember reading somewhere that the more tastes that are available, the larger quantity of food you are likely to eat.

I believe you will also be able to eat more (and likewise, stay significantly longer occupying a table without raising ire, and being able to linger over the food) if you bring a friend whose company you truly enjoy and can have entertaining conversation with during your meal. They do not necessarily have to know your goal of feasting, but I think sharing the experience of the feast with another person whose company you enjoy will significantly contribute to the experience, even if you are not able to eat the quantity of food you want, so you will still feel the experience was worthwhile.

On a side note, I am not convinced fasting beforehand is necessarily beneficial in this particular scenario. I personally find fasting decreases my stomach capacity, so you might find snacking here and there the morning/afternoon of your feast night (I am guessing it will be a dinner feast/) might help you with your feasting.

So my personal and unprofessional comments in summation:

  1. Snack the morning/afternoon of your feasting day (if it is a dinner feast)
  2. bring an enjoyable companion for company
  3. eat leaner, less calorie dense items first
  4. eat as much variety as possible, as you will enjoy/try/eat more
  5. save favorite items and calorie dense items for towards the end of your feast

Hope that helps, or at least provides a different point of view. I personally enjoyed your question and it got me thinking in ways that hadn't occurred to me, particularly the fasting/feasting.

It is also commendable that you are able to get so much wear out of a single pair of pants. Even with patching and sewing, just the fact that the fibers themselves are holding up is impressive.

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432 · October 22, 2012 at 6:28 PM

I think you're right about not fasting before a feast. I have heard horror stories of ruptured intestines due to eating too much after a long fast.

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5006 · October 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Skip the buffet and hit up the Brazilian Steakhouse!

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:31 PM

I can't deny the supremeness of said institution, but it doesn't have unlimited crab, oysters, sashimi, mussels, and shrimp in all their mercury glory and goodness.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Are there Argentinian steakhouses out there? Might they serve more offal?

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11683 · October 16, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Is this for real? I'm thinking "it's hard to swallow" is your body telling you to STOP EATING.

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:43 PM

I was waiting for you. What took you so long?

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Was expecting you. Took you so long?

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:33 AM

Who said binge?

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11683 · October 16, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Hiya zaitz. I was bulimic for over a decade. So I guess I come with a bias against bingeing. To each his own.

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10490 · October 22, 2012 at 9:00 PM

This isn't bingeing, Renee! This is something exactly like it except it's good, healthy, and Biblical!

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18635 · October 16, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Go for lunch and stay through dinner....they love that sorta thing.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 12:51 AM

great idea, but this particular establishment is too much of a gem to risk earning disrepute

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:41 PM

great idea, but this place is too much of a gem to risk earning disrepute.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 8:41 AM

I am a man of shorter stature and I am fighting back

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7275 · October 19, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Even if they notice too many people eating more than expected, they will have to raise their prices. This is why I personally hate all-you-can-eat places: as a 5'3" female, there's no way I can get close to my money's worth, because they price it for people who can eat a lot at once.

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11204 · October 19, 2012 at 5:40 PM

The seafood is probably the least processed and most expensive, so stop worrying about volume and go for quality.

If you really want to hurt yourself, you can train for massive eating overload by eating a big ass salad every day. A big ass salad will stretch your stomach everyday, but not give you very many calories. As far as I can tell this is lettuce's only true reason for existence. It was created in a lab by people in the diet industry who know handing desperate people a low calorie/high volume food is extremely evil, as well as lucrative. After about a month of hard training with big ass salads, your stomach will be very stretched. Then you can go to the buffet, and prove to yourself conclusively that the average American female knows absolutely nothing about losing weight. You will be able to eat massive amounts of food, though you want to go fast, because when your body notices there are that many real calories there instead of a big ass salad, it will try to make you catatonic for three days so that it can process it all. You'll probably need someone else to drive you home and change your diapers until the catatonic phase passes.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 7:42 AM

nor would i rent out the gut property to such refuse

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10490 · October 19, 2012 at 5:54 PM

I appreciate your humor in this post but I do not appreciate your disparaging remarks about lettuce. :)

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 7:41 AM

i wouldn't waste my hard-earned money on veg

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 8:39 AM

nor would i rent out my gut property to such refuse

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2029 · October 17, 2012 at 4:57 AM

I would think a buffet is probably not the best place for a feast. Sure, it makes some financial sense...I guess. But compared to traditional feasts, which were an opportunity for jubilant celebration and gratitude, a buffet doesn't seem to offer much. My two cents? Save a feast for when you can really reap the emotional, spiritual, social, etc. benefits.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:10 AM

You have never been to one of my feasts. Perhaps you've never been to this particular buffet - filled with families with kids eating and laughing. This is no hole in the wall; nothing against hole's in the wall - they are some of the best places to eat and be merry. In fact I suspect it is the posh restaurants that diminish the spirit and inhibit digestion. One can be rich emotionally, spiritually and socially without any food at all. But without food, one cannot live.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:31 AM

Is not every day worth celebrating?

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:19 AM

Every day is an opportunity for jubilation and gratitude.

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432 · October 18, 2012 at 8:51 AM

This place is filled with whole East Asian families piling their plates high. What do we know about their cultures? They value good food and close families.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:38 AM

You have never been to one of my feasts. Perhaps you've never been to this particular buffet - a very large space FILLED with families with kids eating and laughing. This is no hole in the wall; nothing against hole's in the wall - they are some of the best places to eat and be merry. In fact I suspect it is the posh restaurants that diminish the spirit and inhibit digestion. One can be rich emotionally, spiritually and socially without any food at all. But without food, one cannot live.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:36 AM

Every day is an opportunity for jubilation and gratitude. Is not every living day worth celebrating? I feast when the best food is abundantly available and graciously celebrate each day without fail.

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2029 · October 17, 2012 at 8:05 PM

This is probably correct. In my parts, a buffet is equivalent to the cheap Chinese kind or Furr's cafeteria. I've never been to one that had anything remotely similar to quality food. My family does go to a local buffet restaurant when getting together for Christmas (out of town family is extremely allergic to all our pets), but I don't look forward to the food. Just the people.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 5:35 AM

Every day is an opportunity for jubilation and gratitude. Is not every living day worth celebrating? I feast when the best food is abundantly available and graciously celebrate each day.

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2944 · October 17, 2012 at 4:12 AM

Have you looked at the Leangains approach where he eats a massive cheesecake etc? I recall he has a post about it... (here it is - http://www.leangains.com/2010/11/cheat-day-strategies-for-hedonist.html)

Due to fat taking longer to induce satiety relative to carbs it might help you to vary macro proportions as you go through the meal.

Varying tastes and textures (ie salty to sweet and back again for example) and just eating a bunch of different highgly palatable, energy dense foods ought to fit your goals too, as Mike T said.

Your appetite will also increase of course if you've done some sort of activity in the period prior. If you're having trouble swallowingthen that may be an indication of eating very quickly - are you mindful of the food going down/your pace of consumption?

edit- lemon juice is also an appetite stimulant. Certain combinations also go very well together, think salty and sweet salad dressings, salty and bitter (bacon and brussle sprouts, kale and salt etc), sour and sweet (lemon and sugar)bitter -sweet (chocolate!). Varying these over the course of the meal may be useful for you.

This guy's post might of interest too. http://www.chiefrok.com/blog/body-fitness-and-nutrition/introduction-to-feasting/

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 4:20 AM

I chew very thoroughly so speed is not an issue. I am thinking that starting out with saltier foods might help enhance the appetite. I'm thinking a dozen anchovies to start the meal.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 7:58 AM

I have to say that the chiefrok blog was worth my time, thank you. Funny as well.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 4:24 AM

I chew very thoroughly so speed is not an issue. Starting out with saltier foods might help enhance the appetite. I'm thinking a dozen anchovies to start the meal.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 4:20 AM

I chew very thoroughly so speed is not an issue. I am thinking that starting out with saltier foods might help enhance the appetite. I'm thinking a dozem anchovies to start the meal.

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2944 · October 17, 2012 at 4:25 AM

Fair enough. Sounds like a good buffet! My other suggestion, derived from experience with one meal a day and broader scholarship etc, is that intake tends to correlate with palatability so starting with relatviely plain foods and gradually working up to the main events might also be fruitful. If you're not hungry though/eating at maitenance then naturally things will no taste as goods as they did. ('law of diminishing returns' etc)

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9402 · October 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM

I think to prepare, fasting is good, but I think you want to drink a lot of water throughout the day to keep your stomach full/stretched.

I think variety (taste, texture) is the key when you hit the wall. On man versus food, the guy once had to eat a huge amount of ice cream. He hit a wall, but then ate some french fries, which allowed him to continue eating more ice cream. At some point, our brain gets overloaded by the same food and just says stop. Introducing something different can shut that off.

So if you've been eating a lot of chewy, juicy, steak and are hitting a wall, maybe try to throw in some bacon or something to mix it up. Maybe even go further and have a bit of something sweet (e.g., fruit).

Good luck. Pretty ballsy to ask this here. :)

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:55 PM

perfect, thank you so much

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2187 · October 23, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Evening Round-Up by Col William C Hunter, dated 1915:

The residents of Pompeii had fine plumbing, baths and luxuries. They had a place called a vomitorium. The old Roman sports were gluttons; they stuffed themselves, then went to the vomitorium and threw up so they could eat more.

While the vomitorium has been thoroughly dispelled as a myth the idea is still a good one. I would also suggest digestive enzymes starting the day before and plenty of fluids (coconut water) to help stretch your stomach out. Also, alcohol will dull your senses and allow you to gorge even further. I suggest starting off with something hard and keep drinking it straight till it doesn't taste bad anymore. Then you'll be ready.

Also found this: http://www.asylum.com/2010/01/28/how-to-win-a-competitive-eating-contest-training/

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100 · October 22, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Not sure this is entirely relevant to what you want to achieve, but:

http://natemiyaki.com/i-feast/

(intermittent feasting)

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649 · October 19, 2012 at 1:37 AM
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432 · October 19, 2012 at 1:07 PM

carbs disrupt my digestion

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432 · October 19, 2012 at 3:33 AM

carbs tend to disrupt my digestion, but "to each is own" as the hacks like to say.

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1173 · October 17, 2012 at 1:39 AM

I suggest reading about competitive eaters, not posting on a board where the majority of people are trying to stop bingeing.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:47 AM

Feasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for taking advantage of the good fortune of an abundance of nutritious food.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:25 AM

Please do foster your own personal growth rather than criticizing others' sincere efforts to progress. Also, thanks for your former suggestion - it stands on its own merit - but almost seems to contradict your latter (If I hadn't posted here, then you wouldn't have been able to help me as you did). Finally, I do not speak of binges, I speak of feasts. Perhaps a distinction can be made, even if it only be mine: a binge is MINDLESS emotional eating and includes foods that have no nutritional value; whereas a feast is the MINDFUL consumption of nutritious foods for the benefit of the body.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:54 AM

Feasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for taking advantage of the good fortune of an abundance of nutritious food. On the other hand, fasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for coping with the absence of nutritious food. For instance if the only food available were beer and pizza, then fasting would be the optimal option.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:22 AM

Please do foster your own personal growth rather than criticizing others' sincere efforts to progress. Also, thanks for your former suggestion - it stands on its own merit - but almost seems to contradict your latter (If I hadn't posted here, then you wouldn't have been able to help me as you did). Finally, I do not speak of binges, I speak of feasts. Perhaps a distinction can be made, even if it only be mine: a binge is MINDLESS emotional eating and includes foods that have no nutritional value; whereas a feast is the MINDFUL consumption of nutritional foods for the benefit of mind/body.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 2:53 AM

Feasting is a TRADITIONAL technique for taking advantage of the good fortune of an abundance of nutritious food. Fasting is also a TRADITIONAL technique for coping with the absence of nutritious food. For instance if the only food available were beer and pizza, then fasting would be the optimal option.

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432 · October 17, 2012 at 3:05 AM

This board is for people endeavoring to achieve optimal health. Feasting and Fasting are traditional, even biblical, guidelines for accomplishing just that.

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 6:47 AM

Did I implicate that I took the bible as anything other than literature?

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 6:46 AM

Did I indicate implicitly that I took the bible as anything other than literature?

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 6:48 AM

Did I implicate that I consider the bible as anything other than literature?

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10490 · October 19, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Why do you keep mentioning Biblical? Is that supposed to convince us that overeating will save our souls?

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432 · October 20, 2012 at 6:53 AM

Did I implicate that I consider the bible as anything other than literature allowing us a glimpse into the history of eating?

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432 · October 22, 2012 at 8:43 PM

@luckie: Are you a militant atheist? Following the religion of atheism? Attacking anything that resembles religious dogma even if it's actually harmless, or even beneficial, to society? Well, if you are, then cut it out. You give atheists a bad name. And being one myself, I find your active hatred to be repulsive.

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432 · October 22, 2012 at 8:53 PM

@luckie: Are you a "militant" atheist? Following some "religion" of atheism? Attacking anything that resembles religious dogma even if it's actually harmless, or even beneficial, to society? Well, if you are, then cut it out. You give atheists a bad name. And being one myself, I find your behavior repulsive. But I suppose I'm caught being intolerant of your type, so now I'm shown to be a hypocrite now, no? I suppose as much as you're sick of theists, I am sick of all of you - fanatic theists and militant atheists alike.

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432 · October 22, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Do take my advice; your act is stale.

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11557 · October 23, 2012 at 4:16 PM

^If you don't catch that's me making fun of provocation and you, well....

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10490 · October 22, 2012 at 9:08 PM

You sure do make a lot of assumptions, and jump straight to uber-serious ramblings real quick. Highly entertaining. Do continue!

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11557 · October 23, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Lolz for jumping right into a religious argument unprovoked in reaction to a one-off sarcastic statement. When that happens, I know you are just here for the sake of arguing and feeling superior.

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2328 · October 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

dont eat starch, drink as little as possible, fast 24+ hours/lift heavy before hitting it up.

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432 · October 16, 2012 at 11:37 PM

maybe a couple glasses of water an hour before

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26182 · November 19, 2012 at 2:33 PM

So I just saw this post on built lean, it might help you out: http://www.builtlean.com/2012/11/19/without-gaining-fat/

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2913 · October 19, 2012 at 4:53 PM

I think there is a difference between a feast and a full on gorging session and you're getting the two confused. But you want to know the best method to prevent gorging, from what I understand?

Something that tends to work for me is telling myself that (a) this isn't my last meal, ever and (b) there will be leftovers, unless you're actually at a buffet, but chances are you can go back and (c) it's just food, it's not an extra life in a video game. Yes, food is tasty, especially good food, but really, is taste the best feeling ever? I'm sure some people are convinced it is, but you might need to convince yourself it isn't.

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78422 · October 19, 2012 at 12:34 PM

focus on the bacon!

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